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Hi there,

I am actually looking how to get a job (banking, finance, project management, consulting) in the gulf region (UAE, BAHREIN, QATAR) and the agency mentioned above is asking me to pay a refundable fee of 95 CAD.
Can anybody tell me about the expreience they made with them?

Any help and advise is welcome

Hi Kareem,

There has been a load of sniping at these guys lately (including on this forum) which is puzzling cos I have had a good experience with them. If you think the fee is too high, check out Monster Resumes or the other so called online recruitment people here. Their fees are huge and they don't refund anything. Jobs in Dubai refund the fee after 6 months (and I know they do from personal experience) OK, you have to email and ask for it, but then that's to be expected.

A lot of people here don't understand how the online recruitment service works and think their CV is actually pumped out to all the companies here. Your resume is tagged for the key things you are offering and when an employer is looking, he specifies what he wants. If your qualifications fit the bill, then your CV pops up from the database.

Can assure you they are better than all the other services to get a job in Dubai! The old fashioned recruitment agencies are pretty useless and I have been on all their books for a long time without a single bite.

Give Jobs in Dubai a try. It will cost you nothing in the long run!

No legitimate recruiter should ever charge candidates...period!

Monster's fees are for professional resume prep. /writing only...they do not charge people for registering on their website and apply for jobs.

My guess is that you're a jobsindubai secret agent?

Sorry to disappoint you Acebravo, but no, I am not a Jobs in Dubai spy! I am however a very ardent reader of the media and also one of those anal types who goes through all the small print before signing anything...

If you have never applied for a job online, then you don't really know how the system works. The payment demanded by many online services (not just Jobs in Dubai) is to wean out the time wasters who subscribe to some of the sites with no real intention, but hope that something better will come along and just leave their resumes blocking up the servers for ever and a day. If you are seriously looking for a job, then you look at the advice the online service provider offers and follow the way they advise. Yeah, near enough they all charge for this resume service, they are in business not a charity for your benefit! Each country, each employer has a different way of doing things...but you don't know what they are. The recruitment people should do so they charge you a fee for formatting your information to best comply.

No, ordinary old fashioned recruitment agencies don't charge you for their services, but they DO charge their clients a hell of a lot of money for not doing a lot of work. 20% of your first years salary and you are the one that wrote the CV! All they do is throw a load of CV's at a client and hope one will stick. Some big companies now even have a programme that scans CV's and identifies key words, eliminating any that don't come up to scratch before they even start looking at individual cases. If your resume doesn't have the right number of keywords, then you don't even make it past the starting post! The chances at the end of the day of getting a job through either service system are pretty much the same.

Bayt and Monster don't charge to be on their service and, if you read stuff, you'd see that Jobs in Dubai don't charge people in the UAE to be on the service either. Don't get me wrong, if I personally feel that most recruitment companies are a waste of time, online and offline, but I do think that people should learn more about the way things work before they go gobbing off about good or bad.
For example:
I can't tell you if the traffic light timing system in Melbourne is efficient or not, because I don't know enough about it. If I found myself sitting at the lights for longer than expected, then am I right to plaster it all over a website saying that the city of Melbourne doesn't know how to run its traffic light system? When you have all the facts and all the information, then make a comment. Until then, leave it alone.

No I'm not disappointed as I wasn't serious about the spy thing anyway!

I don't care if the recruiter charges the employer....the employee shouldn't have to pay anything and that's the bottom line.

Bayt and Monster are hardly recruitment agencies, I only mentioned Monster for the resume service....try talking about the well known and well established ones like Clarendonparker for example?

I don't have to have the facts to talk about the obvious!

Quoted: "I don't care if the recruiter charges the employer....the employee shouldn't have to pay anything and that's the bottom line.

Bayt and Monster are hardly recruitment agencies, I only mentioned Monster for the resume service....try talking about the well known and well established ones like Clarendonparker for example?"



There are literally hundreds of recruitment agencies in the middle east now, the larger and more established ones are now starting to specialise in key areas such as banking, construction, marketing, administration etc. Some have remained very much more general, however their 'Modus Operandii' are all the same: Get a candidate on the books and pump their CV to a load of companies that might be hiring or might not. The number of advertised jobs where the job spec is already defined are really quite few as many large corporations tend to advertise and place personnel via their own HR departments these days.

