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From what I have told you so far, you must have the idea that Israel is a Marxist (socialist/communist) country. This would be correct. But, Israel has three faces: Communism, Fascism and democracy. The Ashkenazi Jews who migrated to Israel from Russia brought with them the ideology of socialism/communism and have put into practice much of that ideology. The Ashkenazi Jews who migrated to Israel from Germany, while sympathetic to communism and support it, tend to favor the practices of Nazi-style fascism. During World War II, in Germany these elite Zionist Ashkenazi Jews worked closely with Hitler’s Gestapo in persecuting the lower class German Jews and delivering them to concentration camps.
Now living in Israel, these elite Zionist Jews, who were well trained in Nazi-style fascism and favor it, have imposed many facets of fascism on Israel. To give the impression that Israel is a democracy, members of the Knesset (Israel Congress) are elected — an odd type of election. This is where Israel’s so-called democracy stops. It doesn’t make any difference which party wins an election, the LIKUD or LABOR, the elite Zionist Jews rule in a dictatorial manner — giving favors to the elite clique and brutally suppressing any dissent.
shafique wrote:I have no problem in acknowledging and denouncing all terrorist acts committed by Hamas. I denounced the terrorist acts committed by Irgun (such as blowing up the King David hotel and booby trapping British soldiers and the heinous Deir Yassin massacre).
But it should be made clear that neither Hamas nor the Palestinian government in Gaza denies the Nazi Holocaust. The Holocaust was not only a crime against humanity but one of the most abhorrent crimes in modern history. We condemn it as we condemn every abuse of humanity and all forms of discrimination on the basis of religion, race, gender or nationality.
herve wrote:So, when a hamas leader says something he should not have said it is a snippet, and when they say something they should say it is the truth.
You are the one trying to spin around facts and truth, do you actually beleive you convince anyone?
It is all too obvious that you are siding with hamas, a terrorist organization.
desertdudeshj wrote: Hate to get into this discussion and bugger it, but herve its seems your siding with the terrorist organisation the Irgun then, and we follow the same logic then at one point in time majority of Israel's population too was siding with the terrorists when it elected one of Irgun leaders as the prime minister of Israel and I think even the Irish are done for in this case with their support for the IRA afterall the A stands for Army in IRA you know.
Just sayin ?
When discussing issues related to Islam, muslims, islamic countries, you should put forward first that you are a muslim, and not that you are a britt because it is misleading, to make yourself more beleivable, and you know that.
desertdudeshj wrote:Maybe you should change your name to Harris or maybe even Lester. Then you might get more credibilty
shafique wrote:I think we are getting to the root of your prejudices herve - you appear to hate everyone with a foreign sounding name.
Again, what you think I am, is as relevant in this thread as your views about former Israeli terrorists. (I said this in the last post - you should read more carefully what's written, my son)
Hamas' views on the Holocaust are given in the OP - and any spin to the contrary needs to be carefully examined. You've failed so far to do this.
(At least with you it is easy to spot when you've run out of arguments - you launch personal insults, wild generalisations and then go quiet for a few days )
Cheers,
Shafique
Changing your name to something English sounding doesn't change who you are, and that is a foreigner who has been able to secure himself a British passport. You will never be a true Brit.
Shaf, seeing as you were having a go at Herve on this topic, I replied to it.
But it should be made clear that neither Hamas nor the Palestinian government in Gaza denies the Nazi Holocaust. The Holocaust was not only a crime against humanity but one of the most abhorrent crimes in modern history. We condemn it as we condemn every abuse of humanity and all forms of discrimination on the basis of religion, race, gender or nationality.