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I have been getting a bit philosophical and pondering forgiveness and revenge.
Forgiveness is key to happiness.
But revenge is sweet.

Sigmund Freud said, "One must forgive one's enemies but not before they have been hanged."

Definitely revenge!

I just forgive if I'm too weak to take revenge!

Dillon wrote:Sigmund Freud said, "One must forgive one's enemies but not before they have been hanged."

I like it

-- Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:21 pm --

melika969 wrote:I just forgive if I'm too weak to take revenge!

Of course if revenge is not possible or pointless, theres no point eating yourself up over it and you are better off forgiving (as Jesus said )

I don't have a problem forgiving, but I never forget.

Revenge? Well that reminds me of a recent topic, 'Revenge, a Dish best Served Cold'.

Ooh yes, I remember it well...

Bethsmum wrote:I don't have a problem forgiving, but I never forget.

Revenge? Well that reminds me of a recent topic, 'Revenge, a Dish best Served Cold'.

Why was that the first thing I thought of ?!?!?!?!

Bora Bora wrote:

Bethsmum wrote:I don't have a problem forgiving, but I never forget.

Revenge? Well that reminds me of a recent topic, 'Revenge, a Dish best Served Cold'.

Why was that the first thing I thought of ?!?!?!?!

It's still a seeping wound, I guess!

hmmm, may be forgive sounds better to some, but
to me Revenge THEN forgive ... or may be forgive when i have the power to revenge...

I'd go with forgive, unless there were "tangible benefits" to be had being revengeful!!!
I'm a Scorpion though, so forgetting is out of the equation.

4give and 4get!

He who is seeking revenge, is digging 2 graves.

"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You" ~ Matthew 7:12

"Forgive to be forgiven, Annihilate to be annihilated" ~ Zubber

zubber wrote:"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You" ~ Matthew 7:12

"Forgive to be forgiven, Annihilate to be annihilated" ~ Zubber

Wow! A musser quoting the bible! Whateva next?

Forgive wherever possible, unfortunately their are those that don't deserve it.

Bethsmum wrote:

zubber wrote:"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You" ~ Matthew 7:12

"Forgive to be forgiven, Annihilate to be annihilated" ~ Zubber

Wow! A musser quoting the bible! Whateva next?

It requires an un-inebriated acute sense of observation to spot beneficial information anywhere

zubber wrote:

Bethsmum wrote:

zubber wrote:"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You" ~ Matthew 7:12

"Forgive to be forgiven, Annihilate to be annihilated" ~ Zubber

Wow! A musser quoting the bible! Whateva next?

It requires an un-inebriated acute sense of observation to spot beneficial information everywhere

Who's got that round here? You're not suggesting you have are you? LOOOOL! You spend your time trolling the internet for white women and tales from Britain! I'd rather be inebriated than a freak.

Sounds like a load of Cods-Wallop to me, lol

To forgive is a Divine exercise. Revenges often involve collateral victims and escalation of a situation.

sage & onion wrote:Sounds like a load of Cods-Wallop to me, lol

I wonder where that saying came from? It's odd! Cods wallop! I've heard it before, I must be having a slow day in the Town Hall.

-- Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:29 pm --

Kinos wrote:To forgive is a Divine exercise. Revenges often involve collateral victims and escalation of a situation.

Revenge is sweet tho'!

A load of codswallop

Meaning

Nonsense.

Origin

The origin of the term codswallop is unclear. The most widely quoted story has it that of Hiram Codd, an English soft drinks maker during the 1870s, who developed a technique for bottling lemonade. This process involved the insertion of a glass marble as a stopper into the neck of the bottle. When the bottle was shaken the resulting pressure from the fizzy pop forced the marble against the neck to form a seal.

The device was called, not unreasonably, the Codd Bottle.

Wallop is a slang term for beer, and beer drinkers would certainly be disdainful of bottled soft drinks. This slang term dates from around the early to mid 20th century. Eric Partridge, in A Dictionary of Slang, claims it as serviceman's slang and dates it from the 1930s. An early example of it in print comes in J[ohn] B[oynton] Priestley's Three men in new suits, 1945:

"It's drink... Booze or wollop... Nine times out of ten... you wake up in the morning... with the usual hangover."

It's not difficult to see how a soft drink in a Codd Bottle could have come to be called codswallop.

There's no actual evidence for that derivation though. In fact, such neat plausibility without evidence is often the mark of the linguistic mythology known as folk etymology. Look no further than these popular fallacies for confirmation of that.

The earliest known citation of the phrase in print is the script of a 1959 episode of the UK TV series 'Hancock's Half Hour'. The writers Galton and Simpson don't claim to have coined the phrase, which they say was in public circulation when the show was broadcast.

'A load of codswallop' sounds old and the Hiram Codd story has a certain appeal. The problem with the tale, apart from the lack of any supporting evidence, is the entirely implausible notion that the phrase was in popular circulation since 1870 but somehow didn't manage to get into print until 1959. That lack of printed record is despite the fact that an appeal for early citations that was made on national TV in the UK in 2006 failed to uncover any citations earlier than 1959. Also, if Mr. Codd's drink were the derivation we would expect to find early examples of the name in the form Codd's Wallop - but there aren't any such examples. That, along with the fact that the term 'wallop' itself wasn't associated with its 'drink/beer' meaning until well after Codd's death, makes the 'Codd's Wallop' derivation highly improbable.

The most likely explanation is that it is a made up nonsense word that just sounds right for its meaning.

Cod is a little-used slang word meaning 'to hoax or take a rise out of', known since at least 1873. It was used in much the same way we now use the verb 'to kid', as here in a quotation from 1884:

"Tha'st only coddin me as tha allus does; tha'l none tay me to see th' fair."

That could be the origin of the cod in 'codswallop', but that's just plausible speculation, which brings us back full circle.

"Tha'st only coddin me as tha allus does; tha'l none tay me to see th' fair."

Souns like a saying from a Yorkshire man!