A quick read of many jobs advertised in Gulf News or Khaleej Times shows that most of them are asking for stratospheric academic qualifications for jobs that, when some people get into them, are pretty menial. I know of a guy with a law degree and MBA from Karachi university...who made tea and swept the floor!

My whole point is that some recruitment agencies try to charge and some don't. Buyer beware. Ever heard of Haldane Associates from the US? They advertise for high level executive types and then try and sell them a high powered 'training' programme that enabled them to sell themselves in the job market at higher salary rates. For that, they expected candidates to fork out nearly US$ 8,000! They are still at it! No job offer or recruitment system is guaranteed so the best policy is to do all the research you can and then make a balanced decision.

Jobs in Dubai is the same as a lot of other recruitment agencies, I just don't see why everyone has got on their case. Is there a conspiracy out there? 7 Days has it in for Dubai Municipality and Etisalat, but do you think these organisations care what we think or write? I doubt it.

Call me a humanitarian.

**update**
www.jobsindubai.com is "FAKE" according to:

http://www.khaleejtimes.com/CityHome.as ... mber46.xml§ion=citytimes&col=

Luckily I got my money back..but I came across this and other articles..so if you've put money into this, get it refunded!..
-BlueShadez

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GETTING WISE TO THE TECHNO-SAVVY SCAM ON THE NET
BY SUSHIL KUTTY (Staff Reporter)

13 November 2004

Audrey and Arlette. The Fonseca-sisters. Now also the scam-busters. The two Internet-savvy siblings stumbled upon the 'Jobs In Dubai' web site and did not get carried away like so many others must have.


The small print didn't fool them. Neither did the plum jobs on offer, nor the big paychecks promised. The two read between the lines, and found the hidden note! This was not the road to riches or even to a well-paid job. This was taking the shortest route to making a dent in the bank account. This was fraud.

Born and brought up in Dubai, 28-year-old Audrey and 24-year-old Arlette now want residents of the UAE and the world around to be wary of this scam — "an on-line fraud using the name of Dubai and claiming to have a base in Dubai".

"They call themselves Jobs In Dubai (JID Network) and state thet they have been established since 1984 in Dubai, as a leading and reliable provider of professional specialists in the world of skilled and unskilled workers. Their key focus is manpower distribution to corporations in the UAE, Saudi, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman and Kuwait," Arlette tells the City Times.

But it was Audrey who got the first whiff. "I was looking to find some candidates for jobs in my company."

Audrey is office manager for the Lawand Group, and Arlette is sales and reservations executive with the Royal Caribbean and Celebrity Cruisers.

What she saw made Audrey take a second look — too good to be true. The jobs on offer were out of the here-and-now — in fact well beyond the there-and-then:

* Resumes would reach employers within 24 hours!

* Guaranteed job placement, or the money back!

* Assistance in visa and residence documentation.

"Candidates had to apply online, e-mail their resume or send a hard copy of the resume to a Canada address."

So far so good. What next? "The applications would be reviewed, and if selected, the candidate would be notified by phone or email that he/she has been 'shortlisted'. Apparently, they shortlist three candidates for every position available," says Audrey.

An application processing fee of $74 "payable by draft or money" is a pre-requisite.

Then, wait for an interview call from an employer. The candidate will have to "make arrangements for an interview at desired destination".

That sounded odd. But odder still, was the peremptory statement that the candidate would have to agree to shell out 50 per cent of the first month's salary as a fee for job placement. That is, if the process ever reached that stage!

"That struck me ...there was something wrong there. In the UAE, the law is pretty clear — recruitment agencies are not allowed to charge a single dirham from people who they get jobs," says Audrey.

"This Internet-based web site is excellent, with lots of information, professionally done adverts for job vacancies... However, on closer look we noted that salaries are higher than in the industry/market and in some cases substantially higher. That gave us enough reason to try and investigate," smiles Arlette, who was by then part of operation unearth-scam.

