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hahaa you're behaving silly again..Americans were already in the ME before 70's whipping the kings for cheap oil...Do you know why OPEC had to be established? The reason why the kings used oil weapon in the 70's was Yom Kippur War.

OPEC was established to resist the price pressure from the 'Seven Sisters'.

Nothing silly about it. Its reality, but you should understand that the US sees Israel more as a nuisance than a credible ally. Only because we feel the need for a moral obligation to the Jewish people, do we support them against hostile Arabs in the region. Us Europeans are actually not in favor of US politics in the ME.

Doesn't mean relations with Israel aren't under severe pressure. Cause they are!

The US isn't all that bad. They just want cheap oil to keep the party going. Give them that and you can start eliminating corruption from your governments and shed a few Western-funded dictators in the process.

People think in conspiracies when the real deal is actually very simple. All about stable supply of oil.

God you're just so good at twisting and playing devils advocate..You have been confronted many times over you twisted logic but never mind...I am not going continue with you enough for the day, the more you get cornered the worse you twist in agony mate..

So you don't agree with the simple fact that oil is the main driver for US presence in the Middle East?

shafique wrote:^If Chuck Norris were a calendar, every month would be named Chucktober, and every day he'd kick your a.ss.

Now, can we get back to 'Sea of Stupidity'?


Rob, here's a line you may find useful in future:

An old Israeli saying describing various less-than-esteemed military leaders says: “He was so stupid that even the other generals noticed.” The same derisive remark could be applied almost without exception to the present generation of Israeli politicians.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/patrick-cockburn-pr-dangerously-distorts-the-israeli-sense-of-reality-1988977.html

At least the Israeli navy fights back when attacked. British navy just surrenders like wusses (like to Iran).

Oh come on Dutchie, stop trying already and focus. In your own words

Flying Dutchman wrote:Lets focus on the story and how it develops.

And go look at your posts a few pages back. What happened to all the pro Israeli crap you were flinging and invoking international law and all ?

Flying Dutchman wrote:Under international law it is permissible to attack neutral vessels on the high seas when the vessels “are believed on reasonable grounds to be carrying contraband or breaching a blockade, and after prior warning they intentionally and clearly refuse to stop, or intentionally and clearly resist visit, search or capture.”

Israel notified the flotilla that their goods could still be transferred to gaza after a routine security inspection.

Israel could consider this as an act of war from Turkey.

You could be right about the Act of war but its Turkey who should be considering this, and Turkey being a member of NATO, an attack by Israel on a NATO member flagged ship in international waters is an event to which NATO is legally obliged, as a matter of treaty to react.
Is NATO genuinely a mutual defence organisation, or is it just an instrument to carry out US foreign policy? -

Flying Dutchman wrote:

An old Israeli saying describing various less-than-esteemed military leaders says: “He was so stupid that even the other generals noticed.” The same derisive remark could be applied almost without exception to the present generation of Israeli politicians.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/patrick-cockburn-pr-dangerously-distorts-the-israeli-sense-of-reality-1988977.html

At least the Israeli navy fights back when attacked. British navy just surrenders like wusses (like to Iran).

Yeah, but they didn't get shot with their own weapons and then cried about seeing terrorists with rifles before shooting 9 dead.

At least the RN surrendered to guys with weapons and didn't have to make up stories about civilians being armed terrorists!

Perhaps that's because British generals aren't joked about in the terms used for the Israeli generals above (we tend to ridicule our politicians )

Cheers,
Shafique

And just in case I'm accused of having a sense of humour failure, may I respectfully requote Mr Steel:

Israel and its supporters claim that Viva Palestina, made up of people who collect the donated food, cement and items for providing basic amenities such as toilets, and transport them to Gaza, wanted the violence all along. Because presumably they must have been thinking "Hezbollah couldn't beat them, but that's because unlike us they didn't have a ballcock and several boxes of plum tomatoes".

Lets sing it all together now!!! Flotilla Choir a la Michael Jackson - Heal the World



"We are the World!"
"Abandon Reason"
"We'll Make Them All Believe That the Hamas is Momma Theresa"

"We are Peaceful Travellers"
"We're Waving Our Own Knives"
"The Truth Will Never Find Its Way to Your TV"

"We Con the World" - Yalla Let me Hear You! -
"We Con the People"
"We Make them All Believe The IDF is Jack the Ripper"

Enjoy the song fella's. Aid rules!

