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xibit,
This speech was actually funny, I mean, what the heck?? How did that guy manage to keep a straight face while talking such psychotic nonsense... But what can you expect from Israel at this point? They've gone to new and unbelievable lows... And their attempts at rallying support for their rampage is really quite bad.

Do you support the Israel occupation? en>fr fr>en
By valkyrie
On Fri Aug 11, 2006 01:54 AM

POLL RESULTS: to date votes
Percent Votes Options
88% 10,000021 Yes, all the way Nuke u¬m
16% 6 No, I hope they leave soon
13% 5 No, I want their asses kicked out of
11% 4 Other
I of course voted no

Hey Corcs, glad to hear your family is safe and well

freza wrote:xibit,
This speech was actually funny, I mean, what the heck?? How did that guy manage to keep a straight face while talking such psychotic nonsense... But what can you expect from Israel at this point? They've gone to new and unbelievable lows... And their attempts at rallying support for their rampage is really quite bad.

yeah but u know this all was bound to happen sooner or later , its clearly mentioned in the Quran and Hadith.

the jews will take control over the world and the muslims will be like scum in a crapy state.

i might sound too far fetched but this war is not between lebenese or israel
but between the believers and the non believers, or is just the beginning of the real war.

the believers being the true Muslims, most probably arab christians , orthadox christians and some anglicans, with their leader as Prophet Jesus RA

and the unbelievers being the jews, hypocrite muslims and Christians with a western mentality (like those kind who don’t believe in god and are atheists or goths or some thing) and their leader as anti Christ or Dajaal as muslims would put it.

We all know the jews are waiting for their messiah to come, they first mistook Jesus as their messiah but he was not and was a prophet of god but the fact remains that this messiah is non other the antichrist or dajaal.


Hadith - Muslim #7015, Narrated An-Nawwas ibn Sam'an


It will at this very time that Allah will send Christ, son of Mary. He will descend at the white minaret on the eastern side of Damascus, wearing two garments lightly dyed with saffron and placing his hands on the wings of two Angels. When he lowers his head, there will fall beads of perspiration from his head, and when he raises it up, beads like pearls will scatter from it. Every non-believer who smells the odour of his body will die and his breath will reach as far as he is able to see. He will then search for him (Dajjal) until he catches hold of him at the gate of Ludd and kills him. Then a people whom Allah had protected will come to Jesus, son of Mary, and he will wipe their faces and inform them of their ranks in Paradise. It will be under such conditions that Allah will reveal to Jesus these words: I have brought forth from among My servants such people against whom none will be able to fight; you take these people safely to Tur, and then Allah will send Gog and Magog and they will swarm down from every slope. The first of them will pass the lake of Tiberias and drink out of it. And when the last of them passes, he will say: There was once water there.


This part prophet Muhammed PBUH says the JESUS RA will slay dajaal at a place called luddso many years ago

" He will then search for him (Dajjal) until he catches hold of him at the gate of Ludd and kills him"

we all know the new city of lod which is in isreal.
Lod is a city in the Center District of Israel. According to the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics (CBS), at the end of 2001 the city had a total population of 66,100.



Think about it, muslims here will know what I am talking about.

xibit

Well it might seem to some that this latest war against Lebanon is just the latest agression against Islam, but I think that it has to do with politics, regional control and economic loot more than anything. I think US/Israel and allies do a very bad but surprisingly successful job at propagating a "them against us" and a "they're a threat" type of mentality in their people. But that's just propaganda to hide their real intentions.

That Israel is now destroying its neighbor because it claims that its existence is at risk, is ridiculous, when it is clear that Lebanon's existence is at risk...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10396119

Interesting report in the news today.

freza wrote:xibit

I think US/Israel and allies do a very bad but surprisingly successful job at propagating a "them against us" and a "they're a threat" type of mentality in their people. But that's just propaganda to hide their real intentions.

Both sides have great propaganda machines running creating a "them against us" mentality ...... to the point where it might not be considered propaganda any more ... I mean think about it each side does pose a threat to the other don't they?

ajb wrote:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10396119

Interesting report in the news today.

ajb,

Indeed an interesting report. It reiterates what most of us already know, the Israelis planned this with the help of the US; they just needed an excuse...

ajb wrote:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10396119

Interesting report in the news today.

Something similar was in one of the local newspapers the other day too. An interesting analysis. Quite believable.

But after the outcome of this one month offensive, and what a small militia of men has done to Israel. The US and Israel will both have to rethink there strategies against Iran. You have to think of Iran as a hezbollah multiplied 1000 times ..

MaaaD wrote:But after the outcome of this one month offensive, and what a small militia of men has done to Israel. The US and Israel will both have to rethink there strategies against Iran. You have to think of Iran as a hezbollah multiplied 1000 times ..

Other than resisting total destruction what have they done to Israel?

The only result from this war I can see is that the links between Iran and Syria supplying Hezbollah have become more publicised and are laying the foundations for the US to invade.

Lets hope this can't be pushed through prior to Bush leaving office ... maybe someone with some sense will not pursue this course of action.

ajb wrote:
Other than resisting total destruction what have they done to Israel?

good questions ajb. Throughout the Arab Israeli conflict the Israeli army has been winning easily in every major armed combat. Hezbollah has proved to the Arabs first, and to the world that the Israeli army is not invincible anymore. It has also destroyed the moral of a nation that was built out of an army. You would need to understand how important the IDF is to Israel to know how devstating the death of 100 soldiers in the past month of conflict is to the Israeli people. I was watching the Israeli channel 2 today and they say the number of Israeli soldiers who have checked into mental institutions is 10 times the number of soldiers injured during the conflict.

Again, looking at this as an isolated event, i can see how many might see it as not such a huge win. But when looked at in the overall context of the past 50+ years of conflict, this was a win.

MaaaD wrote:

ajb wrote:
Other than resisting total destruction what have they done to Israel?

good questions ajb. Throughout the Arab Israeli conflict the Israeli army has been winning easily in every major armed combat. Hezbollah has proved to the Arabs first, and to the world that the Israeli army is not invincible anymore. It has also destroyed the moral of a nation that was built out of an army. You would need to understand how important the IDF is to Israel to know how devstating the death of 100 soldiers in the past month of conflict is to the Israeli people. I was watching the Israeli channel 2 today and they say the number of Israeli soldiers who have checked into mental institutions is 10 times the number of soldiers injured during the conflict.

Again, looking at this as an isolated event, i can see how many might see it as not such a huge win. But when looked at in the overall context of the past 50+ years of conflict, this was a win.

Thanks Maaad ... with a little history I can see why it would feel like a moral victory for Hezbollah. I would be cautious of saying they are no longer invincible as there is a difference between resisting and defeating. Either way hopefully it is a resistance which will bring stability to the region rather than more widespread violence.

just a thought watch it please

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RjnvQHW ... ed&search=