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Hi,
I was dating an english girl for 8 months
She very nice person and very lovely
We spend 5 days (at least) per week together
We do everything together and it was perfect
We was loving each other and everything was just amazing
I was trusting each other 100% and I never lied to her.
She was so perfect that I can give all my life to be with her
I did everything to make happy every second
3 weeks ago, she called me to say that she have to stop our lovestory cause she met an old friend and she have feelings for him. She said, I cheated on you and it's your fault cause you shouldn't trust women.
Why women are like this?????
I tried to understand, but I couldn't .
They cry all time when they date bad guys and the cheat when they have the good guy.
Most of women I met since i'm here are just fake and liars

Is it so complicated to find a normal girl in dubai?????

I could say white women are complicated but then i'd come off as a racist....in america, there are generally two classified types of girls, some that are more like "white girls" and some that are more like "black girls."(the spanish girls tend to be more like "black girls" and the asian ones fall in the spectrum in between) Some desi girls and arab girls fall in between as well . As far as friendship goes(platonic friendship as I am a girl etc) I have not been able to be close friends with alot of white muslimahs for that matter(the practicing non dating ones etc) because for some reason they have emotional issues of attachment, etc. But there are girls who are down to earth, for those type if you are muslim, you'd have to chugg the dating scene, ask your parents to find you a nice wife and not necessarily chase after white girls

u have a wired vision !!

I dont make any different between white, yello, green, gay, black,...women.

Women are just women.

wazabi ,



I thnk yu have a typo up there, not necessarily a weird vision, who better to ask than another woman bout women anyways. That is the biggest mistake that men make anyways, they regard all women the same. Hence, a well educated mannered man will treat his ill mannered, pampered, princess wife with respect, honor, and luxury, whereas a harsh and ill mannered man will treat his golden wife with patience, values, and selflessness harshly....

rather you men are ill judges of women and women are better judges of other women.

take or leave the advice but it holds true....

I'm well educated man,

when I love someone, I keep it my eyes

I never lie and never cheat

But, women prefer bad boys

wazabi ,

I think you really dont understand my posts, it was not about you about you but about how men generally do not understand women and should elicit the help of other women to understand women....my statement holds true ask your family to find you a wife and then cherish her. The whole dating relationship scene is flimsy. Why you are even saying cheating, you are cheating yoruself when you are dating and if you are muslim you are chating your rabb becasue He created for you a more worthy relationship such as marriage and you are cheating the foundations of that gift.


Listen to me, kid, you are 31 settle down with a good wife from your background, treat her with respect and not harshly and do not disregard her if she is not your western 'trophy.' In the end when she raises your kids on good values you'll benefit the most.



oh and my advice will go over your head unless you first learn the meaning of life which you gotta learn fast especially if you drive crazy like those dubai drivers.



women prefer bad boys turned good...that is a hidden secret.

Don't speak for me lonelyndubai. You are a Muslim and have different values.

I don't agree with arranged marriages. They usually leave the man feeling he's missed out on something. Speaking as a woman, there is no way I would have allowed myself to be married off to some man who couldn't find a wife on his own.

I prefer to make my own mistakes and have lots of fun making them.

BMreformed ,



hmm,


I dnt think I spoke for you, did I?(presumably not but if I have, I apologize). I spoke towards the gentleman who is appeased to run away from his traditons. Many such men do exist BMreformed and coming from the USA, I have seen many a white women(or other races) non muslim women abused, hurt, used, in so many ways. For many, I warned them to stay clear of supposed 'dissident' 'disenfranchsed' muslims or otherwise men who are looking for precisely the women who do not mind making mistakes along the way and having fun but some have been quite hurt and have hated muslims for this very reason. My values aer not quite different from conservative christians, jews, or hindus for that matter.

"Arranged" marriages are not the same in the conventional sense anymore. Just as time has changed so has the concept of "arranged" marriages. Among jews, they hve something called arranged dating. Among muslims, you have the opportunity to question potential prospects in front of the girls non marriagable kin or mahram with no strings attached and full right to reject a proposal. And for that matter there was a recent article in newsweek or some other newsletter or magazine describing how some non Muslim Americans have opted to get arranged marriage.

Your presumption that when a muslim man is asking his womenfolk to find a wife for him based on values that are indeed univesal: is she patient, preseverance, able to withhold ties of kinship, thinks selflessly rather than thinking about herself all the time(indeed in america you are taught more individualism than pluralism or community buildng), takes good care of herself, her health(does not smoke, drink, or do drugs, or go on excessive diet plans), able to get along with other folks is lame and makes him sound lame then I am sorry you cannot be more wrong.



The reason for the high divorce rate(is it 60% or more?) in the USof A is that the man is not able to see all these things in a potential women, even when they move in together and live together before marriage for several years. He does not observe her character or even chose he for her character, it is all about her looks, how much she bares, and other things.