Well, I think the song they'll chant is more like:

#You're not spinning, you're not spinning..

You're not spinning any more, any more!#


(Sung in the key of 'irony' of course)


It also seems that Finkelstein's explanation of why the crazeee generals/admirals decided to launch the botched operation is not just his opinion:
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/israel-s ... x-1.294206


But I still have to come across a better quote that illustrates how much some Israelis and fanbois have lost touch with reality:

According to a senior officer, "Under the circumstances, and I do not like the result, I think we did the best we could. We took care of five ships without injuries. On the sixth ship, we faced a harsh attack and killed nine saboteurs.

"No real peace activist was injured. No soldier was killed, even though it came pretty close. In the end the ships are docked at Ashdod. It was very complicated and the result is near perfect."

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/ne ... d-1.294114







Cheers,
Shafique

shafique wrote:..and then cried about seeing terrorists with rifles before shooting 9 dead.

BTW - what happened to this story about a rifle? Is this another case of early misinformation that vanishes under closer inspection?

Someone also should tell the US that the IHH has links to Al Qaeda as the Israelis allege - the US don't agree with Israel that it is a terrorist organistion (in fact, they seem to have done nothing more than President Carter and others have done - i.e. met with representatives of the elected party in Gaza):

From 2nd June at a US briefing:

QUESTION: P.J., on – yesterday, I think we were talking about IHH and the accusations that it is part – it supports terrorist organizations. There were some who said it supported al-Qaida in some fashion. Did you get some clarification on that?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, we know that IHH representatives have met with senior Hamas officials in Turkey, Syria, and Gaza over the past three years. That is obviously of great concern to us. That said, the IHH, which stands for the Humanitarian Relief Foundation, has not been designated as a Foreign Terrorist Organization by the United States.

QUESTION: So the U.S. does not believe it has connections to al-Qaida?
MR. CROWLEY: We cannot validate that.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2010/06/142591.htm

Cheers,
Shafique

Berrin wrote:

Why Israel has nuclear weapon and Iran is not even allowed to have spare parts to repair its military aircraft?!!!!
Why is it that the arms race in the Middle East was started by the Israeli's and nobody is waging war against them for thier "WMDs"?
Why is Israel allowed to go on producing weapons of mass destruction and nobody is allowed to inspect them?

It's all started more than a century ago when zionist jews were getting wealth wise stronger both in Ottoman and European lands..Then of course when zion interests met economic/religious interests of the industrilising christian Europe/America led them to join their efforts to create a satellite state called Israel inside ME against the threat of growing Islam or islamic development. Basically it's all power and control game and still continues to this day so much so that uncontrollable israel is now about to become a thorn in their own flesh, as the west cannot stop neither ME nor Asia from development or self determined cooperations.

http://adnan-globalissues.blogspot.com/ ... -west.html
http://adnan-globalissues.blogspot.com/ ... ation.html
http://www.mpacuk.org/story/250110/ther ... islam.html

Thanks Berren. Very articulate point of view. No wonder why has the US always ensured that South and North Korea are in constant fighting.

Cheers for the links

I find the below article very interesting and somehow plausible. Faisal Al Qasim wrote for Gulf News English Website in which he argues that, western democracies are only democratic within their borders, and they have no qualms about practising the worst type of despotism abroad.


“West follows the laws of the jungle

Like predators, democracies are very tender with their own kind and very fierce and aggressive with others

There is no doubt about the fact that European and American governments practise the best kind of democracy within their borders. And most of us have heard about the great efforts exerted by western regimes to rescue a kidnapped western national here and there. No sooner does a western embassy hear that one of its nationals is in danger somewhere than it mobilises all its capabilities to help him or her, whereas hundreds of Arab nationals might perish anywhere in the world without even being mentioned on the news.
The US government, for instance, never hesitates to send military personnel and even aircraft to rescue an American national who has got lost in a jungle or a desert. It sometimes goes even further by intervening militarily. We all remember how the Carter administration sacrificed its political future to rescue the US nationals who were taken hostage by Iranian students in Tehran in 1979. The operation was very risky indeed, but still the US president had no problem trying to save his citizens' lives, no matter what the outcome might be. The operation failed, but it was worth trying according to the US government.
We all also saw how the Americans dealt with the US citizen who was a member of Al Qaida in Afghanistan. While his fellow Arab and Muslim colleagues were shipped roughly to Guantanamo Bay as if they were a bunch of beasts, John Walker Lindh, known as the American Taliban, was taken aside to be sent first to Germany in a very respectable manner to be treated there, and then he was transferred to his homeland to be tried before a civil court. Meanwhile, the Arab Al Qaida members were tried before a martial court.
Contrast

