Interesting that you conveniently ignored by question about what you'd think if a tighter regime was implemented in Lebanon.
Surely the thought that Iran has a helping hand in all of this for their own agendas is not a good thing.
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ajb wrote:Not terrorists? I watched a doco the other day in which they were hijacking planes, taking hostages and blowing up buildings??
ajb wrote:It was about them hijacking a plane from Beirut and trying to land in another part of the ME (sorry can't remember exactly where) to force officials to talk about prisoner release deals but then the runways were blocked so they ended up having to fly to Italy to refuel. Eventually after several attempts to try and land where they wanted to they returned to Beirut where they loaded the cockpit with explosive and the cabin with grenades.
Unfortunately I didnt get to see the whole thing but I do remember them letting the women and children off the plane but they did throw one man out of the side of the plane on to the tarmac.
The doco was more on hijackings than Hezbollah but they were definitely mentioned ..... I think it was on the national geographic channel
ajb wrote:It was about them hijacking a plane from Beirut and trying to land in another part of the ME (sorry can't remember exactly where) to force officials to talk about prisoner release deals but then the runways were blocked so they ended up having to fly to Italy to refuel. Eventually after several attempts to try and land where they wanted to they returned to Beirut where they loaded the cockpit with explosive and the cabin with grenades.
Unfortunately I didnt get to see the whole thing but I do remember them letting the women and children off the plane but they did throw one man out of the side of the plane on to the tarmac.
The doco was more on hijackings than Hezbollah but they were definitely mentioned ..... I think it was on the national geographic channel
MaaaD wrote:ajb wrote:Not terrorists? I watched a doco the other day in which they were hijacking planes, taking hostages and blowing up buildings??
Hezbollah has always been very careful about avoiding the targetting of civilians, i am not sure what your documentary was about .. but for sure not hezbollah they have niver hijacked a plane, kidnapped civilans, or blow up a building. Actually the EU has not classified them as a terrorist organization although the US keeps pressuring them to do so.
mraph33 wrote:MaaaD wrote:ajb wrote:Not terrorists? I watched a doco the other day in which they were hijacking planes, taking hostages and blowing up buildings??
Hezbollah has always been very careful about avoiding the targetting of civilians, i am not sure what your documentary was about .. but for sure not hezbollah they have niver hijacked a plane, kidnapped civilans, or blow up a building. Actually the EU has not classified them as a terrorist organization although the US keeps pressuring them to do so.
I don't know about any hijackings, but they have been firing rockets into northern Israel for quite some time. It didn't start with this recent war. Certainly the rockets that they fire were not aimed at specific military targets.
mraph33 wrote:MaaaD wrote:ajb wrote:Not terrorists? I watched a doco the other day in which they were hijacking planes, taking hostages and blowing up buildings??
Hezbollah has always been very careful about avoiding the targetting of civilians, i am not sure what your documentary was about .. but for sure not hezbollah they have niver hijacked a plane, kidnapped civilans, or blow up a building. Actually the EU has not classified them as a terrorist organization although the US keeps pressuring them to do so.
I don't know about any hijackings, but they have been firing rockets into northern Israel for quite some time. It didn't start with this recent war. Certainly the rockets that they fire were not aimed at specific military targets.
freza wrote:ajb wrote:It was about them hijacking a plane from Beirut and trying to land in another part of the ME (sorry can't remember exactly where) to force officials to talk about prisoner release deals but then the runways were blocked so they ended up having to fly to Italy to refuel. Eventually after several attempts to try and land where they wanted to they returned to Beirut where they loaded the cockpit with explosive and the cabin with grenades.
Unfortunately I didnt get to see the whole thing but I do remember them letting the women and children off the plane but they did throw one man out of the side of the plane on to the tarmac.
The doco was more on hijackings than Hezbollah but they were definitely mentioned ..... I think it was on the national geographic channel
This was indeed an act of terrorism but it was NOT directly executed by Hezbollah, the group that carried this act was most likely an offspring of Hezbollah. It seems that you're trying to define an entire political and military group by scratching for motives to accuse Hezbollah of illegitamacy - these isolated incidents are not going to cut it.
