Dubai Forums Dubai Discussions Dubai Politics Talk

West Bank rabbi bans women from local election

The chief rabbi of a West Bank settlement has prohibited women from standing in a local community election.

Rabbi Elyakim Levanon of the Elon Moreh settlement, near Nablus, said women lacked the authority to stand for the post of local secretary.
He wrote in a community newspaper that women must only be heard through their husbands.

No women have registered for the election due to be held later on Wednesday, Israeli media reported.

The rabbi made his comments in the community's newspaper after an unidentified young woman wrote to him asking if she could run for the position of community secretary, the Israeli news website Ynet News said.

..

But in his weekly column, Rabbi Levanon wrote that, according to the teachings of influential rabbis, women were not allowed to apply for the position.

"The first problem is giving women authority, and being a secretary means having authority," Rabbi Levanon wrote in the community's newspaper.

"Within the family certain debates are held and when opinions are united the husband presents the family's opinion.

"This is the proper way to prevent a situation in which the woman votes one way and her husband votes another," he wrote.

He also said it was not appropriate for women to mix with men in late evening meetings of community leaders.
..

Islamic Scholars Fault Move to Install Woman Gov

As Kwarans await the emergence of the governorship candidate of the ruling Peoples Democractic Party (PDP) for the 2011 general elections, Islamic scholars in the state have called on stakeholders saddled with the task of picking the candidate to desist from presenting a woman governorship or deputy governorship candidate for the election.

The group, under the banner of Islamic Scholars of Ilorin, in a communiqu� issued Monday and made available to newsmen, said any such move would be against the will of Allah. They said the Sharia position on female leadership is subsidiary and not to occupy the grand leadership of any society.

The communiqu� read in part: �We as descendants and disciples of Sheikh Aalim, Sheikh Kamaldeen Al-Adabiyy, Sheikh Adam Al-llory and many other scholars, therefore see it as our collective obligation before our creator, then as a duty we owe those erudite scholars of our beloved town of Islamic principle to set the records straight on the position of Islam in such a case.

�This is being done without any motive to either support or work against the candidacy of any aspirant. �While it is unequivocally stated in Sharia literature that a woman can occupy, and indeed women have occupied, the position of subsidiary leadership, as ministers, commissioners etc, the grand leadership of a state or a nation is exclusively for men as the masculinity is usually stated conspicuously, as a prerequisite for the position of leadership of a state or a nation.

�Leadership in Islam is a responsibility and not a privilege; hence, restriction of grand leadership to males alone never suggests discrimination against women. The fact we had/have female leaders in very few muslims countries-compared to the overwhelming majority of them.�

Volume 5, Book 59, Number 709:

Narrated Abu Bakra:

During the days (of the battle) of Al-Jamal, Allah benefited me with a word I had heard from Allah's Apostle after I had been about to join the Companions of Al-Jamal (i.e. the camel) and fight along with them. When Allah's Apostle was informed that the Persians had crowned the daughter of Khosrau as their ruler, he said, "Such people as ruled by a lady will never be successful."

shafique wrote:Cue - 'but the Mooslims are worse' comments

Eh - I think you should make a pit stop in Palestine and explain the Bible to the Chief Rabbi (that is unless you agree with him on this?)

When Allah's Apostle was informed that the Persians had crowned the daughter of Khosrau as their ruler

What religion doesn't subjugate women?

kanelli wrote:What religion doesn't subjugate women?

Despinaki wrote:

kanelli wrote:What religion doesn't subjugate women?

All religions subjugate women!!!

Despinaki wrote:RobbyG, I am Atheist, Vegeterian, Feminist, Non-Smoker, etc, etc

RobbyG wrote:

Despinaki wrote:RobbyG, I am Atheist, Vegeterian, Feminist, Non-Smoker, etc, etc

Bitc.h alert. Feminist and Veggy is too much for me. I need meat on the bones!

Do you have any?

RobbyG wrote:
Robby needs love without hassle honey.

Despinaki wrote:

RobbyG wrote:
Robby needs love without hassle honey.

Well, eeeer...I can change

Despinaki wrote:RobbyG, I am Atheist, Vegeterian, Feminist, Non-Smoker, etc, etc

RobbyG wrote:

Despinaki wrote:

RobbyG wrote:
Robby needs love without hassle honey.

Well, eeeer...I can change

Hotty.

Know your place, come to Robby

shafique wrote:#love is in the air...#

kanelli wrote:

Despinaki wrote:RobbyG, I am Atheist, Vegeterian, Feminist, Non-Smoker, etc, etc

Ditto, except the vegetarian part. I was vegetarian and plan to go back to that.

shafique wrote:Of course I disagree with eh that the moooslims are far worse, but he has to say that or he'll be thrown out of his club.

shafique wrote:Well, I'm with eh on this one - we both agree that the Rabbis and Vicars who use take the Biblical verses which say women should 'know their place' should get with the programme and learn from eh on which verses to ignore and which to follow.

Of course I disagree with eh that the moooslims are far worse, but he has to say that or he'll be thrown out of his club.

It is a bit embarrassing for eh, though, that Rabbis and Vicars this month are preaching that the Bible should be taken literally when it comes to a woman's place - but hey, perhaps the Bible was influenced by the Quran. (... err, there may be a flaw in this logic.... can't quite put my finger on it ...errr )