There is a world of difference between the way the Americans deal with a US national and the way they manhandle foreigners. This is by no means a criticism, as the US administration is solely responsible to the people who elected it. And I very much wish Arab governments would deal with their people in the same way America deals with its nationals, irrespective of treating foreigners badly.
It is also true that British colonialists were extremely brutal with the people they colonised in Asia and Africa, to the extent that the English racist poet Rudyard Kipling used to say that his dog was better than all the African servants working on his farm. Whereas western colonialists treated Third World people very badly, they used to do their best to care for their people back home. And of course all the wealth that the colonialists reaped from Asia and Africa was used for the good of the western people.

When we look now at the nature of international relations, we see a similar picture. The great western democracies still behave in much the same way towards Third World countries, if not worse, which contrasts flagrantly with the type of democracy they practise at home. Former US president George W. Bush had no problem at all turning into a horrible dictator when dealing with Arabs and Muslims. We all remember his famous saying "you are either with us or against us", which contrasts miserably with the basic doctrines of democracy. US strategist Zbigniew Brzezinski was even more fascist, regarding other races as inferior and barbaric.

Israel, in its turn, brags about being the only democracy in the Middle East, while at the same time treating non-Jews living in the Jewish state as third-, if not fourth-class citizens.

I am sure many of us have wondered about this. Why does a western democracy deal with its people in the nicest manner, while at the same time mistreating other people? Why does a western leader respect human rights to a remarkable degree inside his country, but have no problem behaving like a beast with other people? The answer is very simple. It is jungle democracy. A western leader deals with his people in the same way a predator deals with his cubs. We have all seen how a lioness, a hyena, a leopard, a wolf or other predators deal with the rest of the animals. They have no problem killing rabbits, deer, zebras and others. It is certainly strange to see a lioness tearing a gazelle into pieces, and then a minute later gently caressing its young in a very kind, motherly manner.

In other words, predators are very tender with their kind and very fierce and aggressive with others. And so are western democracies. There is no democracy in international relations. Thomas Hobbes' theory, in which he argues that "man is a wolf to other men", applies only to the West's dealing with other nations.

I wish we Arabs could follow this example. But alas, we seem to do exactly the opposite — we behave as hyenas with each other and as rabbits with others.”

More from Comedy/Pirate central.

Military: It's your fault..
Politicians: No - it's your fault:
Fanbois: It all went to plan - if it only wasn't for those pesky terrorists who jumped in front of bullets to the head (4 times!). Islam is to blame.

Military, politicos blame each other for botched Gaza flotilla raid

The politicians look at the bungled raid and see the cause in the operation's planning - in the Navy and faulty intelligence. The General Staff says it was Netanyahu and Barak who assessed the raid wouldn't raise such world reactions.

By Amos Harel
Tags: Gaza flotilla Benjamin Netanyahu IDF

Tensions are mounting between military and political leaders over the raid on the Turkish aid ship Mavi Marmara. Each side suspects the other of trying to blame it for the bungled operation and consequent crisis.

The kind of inquiry panel into the affair has not been decided, but the debates about it are upping tensions among the top defense and political echelons. Apparently, the favored idea is to set up a civilian, rather than a military, inquiry - with the possible participation of a foreign observer.


The politicians look at the bungled raid and see the cause in the operation's planning - in the Navy and faulty intelligence - so the naval commando lacked a proper understanding of the kind of confrontation awaiting the soldiers on deck.

The General Staff, however, says it was Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak who were complacent about the flotilla and assessed that the raid would not raise such world reactions. It appears that the debate in the seven ministers' forum was relatively superficial and did not go into the operation's details. Netanyahu was in Canada during the raid and cut his visit short following the international flaying brought on by the incident.

It has become obvious that cooperation among the various groups preparing for the flotilla's arrival was deficient. The Israel Navy and General Staff held dozens of advance meetings over weeks, but virtually none involved other relevant offices like the Foreign Ministry or government public relations experts.