The investigations led to discoveries galore:

* All the 45 client employer list links found on http://www.jobsindubai.com/employerlist.html were found to be non-existent.

* Another giveaway: The links try to take you to the web site of the Abu Dhabi Chamber of Commerce & Industry (ADCCI) and a couple to www.uaemall.com!

* Only a postal address in Abu Dhabi was given — no contact numbers, physical address or anything else that will pass muster.

* Attempts to trace the postal address led to a brick wall.

* The webmaster link on the bottom took Arlette and Audrey to the homepage of the web-designer 'Marqsoft Systems', which was "nothing but a cleverly designed logo", no links whatsoever.

* The web site 'design' too had been provided by a 'company' with no web site. ("The only difference between this one and their webmaster is that this site opens to a flash design!" says Arlette.)

* The testimonials page had (almost) no company names mentioned, just names of people with designations. The only two company names mentioned were in the words of praise from the VP of Telecertix CRM Solutions. No search engine was able to find such a company name.

The sisters sought the help of a friend in Canada, who called the toll free number, which went on answer phone — at 09:35 in the morning, on a working day!

Next, Audrey and Arlette started asking around amongst friends and found that many people had paid ($74)-up and, of course, none of them were called for an interview. So the two of them put an on-line posting warning people about the site and the fraud being played on them. The answer was a spate of emails, from dozens of people who had become just that — victims of a fraud.

"They were asking us if we could assist in recovering their money. We can't but this shows how many people have been duped. One Association in Ghana told us that its members have paid up over $2000 and not a single one of them got even a call."

Dubai, says Audrey and Arlette, is making a name for itself on the global scene and other countries have started looking up to it. "A lot of people abroad are looking at being employed in Dubai and many of them are falling for scams like this one. I've found several people in Dubai itself who have paid the site. People who are not as Internet savvy or simply don't have the time to do their own investigations could easily get conned, given that the frauds(ters) have done their jobs really well. And that includes taking several paid adverts that direct you to their site. A search in Google for 'Dubai Jobs' will first show you this site," says Arlette.

"The fact that people may not recognise scams off the bat doesn't mean they are naive or stupid. It just means that they haven't been in an environment where this sort of stuff came their way before now and the scammers know this. This is not anything like the 'Nigerian scam' which most people would read into even the first time they saw it. This scam seems to have intelligent, techno-savvy bunch of people working on it," says Audrey.

But then, so are the Fonseca sisters — techno-savvy, and intelligent, with an enquiring mind to boot!

Oh these guys from JID are quite good at their work ....Fraud that is. They always manage to get into popular forums and put in some claims of getting jobs thru JID.

How many of you have seen their advert in Gulf News...full page advert..

To me it seems that they are growing from fake to real, i.e. they have the system and few companies actually sent them vacancies (I know of one)...assuming they are real...hence although most jobs are fake there was a small minority which was building of real jobs...now with this and similar adverts they may really get more business...and become more real

Of course their base is a lie....all that about being in Dubai since God knows when etc is rubbish....They first said they were in Abu Dhabi and only had a post box number. Then they claimed Safa Tower...after checking and re-checking and personally going there....nothing. All this for someone who had lost a big amount to them.

Now they say they are in some other building..if you can get proof that they are not in that building...contact the papers - GN And KT at least...esp GN who ran that advert of theirs. Anybody living near their newly claimed office Falcon Gallery Building...Satwa..Suite 308a. If they are there....I need to go in and tell them they have managed to congratulate their huge fraud...which is now becoming legal.

They used to claim on their website est in 1985 in Dubai!!! that text has now disappeared. These guys are reading all the things said about them and their fraud has become all the more perfect.


Anyway JID guys... they say if you can't beat them join them. I have been working on a business plan for a professional recruitment firm. Maybe we can work together...!!!! I haven't seen any of the loads of recruitment firm get so much publicity. Seriously you guys have survived inspite of being a fraud...you will do great when you clean-up.

I checked out Jobs in Dubai, so did my wife and another friend. We all applied for separate jobs and in no time we were all contacted saying we were shortlisted and to pay the fee.