Some people would argue that the US and UK marines that have committed rape and/or murder in Iraq are rogue elements that don't represent the entire US/UK marines or military. Would you agree with this? But then again, you classify all of Hezbollah's military arm as terrorists? Hhhhmmm.
mraph33 wrote:freza wrote:ajb wrote:It was about them hijacking a plane from Beirut and trying to land in another part of the ME (sorry can't remember exactly where) to force officials to talk about prisoner release deals but then the runways were blocked so they ended up having to fly to Italy to refuel. Eventually after several attempts to try and land where they wanted to they returned to Beirut where they loaded the cockpit with explosive and the cabin with grenades.
Unfortunately I didnt get to see the whole thing but I do remember them letting the women and children off the plane but they did throw one man out of the side of the plane on to the tarmac.
The doco was more on hijackings than Hezbollah but they were definitely mentioned ..... I think it was on the national geographic channel
This was indeed an act of terrorism but it was NOT directly executed by Hezbollah, the group that carried this act was most likely an offspring of Hezbollah. It seems that you're trying to define an entire political and military group by scratching for motives to accuse Hezbollah of illegitamacy - these isolated incidents are not going to cut it.
Some people would argue that the US and UK marines that have committed rape and/or murder in Iraq are rogue elements that don't represent the entire US/UK marines or military. Would you agree with this? But then again, you classify all of Hezbollah's military arm as terrorists? Hhhhmmm.
The question is if Hezbollah supported this action. The US Marine Corps don't support or tolerate marines who rape or pillage.
mraph33 wrote:The US Marine Corps don't support or tolerate marines who rape or pillage.
freza wrote:This was indeed an act of terrorism but it was NOT directly executed by Hezbollah, the group that carried this act was most likely an offspring of Hezbollah. It seems that you're trying to define an entire political and military group by scratching for motives to accuse Hezbollah of illegitamacy - these isolated incidents are not going to cut it.
Some people would argue that the US and UK marines that have committed rape and/or murder in Iraq are rogue elements that don't represent the entire US/UK marines or military. Would you agree with this? But then again, you classify all of Hezbollah's military arm as terrorists? Hhhhmmm.
It's interesting how you jump to call questionable Hezbollah actions "terrorism" but I don't see you doing the same with Israel. Taking entire villages and cities hostage (Gaza and West Bank); keeping them under fire and under threat, confining people to their homes sometimes for weeks on end, denying them health care, depriving them of their basic human rights...is NOT terrorism? Really??
freza wrote:mraph33 wrote:MaaaD wrote:ajb wrote:Not terrorists? I watched a doco the other day in which they were hijacking planes, taking hostages and blowing up buildings??
Hezbollah has always been very careful about avoiding the targetting of civilians, i am not sure what your documentary was about .. but for sure not hezbollah they have niver hijacked a plane, kidnapped civilans, or blow up a building. Actually the EU has not classified them as a terrorist organization although the US keeps pressuring them to do so.
I don't know about any hijackings, but they have been firing rockets into northern Israel for quite some time. It didn't start with this recent war. Certainly the rockets that they fire were not aimed at specific military targets.
Unfortunately Hezbollah lacks the precision weapons that Israel has. You know, like those super precise missiles that Israel "accidentally" struck at the clearly marked UN (UNTSO) post in Lebanon, several times...precision, yup.
mraph33 wrote:freza wrote:mraph33 wrote:MaaaD wrote:ajb wrote:Not terrorists? I watched a doco the other day in which they were hijacking planes, taking hostages and blowing up buildings??
Hezbollah has always been very careful about avoiding the targetting of civilians, i am not sure what your documentary was about .. but for sure not hezbollah they have niver hijacked a plane, kidnapped civilans, or blow up a building. Actually the EU has not classified them as a terrorist organization although the US keeps pressuring them to do so.
I don't know about any hijackings, but they have been firing rockets into northern Israel for quite some time. It didn't start with this recent war. Certainly the rockets that they fire were not aimed at specific military targets.
Unfortunately Hezbollah lacks the precision weapons that Israel has. You know, like those super precise missiles that Israel "accidentally" struck at the clearly marked UN (UNTSO) post in Lebanon, several times...precision, yup.
One has nothing to do with the other. I'm not defending Israel's actions. But its incorrect to state the Hezbollah doesn't target civilians.
freza wrote:mraph33
Your avatar makes me laugh. It is quite funny.
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