Due to the restricted involvement, the IDF led the preparations not only for the operation itself but for all aspects. Israel Navy commander Admiral Eliezer Marom and the navy drafted the operation with the participation of Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi and his deputy, Major General Benny Gantz.

The insufficient intelligence for the operation is renewing the grumbles between the IDF leadership and the Mossad. The IDF says the espionage agency did not properly use its resources in gathering intelligence about the flotilla.

The General Staff's intelligence section will examine the possibility that intelligence that could have improved the Navy's preparation for taking over the ships was "stuck in the pipes" and did not reach the Navy in time.

The Israel Navy is defending the raid's operative plan and claims it provided adequate solutions even to the unexpected circumstances on board. However, criticism of the operation in the IDF is increasing.

Senior officers said over the weekend it is important to distinguish between the combatants' bravery and their exemplary performance during the takeover and the intelligence and operational plan. Officers have slammed the absence of the element of surprise and the decision to raid six ships simultaneously, which prevented concentrating a larger force on the Mavi Marmara.

By way of comparison, the navy on Saturday took over the Gaza-bound Irish ship Rachel Corrie in the Mediterranean Sea. Commandos boarded the ship, encountering no resistance, and towed it to Ashdod port.

[url]
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/ne ... d-1.294383[/url]

shafique, my friend

But that’s exactly what Hitler did to the Jews. He ran a successful campaign and managed convincing the German people that Jews were leeches, greedy and bunch of evil people. Ironically, Israel has been doing just that against the Palestinians people, and anyone who tries stand up for them. Just pay attention to Israel’s rhetoric when talking about the Palestinians.

It’s ironic and beyond believe that Jewish would repeat what happened to them to those innocent Palestinians people who only asking Israel to end its occupation and let them to be free. Those Jewish who have been supporting this Apartheid Israeli regime must be ashamed.

Still can’t believe that the US is willing to jeopardize its wider interest for the sake of a country like Israel that brings little to its economy. I mean, the US’s trade with Qatar which is a little country is double of that with Israel, and imagine with the UAE would be humongous.

The combination of those ineffective king/rulers, Israel’s occupation of Palestine’s lands, and the unwavering support and protection from the US and some other Western countries to Israel and those Kings/rulers, made so many people throughout the Middle East feeling helpless and frustrated as they came to realize through time that they are up against the most richest kings/rulers and ruthless country in the world (Israel). As a result, this helplessness has created disenfranchise people in which some of them unfortunate tend to believe they have no choice but to show their anger through doing something extreme. And 9/11 was a horrible example of that. It’s not a rocket science to understand that normal human beings can only take so much before reacting to such injustice.

The propaganda that Muslims and Middle Eastern people hate Americans just because they like democracy or have deferent values is utterly untrue. Muslims and Middle Eastern people hate American government for what I’ve just mentioned above. It’s that simple, but yet the Media like to think otherwise.

The US’s negative interference in the wider Middle East has been driving so many people to extremism, whether in Islam, or in Judaism , or Christianity. Just have a look at those nuts right-wing Jewish party which right now is in charge of this apartheid Israel regime, or those extremists Evangel Christian in the US who strongly believe that the world has to end so Jesus would rebirth.

Such policy has to change, otherwise we will witness unprecedented rise of extremism and intolerance throughout the world, which eventually will lead to horrible destructions.

Justice, respect and compassion are laws which humans easily understand and relate to regardless of their culture, language etc. If these simple laws are implemented by countries throughout the world, then, a better and brighter world will eventually emerge.

Careful Humbleman, FD thinks that comparisons of Israeli actions with Nazi actions automatically makes you a Jew-hater. You may wish to point out that this observation has been made by Jewish politicians and intellectuals in the past - notably the Jewish MP (and pro-Zionist) Gerald Kaufman in a statement in parliament.

However, in this thread I find it hard to stick to the serious side of the story when the propaganda is so outrageous!

Cheers,
Shafique

The slapstick continues.

