Re: The Verdict.
Mar 03, 2011
[quote="viking-warrior"]
(1) Breach of Contract - failure to deliver One Stingray submarine in condition described in contract -
JUDGE ruled in summary judgement - Yes in favour of plaintiff
(2) Breach of Contract - failure to deliver One Discovery submarine in condition described in contract
- JUDGE ruled in summary judgement - Yes in favour of plaintiff
(8) Abuse of Process - in that Plaintiff (Dubai World, Nakheel, Palm Marine & Exomos) did unduly influence or cause the due process of law in Dubai to be used for some purpose other than that for which it specifically exists -
JURY ruled - NO in favour of Plaintiff, Dubai World [quote]
Ok, in the absence of any answer from anyone, "little Blue Orb" will assume the following:
No submarines have been sold or are in either private or commercial operation. A prototype (at least one) exists, and it has been or is undergoing sea trials which may or may not be concluded.
I don't see the need for the attacks from either Herve himself or his mate VW (who obviously has a massive grudge with Dubai World). I asked a sensible question, and have had no answer.
I'm prepared to accept that if DW were signing off payments to Seahorse Submarines, and had full knowledge that Herve was adding a mark up onto the bill, and there was total transparency, then it their own fault, and he shouldn't have any case to answer.
However, out of the 8 charges, they won 3, as quoted above from VW.
The most interesting, if you like, is number 8 - Abuse of process. They won this, and so how Herve can claim that the justice system here has been shown up to be corrupt is beyond me, because the US court says there was no abuse of process.
We probably all have stories to tell about the justice system / alleged corruption here. Me included - something whihc encroached into my life in a major way in the last six months, and caused a great deal of distress.
But that's how it is here. It's a developing country. 40 years ago people who now drive Landcruisers were riding camels, for God's sake.
It doesn't make it right, but it's a fact. the country (and many other arab countries) have a long way to go to get to the standards of "the West", and i think with the changes ringing out across the region now, the process is more than likely underway. But it's still going to take a bit more time.
Everyone who comes here, especially to Dubai, is coming here to make money, be it the Indian labourer, Phillipina secretary, British manager or French/American submarine builder. How Dubai is, is widely reported across the internet, and everyone coming here is aware of that - especially businessmen. In coming here, especially setting up a business working with locals, indeed, part of the government circle of companies, people should be aware that things are not done in the "normal" manner, as happens in the West, and should adapt accordingly.
I've been on this forum for a good time now, although i'm more of a lurker than a poster. But please have the courtesy to respect my opinions and my questioning when it is valid.
I've seen all the recent carry ons with various members, attacks, ganging up, arguments, insults, etc, and have purposely not even tried to get involved, as it's not my idea of fun on the net.
Just because i question things, doesn't make me wrong, and doesn't give anyone the right to start with insults, and try to belittle me with snide digs.
For the record, i do think that now (and i mean now, not previoiusly), this whole thing is about building the Book and Film up to be the source of revenue, and not the manufacture of subs. That's pretty evident to me. Good luck, Herve. And i really mean it. I have no axe to grind with you, so please keep your insults to yourself, and try to engage in conversation or discussion about this.
This is probably my longest post on here! And it took a while......