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Jul 13, 2006
Corcovado wrote:everyday hundered and thousands of palestinians are being killed by Israel and the world stands still doing nothing about it. .....


kanelli wrote:Yeah, there are not hundreds and thousands of Palestinians killed every day by Israelis.

Not quite. I'm trying to find some numbers but I think it's something like a couple of thousand since the Intifada started.

arniegang wrote:did Hamas replace the PLO ??

Yes if you're talking about the PNA/PLC. They replaced Fatah (part of the PLO) as the majority party in elections January 2006. Mahmood Abbas is still PNA president though.

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Isreal could do what it wants, because Arabs are weak, greedy, lazy bums who can't even stand up to punch of Zoinist mutherF***ckers. Where is Saud Arabia, Emirates, Kuwaite, Baharian, Jordan, Egypt, in condemming this aggression by the Zoinist. Is it only up to Syria and none Arab Iranian to defend whatever dignity Arabs had left. Arabs don't even have the balls to shut the Oil to the west...to protest against this naked aggression against soveriegn nation. Wallahi this not only sicking, but also cowards by Arabs especially in gulf.
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sharewadi wrote:Not quite. I'm trying to find some numbers but I think it's something like a couple of thousand since the Intifada started.

Here's a couple of statistics

Middle East Policy Council
From Sept. 29, 2000 to July 12, 2006:
Israeli Dead: 1013
Palestinian Dead: 4058

Palestine Red Crescent Society says 4,053 Palestinian deaths for about the same period.

Works out to about 2 a day. More or less depending on whether you include Israelis.

And I've just seen that the MEPC gets its figures from the PRCS so they're not exactly independent sources :oops: .
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murphy wrote:did anybody else see that France have issued Israel with an ultimatum over its' attacks?


Unf. the big fat U.S of A have stuck their oar in and countered it already -
what 'cha gonna do?

Mind you, knowing a little about France' military history I don't know whether it is merely an empty threat......... (apologies to any Gallic readers)


where'd u see that? I know Russia and France condemned the attacks but didnt' read anything about any ultimatum



I was watching one of the news channels on satellite TV - they did not really elaborate though.


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Just wanted to make a post away from the arguments and wanted to say lets keep those in Palestine, Lebanon, and Mumbai in your prayers (to whatever god it is you pray to ;) )
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Corcovado wrote: .... ARABS ALL OVER THE WORLD WAKE UP .....


yeah right
like that gonna happen
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DaveDXB wrote:dont worry...just sing with me....

"Awimbawa awimbawa awimbawa....in the jungle..the mighty jungle...the lion sleeeeeps tonight......aweeeeeeeeeee wi wi wi wi wombambawaaaaay....

near the village....the peaceful village....the lion sleeeeps toniight.....
aweeeeeeeeeee wi wi wi wombambawaaaaaayyyyy"

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My dear, I think you've been out in the sun too long.

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Lionheart wrote:Isreal could do what it wants, because Arabs are weak, greedy, lazy bums who can't even stand up to punch of Zoinist mutherF***ckers. Where is Saud Arabia, Emirates, Kuwaite, Baharian, Jordan, Egypt, in condemming this aggression by the Zoinist. Is it only up to Syria and none Arab Iranian to defend whatever dignity Arabs had left. Arabs don't even have the balls to shut the Oil to the west...to protest against this naked aggression against soveriegn nation. Wallahi this not only sicking, but also cowards by Arabs especially in gulf.


i second that,

please dont blame the arab people but blame the frukin leaders, i am sure that if a war starts (and it will sooner or later) it will be the the general common muslim who will be on the front lines.
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please dont blame the arab people but blame the frukin leaders, i am sure that if a war starts (and it will sooner or later) it will be the the general common muslim who will be on the front lines.


this logic is messed up, its the people who are putting up with those leaders and they wouldnt be in power if it wasnt for the people accepting the status quo, so stop blaming the leaders.

This blame cycle has been a disease in the Middle East, where the people always blame there leaders, and the leaders are blaming israel for all the messed up shiat that happening in here.
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arniegang wrote:sorry to sound a thickie

did Hamas replace the PLO ??


Q: what is the PLO?????
A: nothin!!!!!!!
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arniegang wrote:sorry to sound a thickie

did Hamas replace the PLO ??


Q: what is the PLO?????
A: nothin!!!!!!!


MS i think arnie meant Fatah not PLO.

Arnie if thats what you meant, yes Hamas won the elections with a sweeping majority after the Palestinians were fed up by the corrupt, lazy, uneffective leadership of Fatah.
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great answer MaaaD.
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I hope no one is offended by this, but this conflict reminds me of the scene at the end of "The Rock" where General Hummel (Ed Harris) pulls his gun on one of his mercenary soldiers who turned against him, after which the other three soldiers in the room all pull their guns on each other. The situation didn't turn out well for anybody.
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SGMD1 wrote:I hope no one is offended by this, but this conflict reminds me of the scene at the end of "The Rock" where General Hummel (Ed Harris) pulls his gun on one of his mercenary soldiers who turned against him, after which the other three soldiers in the room all pull their guns on each other. The situation didn't turn out well for anybody.


you must be following the situation on FOX buddy.
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Arab countries are faggots ,they have no power what so ever to stop any aggression. Israeli do whatever they want.

