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kanelli wrote:How about letting women go and not keeping them as slaves? Why was it unavoidable?
kanelli wrote:There must be evil, so it simply a case of the lesser of the evils then?
Icenic wrote:Well yes, in a time where morality was almost non-existent, lessening the evil would be the start, leading to an eventual banning of it completely.
zubber wrote:... fyi - men and women are equal in every respect ( beside's our anatomy and physiology)
melika969 wrote:zubber wrote:... fyi - men and women are equal in every respect ( beside's our anatomy and physiology)
In Islam?!!!
zubber wrote:But to put it plainly, in the site of "GOD" , men and women are both judged within the same framework of deed and faith.
zubber wrote:The nitty gritty which you want to point out are actually differences in regards to application of the law, justification of which is purely situational based.
zubber wrote:And as kanelli shrewdly pointed out, gender related discrepancies are a common phenomenon in all faiths.
melika969 wrote:Says who? you? or God told you himself?
Besides, if the rules and laws on the earth didnt treat them equally, why they should be judged in an equal way? Your God should do sth in favor of women!
The nitty gritty you are talking about, are realities and suffering for women in Islamic countries.
So??? we should accpet it becuase it is common in all religions?! what a justification for Islam!
kanelli wrote:I do get confused about what is cultural and what is religious and the mixing of the two according to interpretation...
symmetric wrote:A women can never be a king, nor the man can be a queen
(Verse number 1, Sym's holy book)
Chocoholic wrote:symmetric wrote:A women can never be a king, nor the man can be a queen
(Verse number 1, Sym's holy book)
I beg to differ, there are many male 'queens'!
melika969 wrote:I studied about it K, and as you know I m living in an Islamic counrty. Most of it is religous, not cultural.
Zubber, sorry I dont believe in your scriptures!
symmetric wrote:I think it's too obvious that all religions have set of rules that some women don't seem to appreciate.
Adam came first, thus first come first served
zubber wrote:melika969 wrote:I studied about it K, and as you know I m living in an Islamic counrty. Most of it is religous, not cultural.
You are mistaken, it is quite the opposite
zubber wrote:The problem lies in the fact that there are many self proclaimed quasi scholars of any given faith, making bold yet completely baseless arguments for or against any specific religion
melika969 wrote:No, you are mistaken! Religious rules are quite clear, and they are very different from cultures. at least from persian culture!
Nopes, not true. I dont need any scholars review, I can bring up anti women verses from Quran itself! No biased interpretation is needed here.
zubber wrote:Persian culture ? I am referring to the culture in the middle east, what is being practiced is culture and nothing related to religion, what part of the world are you talking about exactly ?
zubber wrote:Yeps , very true, YOu claimed you have "studied" it , Then you obviously realized , the verses are supported by supplementary material before a conclusion is drawn, and their are established rules of interpretation, Your Ideas are of your own creation, state that clearly , and has nothing to do with exegesis of the text
melika969 wrote:LOL. at least use google before showing your "wisdom"! Middle East, Iran, Persian... sounds familiar?
and those supplementary material are provided by who? There are tons of them!
Which do you accept? The ones you like more?! Why should we accept it? and are they contradicting Quran?
zubber wrote:Clearly you are unaware of the fundamentals of the interpretation of the text.
And your "study" was inadequate, but not to worry, a thorough unbiased revision would be a good place to start. Good luck
melika969 wrote:zubber wrote:Clearly you are unaware of the fundamentals of the interpretation of the text.
And your "study" was inadequate, but not to worry, a thorough unbiased revision would be a good place to start. Good luck
yea right!!!
Dear, first you need to educate yourself about countries in middle east, then you can comment on their cultures.
Lesson 1: Iran is in middle east!
zubber wrote:haha
Lesson 2 - They are shia , with a completely different government and a starkly different society