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I didn't want to derail another thread, so I will open a new one, commenting on a post of yours.

but what exactly should we call you guys with all the intolerant crap that you post?

Could you elaborate about I am intolerant of? Public beheadings? Lashes for the fornicators? Female circumcision? Imams calling the death of jews? Imams calling for the deaths of gays? Carving somebody's for-head because he is jewish? Discrimination of Ahmadi's in the Muslim world? Death threats and intimation against those that critizise Islam? 'Corporal punishments' of women? What?

The Jew haters have been banned, but the anti-Islamic propagandists remain - shouldn't you feel privileged?

There are still jew haters active on DF. Symm was banned for posting p0rn and nothing else. If a jew hater would be banned because of his antisemitic posts, no, I would not feel privileged. I donot believe banning is the solution for that. I have never called for any-one to be banned. I agree with banning Symm though because of the p0rn he posted.

Now just the fact that you bring up islamic law in defense of your tolerance is just another way to show your own intolerance and weakness!!. Can't you see that? I forgot counts for the numerous times you have been explained your misconceptions about islamic law. But it would never make any difference on your tought process, would it? That's what happens when you are in the orbit of your godless ego..

Why do you feel you are obliged to use every oppurtunity, to slander religion? Do you think we are kids to be fooled? You woun't even remember what you are told the day before let alone what you were told months ago to remember and reason..

You blamed Shaf for trolling and baiting, constant whining and nagging but do you realize that you are no different!!.

Have you ever thought why we cannot have any kind of decent conversation with you guys, somehow at some point it just breaks loose. In my mind we are adults and we can reason for the good and come to some kind of conclusion to settle in peace.. But we cannot.. Have you tought why? Perhaps you will do that if you leave your prejudice aside...I hope..

Berrin wrote:Now just the fact that you bring up islamic law

Exquise me...where did I bring up Islamic law? I am talking what's happening in countries with Muslim majorities, that donot seem to get much critizism from its citizens. Have you ever considered that if public executions wouldn't take place, people wouldn't complain about it so much Have you ever considered if there wasn't widespread homophobia in the Muslim world, people wouldn't complain about it that much
Besides, you are a hard-core anti-semite Berrin. You blame everything and anything on the West, Jews and Zionists. Grown men look at themselves. Little children whine, cry and point there pathetic little finger at others.

MO of the career whiners:
1. be nice, ask nicely
2. Whine
3. Nagg
4. Cry or shout
5. Threaten with possible violence.

Yup.

One of the previous times this came up, somebody is already deemed an anti-Islamist or anti-Muslim when s/he calls Muhammed an imposter or claims allah is not the same god of the OT and/or NT.

Flying Dutchman wrote:Errr, Berrin once posted a p0rn link with camel toes and very explicit pics.

Damn, I missed that one! You sly little minx Berrin

--- Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:17 pm ---

Flying Dutchman ,

I quite like General but it doesn't get many responses. It's like talking to yourself sometimes

Hardly anyone posts in Politics, it is the same 3 or so people having at it all the time.

Berrin ,

That's naughty Berrin. I'm surprised at you! That link is blocked from my work computer so it must be bad. What are you doing looking at stuff like that? I thought you always claimed the moral high ground?

Let's not forget that capiscum was actually herve when he was 'acting like a coward, the vilest kind' and hiding behind made up posters!



Cheers,

Shafique

Flying Dutchman wrote:Muslims amongst each other can do what they want IMO to a certain point, when it involves the persecution of other minorities (including non-believers), it's is a completely different story.

That's the way Europeans wanted it when they infested nationalism under identity conciousness into muslims,in order to form new nation states with new identities and borders. When they distroyed ottoman empire they should have thought about the consequences hence should have either executed or shifted all christians back to Europe.. Europeans prepared the grounds for secterian discrimination and hatred amongst the religious groups of MENA so I can only say that Christians belong to Europe and they should leave if they don't want to be troubled as minorities now... Just as the Europeans say Muslims belong to MENA and they should leave Europe... There you go.. that's the solution...done... anything you want more you should teach tolerans,kindness and unity to your christian fellas in Europe...cause under ottoman empire christians and jews enjoyed autonomy under their own laws and courts, there were living happier than they ever are under current Europe and MENA regimes..

Good grief Berrin!

Berrin wrote:When they distroyed ottoman empire they should have thought about the consequences hence should have either executed or shifted all christians back to Europe.

...

And this is why I said to Shaf that there IS an intolerance problem amongst some Muslims, because it is underlying attitudes like quoted above that can result in attacks on religious minority groups in the Muslim world.

come on FD , i dont care if you're a dutch or a deck , but if somebody raped your little blonde sister; what is the least punishment you'd wish to undertake ? thumps up to islamic law whrever being followed. thats why we don't really see much rape cases, although am not sure if any muslim country follow its own rules now, even afghanistan which you'd think the extemist doesnt.

No! They jail the woman instead!

kanelli wrote:And this is why I said to Shaf that there IS an intolerance problem amongst some Muslims,

Same as christians and jews kanelli, we are all humans cannot sit and watch muslim persucution and stay quiet and happy about it. Every demeaning of muslim rights and right to life have its inevitable, at some point irreversable damage in dignity and historic identity... There is only one way to construct that resentment into peace that's if christians and jews stand by peace and justice for muslims. Otherwise ofcourse extreme retoric will repeat itself and give a way for intolerance to breed in all of us,...not becouse we want to, but becouse of what we have been subjected to previously kanelli..