The photos of the pirates that were briefly captured were recovered after the Israelis deleted them from memory cards, apparently:

In the accompanying article, the paper reported that the photos had been censored and deleted by Israeli fighters aiming to prevent embarrassment for Israel and the IDF, but the activists were able to restore them. The paper further reported that in some of the photos, activists belonging to the IHH organization are seen caring for the wounded soldiers.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/turkish-paper-releases-censored-photos-of-beaten-israeli-commandos-1.294443

This one shows that the pirate capture was being filmed, I presume that this footage has been censored by the Israelis:


http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/g.php? ... gallerytop

But that’s exactly what Hitler did to the Jews. He ran a successful campaign and managed convincing the German people that Jews were leeches, greedy and bunch of evil people. Ironically, Israel has been doing just that against the Palestinians people, and anyone who tries stand up for them. Just pay attention to Israel’s rhetoric when talking about the Palestinians.

It’s ironic and beyond believe that Jewish would repeat what happened to them to those innocent Palestinians people who only asking Israel to end its occupation and let them to be free. Those Jewish who have been supporting this Apartheid Israeli regime must be ashamed.

Excellent bias you put up there. Hamas must be mother Theresa in all this. Not even one critique. Not one. Next time add Allah Akbar to your text. Gets you credits with the theists on DF.

I see when the cats away the little dutch rat is going to play again !

G i'm getting quite tired of your look all you theists your such loosers condesending attitude homes. I tried to reason with you man and seemed liked you understood and responded well. Like I said mate your just as moronic as you claim the theists to be.

I have some very good friends who are atheists, some who were even muslim before but arn't now. And I never hear anythem chuck this crap in every sentence they utter, which you seem to be doing.

Like I said anybodys whos been on this forum for more than a day knows about your stance and point of view you dont need to constantly shove it down peoples throat.

You have to earn respect buddy not to try to hog it. Seriously buddy let it go or atleast bring it in when its relevant.

Cheers

desertdudeshj wrote:I see when the cats away the little dutch rat is going to play again !

G i'm getting quite tired of your look all you theists your such loosers condesending attitude homes. I tried to reason with you man and seemed liked you understood and responded well. Like I said mate your just as moronic as you claim the theists to be.

I have some very good friends who are atheists, some who were even muslim before but arn't now. And I never hear anythem chuck this crap in every sentence they utter, which you seem to be doing.

Like I said anybodys whos been on this forum for more than a day knows about your stance and point of view you dont need to constantly shove it down peoples throat.

You have to earn respect buddy not to try to hog it. Seriously buddy let it go or atleast bring it in when its relevant.

Cheers

Wow, let me pink a tear away

My friend RobbyG. No. Unlike you I state facts, speak for justice, and definitely not afraid to condemn any unfair action or stand up for what’s right. If Hitler was alive and the Jews were still suffering, you bet I’d be the first in line to defend their rights, because they are humans first and foremost.

I don’t think you are that ignorant to not know the reason why Hamas and the entire Palestinians people have been resisting for over 60 years now. Is it that hard to grasp the simple logic that, if a human being’s house has been forcefully occupied, that human’s instinct will kicks in and therefore he/she will start to find a way to regain her/his freedom and dignity.

My friend, Hamas is not the Israeli target. The target is the same target it has been for over 60 years. Ordinary Palestinian people who have first suffered the indignity of having their land stolen from them, then endured over 60 years of appalling conditions within Palestine or exile outside it. Over sixty years of physical and psychological violence and oppression.

Israel has no interest in a negotiated peace. Peace means withdrawal, it means relinquishing territory, whereas Israel is still bent on expansion. That is what the continued stealing of West Bank land and the expanding of settlements are all about, together with the demolition of Palestinian homes, the security wall, the stifling of the Palestinian economy by over 600 checkpoints and countless other cruel vexations.

Israel has never liked Palestinian moderates, for the simple reason that concessions might have to be made to them. To avoid being drawn into negotiations, it has always preferred Palestinian radicals - and when they were not there it has done everything it could to create them. "How can you negotiate with someone who wants to kill you?" is a familiar Israeli refrain.

The war on Gaza has confirmed Israel's visceral rejection of any expression of Palestinian nationalism. It will kill to prevent it, as 60 years of wars, assassinations and massacres testify. Consciously or not, Israeli leaders seem to fear that any recognition of Palestinian aspirations undermines the legitimacy of their own national enterprise.

It may be that Gaza war was launched precisely because Hamas has recently shown signs of moderation. Its key spokesmen - including Khalid Mesha'al, head of its political bureau - have expressed their readiness to accept a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders. To Israel's dismay, they have begun to distance themselves from the movement's 1987 charter, which calls for Israel's destruction.

