In conslucion all muslims have a lot of cultural issues in common. Which is a result of religion on their own country culture.
Nobody said they are all the same, but they are some basics which is the same for majority of them.
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desertdudeshj wrote:A lot of western democratic countries also have a lot of common issues which have a overwhelmingly majority Christian population. So shall we also associate high rate of homocide, rape, crime etc etc to Christianity ?
desertdudeshj wrote:A crime was commited and no matter to what degree it was abhorrent to say the least and the criminals should face justice
desertdudeshj wrote:Ofcourse its flawed, utterly ridiculas even. I just used your reasoning to connect crime and Christianity. My previous statement has absolutely no truth to it was just an example to show you your theory is flawed just as much. But it was sad to see the implied immediate finger pointing at "maybe the ones who does not have an identity of themselves and impose their presence to the host country" we all know who you were referring to there.
How bout countries with long serving dictators. Thats another commonality maybe that has something to do with it ? See where I am going with this.
A crime was commited and no matter to what degree it was abhorrent to say the least and the criminals should face justice but trying to make it into a muslim or cultral this is flawed and holds no water. Sorry to use the old stereotype but thats what phobes and loons do. That is anything happens in a Muslim majority region then its Islams fault by default.
desertdudeshj wrote:On you mean you don't like it when you get called on you fallacies, why didn't you say so.
Later amiga
melika969 wrote:desertdudeshj wrote:On you mean you don't like it when you get called on you fallacies, why didn't you say so.
Later amiga
No I meant exactly what I said. You lost the whole point. Interpreted my post in a different way, and I dont have any interest in explaining it for you.
melika969 wrote:shafique wrote:If there is indeed video footage of this crime (as described) then the 'bearded' rapist and other rapists should be captured and punished.
However, let's wait and see whether this is a real description of the crime or whether this is another Loon blogger fantasy. It would be truly sick if they made up these details to fuel their hatred of Islam and Muslims.
As the blogger is stating this description is based on video footage - we should at least be able to see some still footage (censored where necessary) which corroborates this horrific description.
If it turns out that this is just a fabrication - then the loons should bow their heads in shame and apologise to the reporter.
Cheers,
Shafique
So Shaf what you implying is, it was ok for the "breaded animals" to assault her, if they didnt rape her!?
So assaulting without rape is not giving muslims and Islam bad name?
shafique wrote:Mel - please leave the hate of Muslims to one side for long enough to re-read my posts.
I've condemned the assaults, but I am also condemning the cynical loon fantasies so graphically described - I'd expect you, as a woman, to condemn these apparent lies too.
Cheers,
Shafique
shafique wrote:Do you agree with those who are inventing details of rape etc that did not occur?
Is it not possible to condemn both those who carried out the criminal attack on Logan and the loons who are inventing stories about crimes that weren't committed? (My quoted post above is in response to new allegations which have so far not been shown to be the truth. I'm not the one that posted the new allegations of gang-rape, masturbation etc carried out by 'bearded attackers'.)
That said, if there is evidence that the crimes occured as described eh's post - then I'll gladly condemn the media for covering up these facts (for as I say, I've not seen any evidence that the description given is not just another Loon fantasy.)
I admit, I do not like it when fabricated stories are presented as fact by loons. If this is not the case here, I'll gladly apologise for doubting eh's post. I can't be fairer than that.
Cheers,
Shafique
shafique wrote:Who is supporting the crime?
I'm condemning the lies about crimes not committed AND condemning the crime.
Cheers,
Shafique
shafique wrote:Both sicken me.
Which do you condemn more?
Cheers,
Shafique
shafique wrote:Fair enough. As I said, both sicken me.
I do care that the crime is being abused by loons. I recognise that others may be more lenient on the spreading of lies.
Cheers,
Shafique
event horizon wrote:shafique wrote:Fair enough. As I said, both sicken me.
I do care that the crime is being abused by loons. I recognise that others may be more lenient on the spreading of lies.
Cheers,
Shafique
1) I agree with you on spreading lies
2) It hasn't been determined that anyone has lied - the issue has been covered up by CBS for obvious reasons - CBS has neither confirmed nor denied Lara was raped, but that she was 'sexually assaulted'
3) I can't help but wonder if the last three pages of posts where you make a bigger fuss about your belief that a report was a lie (something that you haven't proven but keep repeating like a broken record) says more about yourself than it does about the people you claim are liars
4) Who has the past history of being caught up in lies and then trying to cover those lies up by claiming they the lies were never told (!) ?
However, another purported video that was described by a controversial YouTube video claims that a bearded man ripped the top off the reporter and began slapping her face and breasts. He then pinned her to the ground, and by this time she stopped resisting, apparently accepting the fact that she was overpowered. The bearded man then removed her pants and masturbated in front of her before raping her. He also reportedly clawed at her breasts with his hands. The YouTube video claims that at least six men raped her vaginally, and a number of men also raped her anally as well. She was reportedly masturbated on and urinated on by some men as well according to the YouTube video claims which was supposed to be pieced together from information and videos posted on Arab Websites and other sources.