In history Muslim have never been hateful towards any identity or religious backgrounds, they were and are hospitable and welcoming citiziens of this world as this is what they are commanded by the will of their Master Allah, it's those without guidance on earth that keep spreading evilness and intolerans amongst Muslims... They surely know they will reap what they sow right..

Look at jew persecuation in Europe, returned Christian persecuation on christians of Europe and America (zionist Illuminati) which gave them a new state in ME as well while taking hostage Christian way of making politics and worldview up until now..

mesheditor wrote:come on FD , i dont care if you're a dutch or a deck , but if somebody raped your little blonde sister; what is the least punishment you'd wish to undertake ? thumps up to islamic law whrever being followed. thats why we don't really see much rape cases, although am not sure if any muslim country follow its own rules now, even afghanistan which you'd think the extemist doesnt.

My little BLOND sister? You creep! What is it with you people concerning whites and blonds? Why does the potential hair color of my sister need to be mentioned?

Flying Dutchman wrote:What is it with you people

There you go again, sounding very much like the Nazis who generalised about 'others'.





Show some lurve, and stop the fantasing.

Cheers,

Shafique

Im talking about people who seem to have an uncanny creepy fascination with blonds. Did you feel spoken to Shaf?

I'll tell you one thing shaf. Based on recent posts, if i would ever know you, Mesh or berrin were near, my daughter is not leaving the house.

What confused you about my post FD? Was it the suggestion you stop fantasing about other posters?

Chill man, chill.

Cheers,

Shafique

There seems to be several creepy fascinations and obsessions on DF.

shafique wrote:Was it the suggestion you stop fantasing about other posters?

You are also obsessed by blond men. Why else would you mention the hair colour of Brievik so many times?

I am creeped out by this obsession you have with imagined obsessions FD - chill man, Dutch dudes are usually laid back.

Cheers,

Shafique

This thread has gotten creepy!

You can always tell the level of frustration with 'Laurel and Hardy' by just counting the anti-Muslim posts and threads they start in an afternoon.. it always seem to spike when one/both of them are caught out in their creepy fantasies..

I mean, FD is even re-cycling old fantasies he's already been called out on:

DDS wrote:Now you've picked out this one word blonde and spun the entire topic around it, even ol shaf got caught up in it. BTW you should be sending out strong worded letters to almost all news networks aswell because very soon after the attacks they started reporting that the attacker was a "blonde white man"

You Sir, truly are the king of what about-ery and that is no joke.

dubai-politics-talk/double-bombings-oslo-two-dead-t46963-30.html

What was a joke what-aboutery argument then, is a pathetic excuse now. Creepy and silly!

Cheers,

Shafique

Oh you've quoted my little munchkin! That's sweet of you! He regularly pops in but is strangely quiet! It's a bit like stalking! You lot excel at that, don't you?

That's pretty rich coming from you BM

Ah DDS, the creep threatened me once. Creepy bunch indeed. And yes, it creeps me out when one of that bunch calls my sister `my little blonde sister´.

Why is FD's sister "blonde"?

Why is mentioning his supposed sister's hair color relevant to the apparent point made in the post and why was there the assumption that she was blonde in the first place?

Sorry, it's pretty weird from where I sit too.

There are definitely some creepy and spiteful individuals on here who look up people's real life off-forum info and even post it on the forum. They know who they are. Pathetic.

Does FD know mesheditor or is mutual friends with others who do?

kanelli wrote:That's pretty rich coming from you BM

And that's pretty rich coming from you too, when in another topic you're telling someone to get over a post about Jews being fried and fed to the dogs!

Get over yourself too, why don't ya?

--- Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:39 am ---

kanelli wrote:There are definitely some creepy and spiteful individuals on here who look up people's real life off-forum info and even post it on the forum. They know who they are. Pathetic.

Well there's Shafique's alter ego that appeared and posted my name, including surname, all over his posts He thought he was very clever indeed. He wasn't that clever though as I would say 75% of the people here know my name anyway. Shafique thought it was hugely funny and kept jumping in with stupid little comments too, to draw attention to it, just incase anybody missed it, LOL. Then there was that other poster who joined under my name. I welcomed him to the forum and then he just diappeared, that was a shame.
Shafique isn't the perfect English gentleman you think he is Kanelli.

--- Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:43 am ---

kanelli wrote:Does FD know mesheditor or is mutual friends with others who do?

I'd hazard a guess and say not. I think it was a stab in the dark that FD's sister, if he has one, is blonde. That's because it's a widely held belief that most Dutch people are blonde.
I don't think that mesheditor has been able to infiltrate FD's personal life.

--- Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:49 am ---

BTW Kanelli, it has been pointed out to me that my little munchkin probably isn't Pakistani and is probably a reincarnation of someone else who used to be on this forum. DDS once questioned why Bora was using Ian's avatar (I think it was ian, I could be wrong, it was ages ago). It was pointed out to me that DDS came to this forum months after that person left so how did he know that?
I asked DDS if he was someone else and he exited stage right and has hardly been seen since
Weird!

I bet he pops in for a chat soon

--- Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:52 am ---

shafique wrote:chill man, Dutch dudes are usually laid back.

Is that you getting down with the niggas Shafique?



It doesn't work for me. LOL