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This is remarkable story about a man who was sent to spy on muslim community in Switzerland, but instead converts to Islam and reveals his intentions and who his handlers were.


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-mole22may22,0,5675485.story?coll=la-home-headlines

wonder how reputable his claims are?

ajb wrote:wonder how reputable his claims are?

Well he has phone numbers, emails and names of his handlers and also dosens of classified materials. I think his claim is more than credible, other wise the Swiss wouldn't be this concerned.

What is so incompatible with being a Muslim and spying on radical Muslims? One man doing that in Canada helped authorities arrest 17 people planning terrorist attacks.

Lionheart wrote:

ajb wrote:wonder how reputable his claims are?

Well he has phone numbers, emails and names of his handlers and also dosens of classified materials. I think his claim is more than credible, other wise the Swiss wouldn't be this concerned.

and yet their claim that he just has a grudge could be just as credible right?

kanelli wrote:What is so incompatible with being a Muslim and spying on radical Muslims? One man doing that in Canada helped authorities arrest 17 people planning terrorist attacks.

I have read the Canadian so-called Shiekh who setup teenage boys and than framed them. I think Canadian authorities need to be more worried about the big bearded sheikh than the young guys they have in prison.

ajb wrote:

Lionheart wrote:

ajb wrote:wonder how reputable his claims are?

Well he has phone numbers, emails and names of his handlers and also dosens of classified materials. I think his claim is more than credible, other wise the Swiss wouldn't be this concerned.

and yet their claim that he just has a grudge could be just as credible right?

Nah, I think its more like he found Allah(SWT) and felt guilty about framing a man who has done no wrong. If anybody has grudge is they who are out to frame innocent man by any means necessary.

Kanelli here is link to the story of the shiekh who setup youths he preached holy war...


http://www.fathers.ca/rcmp_terrorist_set_up.htm

Mubin Shaikh, a prominent member of Toronto's Muslim community, identified himself to several media outlets as a paid police informant who was ordered to place himself a group of 17 people charged with plotting terrorist attacks in Ontario.

Galati alleged that the police didn't have a case against the accused, so they relied on an informant to "set everything up." "They have to fabricate it," he said. The use of informants is commonplace in police investigations, as they are often the only ones who can "penetrate the inner circle" of a suspected criminal group, said law professor Alan Young.

So, without seeing the results of the investigation, you are so sure that he framed these alleged terrorists? How can you and anyone be such experts when the court case isn't complete and the judge has not evaluated all the testimony? My point still stands that it is possible to be a Muslim and an informant on radical Muslim groups. It would be doing moderate Islam a favour to get rid of the radicals that give Islam a bad reputation.

Lionheart, I bet you believe that there are no Islamic terrorists in this world - it is all a big set-up.

kanelli wrote:So, without seeing the results of the investigation, you are so sure that he framed these alleged terrorists? How can you and anyone be such experts when the court case isn't complete and the judge has not evaluated all the testimony? My point still stands that it is possible to be a Muslim and an informant on radical Muslim groups. It would be doing moderate Islam a favour to get rid of the radicals that give Islam a bad reputation.

When they are put on trial and all the evidence against the boys are represent you will see that these boys were most likely setup. I say this because if this so-called SHeikh was soo concerned about the well being of Canadian citizens or if he thought these boys were threat was serious I'm pretty he would have gone to the authorities issued his concern without solicitation of payment. The other thing is this man radicalized the boys and then turn them over to the authoritice for money, you tell me why does someone need money to do good deeds. Nah, I think when the truth comes out the evidence against these boys will fall apart.

kanelli wrote:Lionheart, I bet you believe that there are no Islamic terrorists in this world - it is all a big set-up.

There are Isamic terrorist, the same way there are Christian Terrorist and Jewish terrorist..There are also thousands of muslims youth that are setup by fake shiekhs to do harm to innocent people. There thousands of spies muslim community and this is no secret, everybody knows this.