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shafique wrote:my point is well made

Thumbs up! Never cease a moment to grandios yourself.

event horizon is the only poster I know who condones these crimes

Great, find the post.

Repeating an unsubstantiated claim doesn't get you anywhere.

Just find where I condone the enslavement of civilians.

I can, of course, show your justification of that very act by early Muslims.

You're the only one who's condoned war crimes.

For civilains read terrorists.

--- Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:39 am ---

shafique wrote:As I said, you are no different from any other person justifying their bloodlust and justifying the cold blooded killing of a civilian.

I don't know any 'civilians' that blow up busses.

You would appear to be condoning terrorism here. Like you condoned the posting of p<3n by one of your friends.

Can a person sink any lower?

You can imagine what you like BM, but I don't condone any form of terrorism (or p0rn - where did you imagine that one!?? ) - but I'm not the one who celebrates the killing of people in cold blood. You do.

Yes - you do justify this blood lust by saying the persons killed 'deserved to die' were 'terrorists' etc - and in that you are no different from others who justify the killings in cold blood of others. Eh even justifies the killing of babies and women as 'acts of God' - as long as he believes God ordered the killers to kill.

Can any person sink lower than eh? Well, only if they actually carry out the crimes he refuses to condemn.

Cheers,

Shafique

Jesus! Do you never sleep?

By insisting that I condone the killing of civilians I can only imagine that you condone terrorism as I have only said that terrorists deserve to die.

I suggest you visit Specsavers, as they have a good 'two for one' offer. Your specs obviously need replacing.

You are justifying the killing of someone in cold blood. You consider him a terrorist.

You are no different from others who justify the killing of others in cold blood. They justify their killings too.

You have a weird logic if you think condemning a killing is to agree with terrorism - just because you are labelling the victim as a terrorist. Ludicrous. Terrorists should be prosecuted and punished - it is for exactly this principle that many people fought and died in wars against fascists.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique wrote:Eh even justifies the killing of babies and women as 'acts of God' - as long as he believes God ordered the killers to kill.

I have, where?

Does referring to anything else as an "act of God" mean I justify bridge collapses or lightning strikes?

shafique wrote:Eh even justifies the killing of babies and women as 'acts of God'

Chronic liars come to mind.

Btw, you didn't get around to telling me if you condone the mass murder and enslavement of the B. Qurayza tribe.

Yes, you condone war crimes or no, you condemn prophet Muhammad as a terrorist.

Your fantasies about me condoning war crimes are just that - made up fantasies.

Your justification for the killing of babies and the enslavement of virgins are in the thread 'Biblical War Crimes':
philosophy-dubai/biblical-war-crimes-t40711.html#p328317
(And yes, if the Bible said Israelites killed civilians by destroying a bridge and you said this was an act of God because God told them to destroy the bridge - that is exactly like your justification that the slaughter of babies and enslavement of virgins by Israelites is an act of God.)


Facts vs Fiction.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique wrote:You are justifying the killing of someone in cold blood. You consider him a terrorist.

You were not that vocal when OBL was eliminated. He was also a scum bag, like the Hamas terrorist, and yes the world is also a better place without OBL.

I actually agreed with Michael Moore who said he should have been tried - so I was consistent there as well. I would not have shed a tear if he was tried and executed, but I do not celebrate the killing in cold blood of an unarmed person.

See this thread:
dubai-politics-talk/should-bin-laden-have-been-tried-t47485.html

Cheers,

Shafique

Your fantasies about me condoning war crimes are just that - made up fantasies.

Another day, another lie.

I never claimed you condoned war crimes in my last post.

I asked you to state if you condone or condemn the war crimes carried out against the B. Qurayza tribe.

Your justification for the killing of babies and the enslavement of virgins are in the thread 'Biblical War Crimes':

Great, provide the post where I justify the killing of babies and enslavement.

Seriously, I'll await what you find.

Btw, do you condemn or condone the war crimes carried out against the B. Qurayza tribe?

(And yes, if the Bible said Israelites killed civilians by destroying a bridge and you said this was an act of God because God told them to destroy the bridge - that is exactly like your justification that the slaughter of babies and enslavement of virgins by Israelites is an act of God.)

Huh? Seriously? Did you not understand a simple explanation again?