It is after they have kids and she runs off to do what she wants to do(not necessarily but sometimes even cheat on her husband) instead of putting the needs of her kids before her needs is when he realizes he should have evaluated above mentioned qualities in her which do include honesty, integrity, loyalty instead of her sex appeal, abilty to flirt, or sponteous personality.

And offcourse not all women are this way but it is hard to tease out the ones that are not. A man gets what he wants but if he aims higher, he'll get better.

--- Mar 10, 2013 ---

wow the guy totally removed all his posts? hm......

When you said women prefer bad boys turned good, I took it that you were speaking for women and as I'm a woman I thought that applied to me.

In response to your explanation of arranged marriages, can I ask why so many Muslim men chase after women with the excuse that they don't connect with their wife or that she doesn't understand him?

If only relationships could be put in boxes as you describe, life would be so much simpler. In reality, life doesn't work like that.

Maybe this is why you are lonely in Dubai. Just sayin...

wazabi , It would seem like you are destined to fall for a particular kind of woman.

From your recent experience (as described by you above) my advice would be: enjoy the ride while it lasts, but be prepared for the fall.

As you can see, not every woman would like to be with a 'good guy'. That would be boring
In Dubai, you'll come across many fake people. Some like that too!

Jonkers ,

I know that .

Thanks

wazabi wrote:Jonkers ,

I know that .

Thanks

It takes two to tango. It is easier to blame the other than looking at your own role and where it comes from. You can change yourself maybe, but not anybody else.

wazabi wrote:nice person and very lovelyWe spend 5 days (at least) per week togetherWe do everything together and it was perfectWe was loving each other and everything was just amazingI was trusting each other 100% and I never lied to her.She was so perfect that I can give all my life to be with herI did everything to make happy every second3 weeks ago, she called me to say that she have to stop our lovestory cause she met an old friend and she have feelings for him. She said, I cheated on you and it's your fault cause you shouldn't trust women.Why women are like this?????I tried to understand, but I couldn't .They cry all time when they date bad guys and the cheat when they have the good guy.Most of women I met since i'm here are just fake

yes women play with your feeling , and to think you were ready to give your life to that twat!

she had you eating out of her hands , ( or tiger)

they are all the same to some extent, now that its went down like that, go get yourself tested for STDs.

If you want to live with women , numb out your emotions( its a left over byproduct from our animal cousins) and be an asshole, and HAVE FUN being one!!

--- Mar 12, 2013 ---

Jonkers , DUBAI = 3Fs , FAKE , FAIL and FUCKED

--- Mar 12, 2013 ---

BMreformed , you are not a woman , you are some crocodile hidding being a computer.

why muslim men chase other women ? thats easy! becaue muslim women are pathetic in bed!!! its like having sex with a corpse( not like i had sex with a corpse or anything) but they are not sexpierenced at all.

bossman ,

Thanks for your comments

bossman wrote:yes women play with your feeling , and to think you were ready to give your life to that twat!

Well, men are not supposed to have any feelings!! Maybe I was wrong?
I thought males are like 'drones', you know, the male bees in the hive that are just meant to fekk the queen bee, and then die.

--- Mar 12, 2013 ---

bossman wrote:Jonkers , DUBAI = 3Fs , FAKE , FAIL and FUCKED

I would agree with you there. Dubai is like an illusion created by the oil rich Arabs (as opposed to the poor sods who are Arab, but do not have any oil!!)

But why not? If the Simulators have created the whole Universe as an illusion , why begrudge the Arabs a little fun and games??
I always say, one should have an aim, an end point, for Dubai. When you have achieved that, or are achieving it, you will be happy and not disgruntled. Its not a place that you can call your own by any stretch of the imagination.

Jonkers ,

Man are supposed to be players and bad in feelings.

thats the first rule i missed.

Bossman is a virgin I would say and I'm not surprised at that.

Jonkers , the only feelings i have are anger, hunger , thirst , pain , horniness and being high/drunk. i feel some love/happiness for a good steak and cold beer and maybe an intelligent conversation with someone with half an uncooked brain.

fekk the queen bee and then die? i think the male bee are getting fekkedat the end lol not the queen.

The only game you can play to make you sucessful in Dubai , is a hit and run game. i played all the other games here legally you make something , but nothing spectacular.

--- Mar 13, 2013 ---

BMreformed , compared to you , even jenna jameson will look like a virgin

In dubai, money is everything.

U have the money, so you have the girl

In my point, I prefer to be alone, have the money and have good friends.

Behind every problem, there is a woman.

Who's Jenna Jamieson? Someone else you are lusting after?

Poor sad little Bossman.

wazabi wrote:Jonkers ,

Man are supposed to be players and bad in feelings.

thats the first rule i missed.

You are missing too many rules! You better start all over again

Women are always complicated. But have a re-check and see where you went wrong cos no one is perfect.