Way too good to be true. Smelt of a scam, so I emailed them asking for them to outline their process and that I'd read some bad stuff online. They never outlined the process and wanted directions to the bad posts people had written about their organisation.

I didn't reply, I just feel they're a bit too fishy smelling. On the other hand, they must also be raking it in.

Yup they wanted direction to negative posts so they can post undercover about great experiences with themselves.

They are fraud, they are gona keep on lingering on the process and you wont hear from them for months.

Dubai Knights has a high reputation here. I wonder if the people such as audreygaur are possible competitors?

I'll tell you what. I will try JobsInDubai.com (It' only $39) and we will see what happens.

Right now I'm looking for a job and have heard good and bad rumors so I'll let myself be the test subject.

The point is, $39 dollars from hundreds or even thousands of people looking for work adds up to a pretty penny for Jobs in Dubai.

Jobs in Dubai is a scam, They only operate here in Canada because the law enforcment is weak. I paid their fees and never heard from them after, so i decided to drive my car to their OFFICE in Mississauga and check it out. here are the details:

-2 girls setting there in a very small room playing computer games wearing Tshirts and jeans.
-The room was so small, there was no space for visitors and i waited outside with my friend to talk to one of the RECRUITERS
-After that visit i decided to ask for a refund and sent the email to them.
-They responded with an email mentioning that their PROFESSIONAL TEAM in dubai is in the final stage of arranging jobs for me.....blah blah.
-I emailed them back saying that i insist on recieving my money and i was ready to take them to the small claims court if they say any more BS (BTW the court is located in mississauga as well)
-They did refunded my money (not sure because they are good guys or because i live in the same city where their office is located and it is very approachable for me to take them to the court) and that was the end of the story

To be honest this is the first time I have heard that the Jobsindubai.com website may actually be a complete sham (and, ambarrassingly, it hasn't crossed my mind before) - but the reality is that it is probably quite realisitic.... especially when their actions (or lack of actions) are taken into account.

(Note: this is my first ever post, I have just registered here to make this post - though I may stay for longer )

I applied for a job, possibly as long ago as two years - and there has never been any form of response.

Moreso:

I am at present exchanging emails with them (JID) to gain access to their "system" - which is just not happening, irrespective of the "file numbers" and psswords they continue to send out, in response to my emquiries.

If this is a sham the possibility of getting any money back is likely nill - but likewise I severly doubt I will ever get anything for what I did spend.




This brings up a very valid question, though - which I have tried to research multiple times but, so far, have failed to find a solution to;

HOW DO YOU GET A JOB IN DUBAI?????

Are there any job websites?
(If so, someone PLEASE list them!!! - and which are the best?)



THANK YOU

thank u all i 'm anil frm india . just now i had received a mail frm jobsindubai thank u all....

Thank you all,

I was about to make arrangements to pay the USD74 to jobsindubai.com, when a google search led me to this forum.

I thank you all for the post about this sham website.

-abdullah

any tell me that if some have work experinec degree from american universities so he can get the job in dubai and dubai govt. is accepting this life or work experince degree plz answer me

ashah91 wrote:any tell me that if some have work experinec degree from american universities so he can get the job in dubai and dubai govt. is accepting this life or work experince degree plz answer me

You will need a real degree, earned through years of hard work, study, testing and application. You will need it from a real institution, and it will need to be attested.

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LoL…………READ IT…………its funnnny! “Our sardarji was filling up an application form for a job. He promptly filled the columns titled NAME, AGE, and ADDRESS etc. Then he came to the column Salary Expected: He was not sure as to what to be filled there. After much thought he wrote :Yes

Priyak wrote:Does any one watched the movie “Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest” ??? If so how was it?

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kareem wrote:Hi there,

I am actually looking how to get a job (banking, finance, project management, consulting) in the gulf region (UAE, BAHREIN, QATAR) and the agency mentioned above is asking me to pay a refundable fee of 95 CAD.
Can anybody tell me about the expreience they made with them?

Any help and advise is welcome

i have registerd with JID freely, they asked me only passport copies nothing else and provided me the login details.

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