Concord wrote:Lionheart,
You strike me as a passionate person but perhaps a bit too bias. Repeating the same mantra will not help your "cause". It comes as no surprise,I imagine,to many in this forum that there are both good and decent people as well as bad people in Lebanon, Israel, Europe, USA, etc. Likewise, there are radicals (on both extremes) in those countries as well. Regarless of what you think of the the people of USA, Israel, Europe, etc. not every single citizen thinks alike (for example over 150 million people in the US did not vote for Bush and 2/3 of the population disagree with him at the moment - but that is democracy).
The best way for things to be worked out is through dialogue and understanding (from personal relatioships to warfare) so spouting views and not listening to the other views won't help. Having said that thank god for the "democratic" dubaiforums where you are free to express your views but so are others. So you know, freedom of expression carries consequences (the concept of "freedom of expression" relates to govermental intervention or retribution and not private citizens).
Calling someone or group "Zionists"doesn't make them so any more than calling someone else or group "terrorists" doesn't make them so...
Anyway, I trust the situation will get better shortly and that everyone exerts their respective influences (including forum members - in whatever form) in a positive way towards lasting peace. Perhaps you need a bit more exposure to people of different races and religions to understand that mostly everyone wants peace.
You strike me as a passionate person but perhaps a bit too bias. Repeating the same mantra will not help your "cause". It comes as no surprise,I imagine,to many in this forum that there are both good and decent people as well as bad people in Lebanon, Israel, Europe, USA, etc. Likewise, there are radicals (on both extremes) in those countries as well. Regarless of what you think of the the people of USA, Israel, Europe, etc. not every single citizen thinks alike (for example over 150 million people in the US did not vote for Bush and 2/3 of the population disagree with him at the moment - but that is democracy).
Concord I don't think I'm less bias than you and other westerners in here, but anyway if you feel I'm bias maybe its because of what I see right know and what has taken place the last 100 years. Just take look at how most western media is justifying the bombings of civilians in Lebanon as self-defense by Isreal and condenming when Hizballah responds back by bombing Isrealis minimum damage as terrorist attack against Isreal. Bush and Blair called it as Isrealis right to defend themself. These are the same leaders who cryed about 9/11 and 7/7 as an act of terrorism, but know they justify an act of terrorism against innocent civilians. I ask you and other westerners how much is Arab/muslim life worth...if nothing than how could you ask me to stop being bias when I have been shown nothing but disregard for the life of people of Middle east by the West.
[qoute]The best way for things to be worked out is through dialogue and understanding (from personal relatioships to warfare) so spouting views and not listening to the other views won't help. Having said that thank god for the "democratic" dubaiforums where you are free to express your views but so are others. So you know, freedom of expression carries consequences (the concept of "freedom of expression" relates to govermental intervention or retribution and not private citizens).[/qoute]
Concord I have listened to others views, I have disagreed with some of them in democractic way and agreed with others. But that said others in here have not respected my right to express my views and them with others..in particular AKA Arniege who seems to ignore the cut&past done by others, but has a problem when I do it. I understand Arnieges need to flex his muscles like the Zoinist state, but I feel he could have come to me and me nicely to remove quates instead of deleting them without consulting with me.
[qoute]Calling someone or group "Zionists"doesn't make them so any more than calling someone else or group "terrorists" doesn't make them so...[/qoute]
Concord Isreal is Zoinist state the same way Germany during World War 2 were a Nazi State. Now I know that you consider any muslim fighting for his right as terrorist, but to me a terrorist is the terror Isrealis are committing against Lebanese civilians and terror the americans/British have brought to Iraq. I don't see any difference between what Al Qeada did in Sep 11, or what Train bus bombers did in London and what Americans/British are doing in Iraq and what Isrealis are doing to Lebanon and what they have been doing to Palastinians for the last 60 years. I'm sick and tired of having to explain the conduct of nutcases like Bin Laden and his crew just cause I happen to share religion with them, but American/British citizens don't have to explain the terrorism their government has brought to citizens in Afghanistan and Iraq...Isrealis don't have to explain how their state was established and the terrorism the Zoinist state has inflicted on its neighbors the last 60 years. Concord lets condenm all form of terrorism, lets not justify one form and condenm another form.
Concord
"The same way you bleed, the people of Middle east bleed"
"The same way you want your people to determine their future without foriegn interference, People in Mid east want that right with any interference from Western Powers"
"The same way people in Europe and States did not want to give part of their land to Jews they have committed crime against, Palastinians who have not wronged Jews did not want to give away the land of their forefathers"
"The same way you want peace, people in Mid east want peace"