BMreformed , she is the top pornstar on the planet. maybe in the universe. Everybody knows her, even village idiots.

and why would you assume i lust after people like that? you assume things too much

or maybe it is because you cant come up with anything better/creative to say, so you start assuming things. what a jackass you are.

bossman wrote:BMreformed , she is the top pornstar on the planet. maybe in the universe. Everybody knows her, even village idiots.

and why would you assume i lust after people like that? you assume things too much

or maybe it is because you cant come up with anything better/creative to say, so you start assuming things. what a jackass you are.

I've never heard of her. p<3n isn't really my thing.

Everyone to his own, I guess.

I can honestly say I also never heard of her, Jenna Jameson. What makes her so famous? Any special tricks? Does she have a position named after her? Or the Jenna technique?

FlyingDutchman , NOWAY!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenna_Jameson

she is the queen of p<3n

but now she is aged and ugly, still a legend thou

BMreformed ,

we make things complicated for ourselves, the muslim men chase other women because their 'wives' were not chosen based on the above mentoned principles. Their mom or somebody picked out a girl based on how rich she was and vice versa for the picking of the groom.

Life can be simpler if we chose to make it that way.. and as far as my nickname goes, I can assure you it has nothing to do with what you are assuming but my lack thereof of a platonic social network of friends who are likeminded and of the same gender. Plus lack of activites in this las vegas of the middle east.

Then surely men shouldn't rely on their mothers to find them a wife and put a bit of effort in and go find themselves a wife based on what they want and not what their families want.

Most Muslim men I have come across lust after some other woman besides their wife.
Sorry if this offends but it's a fact. Obviously you won't recognise this with being a Muslim wife yourself.

lonelyndubai wrote:muslimahs for that matter(the practicing non dating ones etc) because for some reason they have emotional issues of attachment, etc. But there are girls who are down to earth, for those type if you are muslim, you'd have to chugg the dating scene, ask your parents to find you a nice wife

I cut out the "white" part on purpose because I don't want to make it about race. What I've seen is the one with religious muslim values are the best ones, they have a very high sense of loyalty to the marriage and spouse. But is not that easy to assess that before marriage at first glance, hence, there are lot of mismatched couples and the loyal one suffer. Same goes for a guy.

For converts they usually go to Imam, and non-converts, they usually do through parents or relative.

With the people I've come to know over the years and whose marriages were done through imam, one main issue I've noticed, where there were problems, that imam also goes for a nice talker guy. Nice talker I don't mean by nice-sweet guy, I mean a guy who is good at making connections and friends but may not be loyal to the values in a marriage. Imams are humans, assuming Imam is not shoddy, they suffer from same short comings of judgement, but when converts are taking that route they usually have high expectations and overlook that side.

With parent or a relative, at least it doesn't have the shoddy part, but depends on the parent or relative what they are looking for. Many parents these days, even they are not looking at the right things, they might also looking for somebody in a "trophy" sense for the family; or they might have bias for somebody they know who might not have the high sense of loyalty to the marriage relationship but they like that person for whatever reason. Latter is more common problem in such arrangements.

So it is not that easy as it sounds, even in an arranged way; but this world is like that, it is not fair or just for many. But I guess it can be improved.

In my case, the girls I sense who would be loyal to the marriage relationship are very difficult to approach and they don't trust easily, which is understandable. The girls that are approachable, well, I don't trust them with loyalty side.

lonelyndubai wrote:Hence, a well educated mannered man will treat his ill mannered, pampered, princess wife with respect, honor, and luxury, whereas a harsh and ill mannered man will treat his golden wife with patience, values, and selflessness harshly....

I see this a lot, sad really. I my opinion, these guys are stupid (but from my observation most are like that) they have little sense or intelligence; the woman who makes them miserable they treat her so well, on the other hand, woman who makes their life happy they don't even give her her due respect.

But this is not just related to marriages, I see this even in normal friendships with both men and women. Exploiters are treated much better than true and loyal ones.

Makes me think, true and loyal spouse and friends are a blessing, if a person can find them. Not easy to find though.

lonelyndubai wrote:The whole dating relationship scene is flimsy.

True, but many people go to these channels (I mean night clubs) these days because that's the only way they can find somebody, even if they don't like this route. Especially true for Dubai, people seem not interested or seems to have trust issues. Only people seem interested are the ones who are after your money. Abu Dhabi I heard is better than Dubai in this area.

lonelyndubai wrote:In the end when she raises your kids on good values you'll benefit the most.

Well said!

--- Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:45 pm ---

lonelyndubai wrote:the muslim men chase other women because their 'wives' were not chosen based on the above mentoned principles.

I'll add something to that from my observation -- it is not really related to "not chosen part," because it is not exactly like "not chosen" as it was in the past. Even with arranged match-making there is a choice. So two common reasons I observed:

(1) Men who chase other women (same goes for women) they do it anyways. Probably not the loyal types.
(2) Bad company and advisers. There are lot of people who seems to be friends but really all they do is try to ruin a good life of a person, persuading to have fun (in a wrong ways) etc... But the guy who takes up these wrong friends and their advises shows poor thinking and weakness in character.

Just my $0.02

How nice it would be live in that perfect world.