No matter what , no one has courage to invade Pakistan like this , we know how to defend :0). We dont have oil but we are not faggot either .

Arabic countries shuld build or buy the atom bomb from Pakistan and stop living like a gay life.
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HP wrote:Arab countries are faggots ,they have no power what so ever to stop any aggression. Israeli do whatever they want.

No matter what , no one has courage to invade Pakistan like this , we know how to defend :0). We dont have oil but we are not faggot either .

Arabic countries shuld build or buy the atom bomb from Pakistan and stop living like a gay life.


geez...u must be in a very iluminated state of mind to write all this...
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HP wrote:Arab countries are faggots ,they have no power what so ever to stop any aggression. Israeli do whatever they want.

No matter what , no one has courage to invade Pakistan like this , we know how to defend :0). We dont have oil but we are not faggot either .

Arabic countries shuld build or buy the atom bomb from Pakistan and stop living like a gay life.


I totally disagree....

Pakistan's Nuclear tech is for defensive purposes and is not for sale. PERIOD

If the Arab nations want to be strong, they need to unite like the Jews are. Only then will the Arabs succeed.
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HP, first of all your language is unacceptable. Islam didn't teach us to distinguish between arabs and non-arabs.

Second, the arab countries have the power it takes to discipline Israel. Egypt alone has, let alone a combination of countries. It's not a matter of power, it is a matter of the leaders' choice and interest.

Choice & Interest: let's make sure we stay in power and make sure our children and childrens' children and childrens' childrens' children will inherit our power!!!!
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HP wrote:Arab countries are faggots ,they have no power what so ever to stop any aggression. Israeli do whatever they want.

No matter what , no one has courage to invade Pakistan like this , we know how to defend :0). We dont have oil but we are not faggot either .

Arabic countries shuld build or buy the atom bomb from Pakistan and stop living like a gay life.


geez...u must be in a very iluminated state of mind to write all this...


I am very pissed off on these arab states . So u better stay away :wink:
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If you mean leaders ..then me too man.

But I repeat, arab or non-arab has little to do with the situation. Remember, Salahuddin was not an arab!!
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HP wrote:
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HP wrote:Arab countries are faggots ,they have no power what so ever to stop any aggression. Israeli do whatever they want.

No matter what , no one has courage to invade Pakistan like this , we know how to defend :0). We dont have oil but we are not faggot either .

Arabic countries shuld build or buy the atom bomb from Pakistan and stop living like a gay life.

geez...u must be in a very iluminated state of mind to write all this...


I am very pissed off on these arab states . So u better stay away :wink:


u can be pissed on whomever u want HP, but what u just said is horrible. now here pretty much everybody knows ur specific sense of humor, so i doubt u meant what u wrote. but even so...the idea of an atomic bomb in itself is HORRIBLE. dont joke about it.
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MS wrote:If you mean leaders ..then me too man.

But I repeat, arab or non-arab has little to do with the situation. Remember, Salahuddin was not an arab!!


That happened in different time :). Its never gonna happen , not atleast in this life :0)
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You guys are reacting to a guy who would sell his mother and sister for the right price. Apu like his fellow Indian brothers worshipps money, he sees more dignity and honor in money than in Family. No offense Apu but from what I have observed from Indo/Pakis I have been around they are not people you want to back you up...they have no heart and corouge unlike the Afghans I have met.This is not meant to be rascist or anything insult, but its esperience with Indians and Pakistanese I have met.
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u can be pissed on whomever u want HP, but what u just said is horrible. now here pretty much everybody knows ur specific sense of humor, so i doubt u meant what u wrote. but even so...the idea itself is HORRIBLE. dont joke about it.


How come ?
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Well if you think about it, Lebanon doesnt really have any armed forces. All they have as leverage are Hezbollah guerellas. And how much can you expect from these guys other than firing minature rockets into Israel?
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I have friend who lived in England with Indians and Pakistanese...he always tells me how 5 indians/Pakistanese would be chased by one or two black guys. How the only time Indians/Pakistanese stood for themself is when they are 20 against 2, while Afghans, Turks, Somals, Arabs were never intimidated by anyone.
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Lionheart, please stop. There is no need for this kind of attack.

Don't make some people on this forum (without mentioning names) sit back and laugh at us.
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MS wrote:Lionheart, please stop. There is no need for this kind of attack.

Don't make some people on this forum (without mentioning names) sit back and laugh at us.



But its a the truth..Indians and their cousins Pakistanese lack corouge and heart..the their neighbors Afghans have.
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Lionheart wrote:I have friend who lived in England with Indians and Pakistanese...he always tells me how 5 indians/Pakistanese would be chased by one or two black guys. How the only time Indians/Pakistanese stood for themself is when they are 20 against 2, while Afghans, Turks, Somals, Arabs were never intimidated by anyone.


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Thats because we use our heads. :p
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