Calling a bridge collapse an act of God doesn't mean someone supports bridge collapses.

I would say you couldn't possibly be this daft....but you are.

I have no problem in someone calling an accident an act of God.

However, most people would have a problem if someone called the slaughter of babies and enslavement of virgins by men as an 'act of god' and similar to an accident.

That's what makes you more extreme than Al Qaeda.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique wrote:Ludi-chris

He's a rapper.

So was Loon, who is now a Muslim. Interesting that, dontyathink?

But neither are French, are they?

Cheers,

Shafique

It's a pity the victims of terror aren't given a fair trial as you would a terrorist.

If we could go back to September 10th 2001 and know what was going to happen the next day, I would have stepped up and shot each and every one of those terrorists straight between the eyes and slept soundly in my bed that night knowing I'd saved thousands of wives/husbands/sons/daughters from losing a loved one.

Fair trial, my fat arse!

Why do you condone terrorism and the posting of p<3n on the internet? That's obscene!

shafique wrote:So was Loon, who is now a Muslim.

He is in Dutch jail now on drug charges, I think, I'll check.

BM - You are no different from those who kill 'potential terrorists' then, or those who celebrate the killings.

That's my point.

Flying Dutchman wrote:He is in Dutch jail now on drug charges, I think, I'll check.

FD - I think you need to double check.
philosophy-dubai/loon-wake-call-from-rap-sensation-islam-t48545.html

Cheers,
Shafique

Dutch speaking jail.

Huh? What's a 'Dutch speaking jail'?(My turn to be confused over what seems to be a joke?)

Loon was certainly a bad boy before converting to Islam in 2009.. so who knows, perhaps his former life is catching up with him??

Cheers,
Shafique

On November 22, 2011, he was arrested when he arrived in the Brussels Airport and sent to jail in Vorst. The Belgian Police said he will extradited to the US because of a crime he might have committed in the US before his conversion to Islam

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loon_(rapper)

The Brussels area is officialy bilingual: Frenck and Dutch.

Ah - ok. I see, I get it now.

Cheers,

Shafique

However, most people would have a problem if someone called the slaughter of babies and enslavement of virgins by men as an 'act of god' and similar to an accident.

This is coming from the genius who has referred to the slaughter of people in the Koran by allah and his minions as an act of God.



So your logic is that those who refer to something as an act of God justify the act.



Wow. You're so smart. That's probably why you can't find anyone who agrees with you that Palestine was a nation-state prior to 1948.

LOL - nice try at deflection eh.

But you're the one who is calling the slaughter of babies and women, and the enslavement of virgins an 'act of God' and no different from a collapsed bridge.

All because the Bible tells you the Israelites were told by God to slaughter the babies and enslave the women.

As I said, this makes you more extreme than Al Qaeda.

Cheers,

Shafique

shafique wrote:BM - You are no different from those who kill 'potential terrorists' then, or those who celebrate the killings.

That's my point.

What's your point sunshine?

Terrorists deserve to die. Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Why do you condone terrorism and pornography posted on the internet?

I made my point many posts ago.

I don't celebrate the killings of people in cold blood - and of the posters here who do, Muslims are in the minority.

You are no different from those who celebrate when people they consider to be 'potential terrorists' are killed. I have no problem with a trial and an execution, but I do have problems with cold blooded killings without due process.

(As also pointed out before, Muslims generally are less likely to condone violence:
dubai-politics-talk/poll-muslims-less-likely-justify-violence-t47068.html
)

Cheers,
Shafique

But you're the one who is calling the slaughter of babies and women, and the enslavement of virgins an 'act of God' and no different from a collapsed bridge.

So I support bridge collapses, is what you're saying?

You say that Israelites killing babies and women and enslaving virgins is an 'act of god' - because the Bible says God told them to kill and enslave.

I don't recall God asking anyone to kill using a Bridge - do you?

Cheers,

Shafique

But you're the one who is calling the slaughter of babies and women, and the enslavement of virgins an 'act of God' and no different from a collapsed bridge.

So I support bridge collapses, is what you're saying?

Classic!

Classic strawman.

Does the Dutch translation of the Bible have God ordering the killing of people using a Bridge?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique wrote:Classic strawman.

Lighten up beams of joy. That was epic!