mraph33 wrote:I wonder how many non-violent campaigns have actually managed to bring about change. And also, what exactly is the purposed of it? Is it to try and change the attitude of the violent people, or is it to cause non-involved people to become intrested in the cause?
Any historians/sociologists out there?
For sure it would be an ideal world if people could just sit and discuss any problems rather than resorting to violence. That is one of the qualifications I will have for anyone who wants to live on my island.
exactly, ideal world. non-violence is the combination of a large number of things/conditions. u need to have good genes (it is a proven fact that the environment can only attenuate or intensify what one brings with himself at birth.), be raised in a peaceful environment and family where problems are solved by talking about them, instead of using force of any kind. without some education a verbal solution is almost out of the question, cos one would lack the substitute for a fist, that is the proper language.
u asked whether we have historians here. im not one, but ok lets talk about history for a sec. i know ur question referred to smthing else, but just take a minute and think what u have been told during history classes...history is the synonym for violence. every nation had/has some issues with another one and we take pride in some battles, revolutions, conquests that out ancestors had. and what did they do? they killed.
if an everyday person kills another one, we say he committed murder and put him in jail, his family is doomed, etc. if a big leader, vizier, pasha, king, etc. chopped of the heads of many in some battle and led his troops to victory, he became national hero.
ok, back to 2006, in TV one can see nothing but violence...where from would ppl learn to be peaceful? and one more thing, the instinct of killing is within each and everyone. if u think im wrong and u would never ever be able...do u have kids? or smbody u love more than urself? what if their life depended on u?
We know a lot more (?) than 1-2000 years ago, but we remained the same beasts...