The Qassam rockets were a great embarrassment to the Israeli government. It was unable to stop them except by agreeing a truce. The rockets angered an Israeli population notoriously blind to any suffering but its own. But, in truth, the rockets were no more than highly irritating pin-pricks.

Humbleman wrote: whereas Israel is still bent on expansion.

Since 1967 Israel retreated from the Sinai, Gaza and South Lebanon. I have to check, but I believe more than 90% of the Pali population in the Westbank is under PA rule.

Humbleman wrote: the stifling of the Palestinian economy

Economic growth of Arab economy is the Westbank in 2009 was aroung 8%. Since the building freeze, Arab economy will take a serious hit.

Humbleman wrote: by over 600 checkpoints

I cant believe there are 600 checkpoints operational at the moment. Source please.

Humbleman wrote: The war on Gaza has confirmed Israel's visceral rejection of any expression of Palestinian nationalism.

The war in Gaza (and South Lebanon) shows that unilaterql actions are negative for peace.

Humbleman wrote: It may be that Gaza war was launched precisely because Hamas has recently shown signs of moderation. Its key spokesmen - including Khalid Mesha'al, head of its political bureau - [b]have expressed their readiness to accept a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders.

He is willing to accept it for 30 years. He calls it a hudna.

RobbyG wrote:Lets sing it all together now!!! Flotilla Choir a la Michael Jackson - Heal the World

"We are the World!"
"Abandon Reason"
"We'll Make Them All Believe That the Hamas is Momma Theresa"

"We are Peaceful Travellers"
"We're Waving Our Own Knives"
"The Truth Will Never Find Its Way to Your TV"

"We Con the World" - Yalla Let me Hear You! -
"We Con the People"
"We Make them All Believe The IDF is Jack the Ripper"

Enjoy the song fella's. Aid rules!

Youtube is changing the world!

Why am I not surprised that the third culture kid and our unemployed capitalist support the kike's propaganda? Dance on bones is the favorite show of these too open minded guys.

Of cause life of Mr. Shalit cost 1000 Turkish lives. That's why Jews chose the turkish, (not Western) boat for execution. Who cares about Turks?

If Abrams were human being they would use riot police with plastic bullets and special stuff instead of soldiers.

Red Chief wrote:Why am I not surprised that the third culture kid and our unemployed capitalist support the kike's propaganda? Dance on bones is the favorite show of these too open minded guys.

Of cause life of Mr. Shalit cost 1000 Turkish lives. That's why Jews chose the turkish, (not Western) boat for execution. Who cares about Turks?

If Abrams were human being they would use riot police with plastic bullets and special stuff instead of soldiers.

Third culture kid??
Talk about drama RC. What are you trying to do, instigate public opinion?

My stand on these events has been fairly clear, and I don't recall praising Israeli efficiency, and as of now I'm not interested in contributing to this discussion anymore!

But the song itself was funny, it questions media portrayal of events. And I do find that every media outlet no matter where, does publish whatsoever serves it's own interests best.
Truth be damned!

Misery Called Life wrote:But the song itself was funny, it questions media portrayal of events. And I do find that every media outlet no matter where, does publish whatsoever serves it's own interests best.
Truth be damned!

Pretty funny indead. Sorry for interference. Continue dancing.

Red Chief wrote:

Misery Called Life wrote:But the song itself was funny, it questions media portrayal of events. And I do find that every media outlet no matter where, does publish whatsoever serves it's own interests best.
Truth be damned!

Pretty funny indead. Sorry for interference. Continue dancing.

Clown Commie enters the fray with Skull and Bones.

Try to invent something original, poor epigone. Google made your brain absolutely dry.

Red Chief wrote:Try to invent something original, poor epigone. Google made your brain absolutely dry.

Glad I'm still capable of blowing your valve off.

Red Chief wrote:

Misery Called Life wrote:But the song itself was funny, it questions media portrayal of events. And I do find that every media outlet no matter where, does publish whatsoever serves it's own interests best.
Truth be damned!

Pretty funny indead. Sorry for interference. Continue dancing.

What is this some kinda mindf**k? I have no idea what ur insinuation or motivation is, but I'm fairly certain it isn't purely innocent. Unlike my earlier comment which was!

Don't worry MCL, the Chiefert is having a rough day today. Somebody stepped on his blood-saucage in the early morn'.

He's a bit of red devil now. It'll pass.