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What “Scholar” Robert Spencer Will Never Tell You
“Police Blotter Scholar” Robert Spencer, of course, was all over the arrest of the Somali-American man in Oregon as another piece of evidence that Islam is really violent and it only inspires violence and “jihad.” But, like I said before, there are very important things he won’t tell you.

In this latest episode, Spencer did not (and will probably never) tell you that the FBI was tipped off to the young Somali-American by his own father:

However, a prominent member of the Somali community in Portland (estimated to number 8,000) says a relative played some role in helping to put the FBI on the young man’s trail — though that relative was almost certainly unaware of the scale it would assume. “Before this happened, the father informed Homeland Security and the FBI that something was going on with his son,” claims Isgow Mohamed, executive director of the Northwest Somali Community Organization, who says he knows Mohamud’s family well and had been in touch with them.

In fact, Adam Serwer at the American Prospect elucidates how many terrorist plots have been foiled with the help of the Muslim community:

October 2001: The conviction of “Portland 7” case was substantially helped after a local police officer encountered the suspects engaged in target practice. The police officer had been sent to the area after a local citizen notified police that he heard gunfire.

September 2002:Members of the “Lackawanna 6” are arrested. FBI first becomes aware of their activities in June 2001 when a local Muslim community member tips off the FBI.

March 2002: FBI become aware of a possible terror plot by Imran Mandhai (and later Shueyb Jokhan) after they are notified by an American Muslim named “Saif Allah” who attended Mandhai and Jokhan’s same mosque provides a tip.

June 2003: FBI receive two tips from community members notifying them “military-style training” was being conducted suspect by Ali Al-Tamimi. The tip set in motion an
investigation later leading to the arrest of the so-called “Paintball 11” in Northern Virginia.

August 2004: James Elshafay and Shahwar Matin Sirajare arrested largely based on the controversial use of an informant in the investigation. However, NYPD were first notified of Siraj after a Muslim community member anonymously notifies New York police about consistently troubling rhetoric coming from the suspect.

February 2006: Muslim community members in Ohio provide information helping to arrest and eventually convict 3 suspects planning attacks in Iraq.

July 2009: Mosque leaders in Raleigh, North Carolina, contact law enforcement to notify them of “violent, threatening action … considered to be dangerous” leading to the arrest of Daniel Boyd and 6 other individuals.

November 2009: Five Virginia Muslim youth are arrested in Pakistan, allegedly seeking to join a terror group, after family members told American federal authorities they went
missing.

April 2010: Senegalese Muslim Alioune Niass first spots the suspicious vehicle used as a bomb to attack Times Square in New York City. Clues from the vehicle and defused explosive immediately led to the suspect, Faisal Shahzad’s, arrest.

June 2010: Suspects Mohammed Mahmoud Alessa and Carlos Eduardo Almonte are arrested, after the FBI first receives an anonymous report in 2006 from one of the suspects’ family members. News reports indicate one of Alessa’s family members provided the tip.

But, of course, this goes against the narrative that Spencer wants to put forward. Thus, he will not tell you anything that will put the Muslim community in a positive light. Now, I really don’t expect anything else from the likes of Spencer, but it is important that you, the reader, know the truth.

He did not represent any group or religion, unlike muslims claiming operating under Alqaeda and Islam

and with the same logic, if a Muslim walked in a restaurant and killed 20 people because he was pissed off for having been fired, or dumped by his girl friend, or raped by the cook, he would not be a terrorist either.

herve wrote:So all mass murderers are terrorists?

"violence not only is the answer, it is the only answer."

He's clearly a terrorist suicide bomber and it is clear that if his name was Ahmed, you'd be using this label too.

I refer you to my other comments about 'beliefs' vs evidence - and ask you to consider whether this is relevant when comparing Islamophic rants about the 'majority' of Muslims and the reality.

herve wrote:What you do is disinformation, Joe Stack was not a terrorist, he can only be compared to the guy who walks to his work place and gun down his former colleagues, or the student on a high school killing spree.
He flew a single engine private plane, alone, not a commercial jet with innocent passengers
He did not have a bomb, so he cant be a bomber
He served no cause, no ideology, unlike Muslims chanting Allahu akbar before they kill
He did not represent any group or religion, unlike muslims claiming operating under Alqaeda and Islam
He acted alone, unlike muslims who are trained (ill trained) manipulated, funded, brainwashed by Islamists
The guy was desperate and angry against the IRS, not the entire USA.

and with the same logic, if a Muslim walked in a restaurant and killed 20 people because he was pissed off for having been fired, or dumped by his girl friend, or raped by the cook, he would not be a terrorist either.
Because a situation like this does not qualify to terrorism. You see in this example that the religion alone is not a factor and has nothing to do with the crime.

The fact that the stats show terrorist acts carried out by Muslims in Europe only account for 0.4% of the total terrorist acts is not really relevant here (the list relates to the USA).

A database used by Islamist groups to support claims that the Muslim community is responsible for helping to break up one-third of terrorist plots is based on flawed and selective use of data, an Investigative Project on Terrorism analysis shows.

The Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) claims in its study that "almost 1 out of 3 al-Qaida-related terror plots threatening America since 9/11/01" were thwarted in part because of help from the Muslim community. However, the MPAC study is full of mistakes, faulty data, contradictions, selective use of information, and demonstrably dishonest analysis:

* MPAC overstates the role of "community assistance," including plots that were broken up by intelligence assets overseas and other plots that had little or nothing to do with the U.S. Muslim community;

* MPAC selectively defines what is a "terrorism incident," ignoring a huge set of cases involving the domestic support of terrorist organizations, as well as those involving threats outside of al Qaida, such as Hamas and Hizballah;

* MPAC ignores traditional law enforcement techniques, specifically avoiding the use of informants, a technique that the organization frequently condemns.

herve wrote:I put Joe stark on the list, but it is not on the official list, just to prove you that whether it s there or not It does not change the outcome, Muslims terrorits are from far the biggest threat ever.

kanelli wrote:So event horizon, why do Muslims make rehabilitation programmes for extremist militants if all Muslims support terrorist goals?

You don't suppose that what he saw in al Qaeda in Yemen was turning him off, and that personal reflection during the holy month of Ramadan could have made this man change his mind? No, couldn't be possible...

0.4% in the EU were indeed carried out by Muslims.

herve wrote:so, 32 attacks out of 35 by Muslims, it is still 6 % to you. Why do you keep repeating these figures, you only discredit yourself.