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Go back to what our founders and our founding documents meant — they’re quite clear — that we would create law based on the God of the bible and the ten commandments. What in hell scares people about talking about America’s foundation of faith? It is that world view that involves some people being afraid of being able to discuss our foundation, being able to discuss God in the public square, that’s the only thing I can attribute it to.

So, let’s list the Ten Commandments so that everyone knows what Sarah Palin is talking about. Notwithstanding minor numbering and wording differences, the commandments read as follows:
You shall have no gods beside the Lord of Israel.
You shall not make for yourself an idol.
You shall not take the name of the Lord in vain.
Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy.
Honor your father and mother.
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbor.

Pretty benign, huh? But let’s take a closer look at what it means to have our law based upon the Ten Commandments and the Bible, and see what happens to those who violate them:

... [He quotes the Biblical verses for the punishments of the above]

Summary of punishments for violating the Ten Commandments:

#1 stoning to death
#2 stoning to death
#3 stoning to death
#4 stoning to death
#5 death
#6 death
#7 stoning to death
#8 sold into slavery
#9 you are destroyed
#10 stoning to death

Our legislators need to get busy if we are to follow Sarah Palin’s logic. They have a lot of pretty harsh laws to write.

Sarah Palin et al. want this country to be “Judeo-Christian”, by which they mean that the real Americans are Jews and Christians…certainly not Muslim-Americans, whose loyalty must always be questioned, since they are not real Americans. This all fits their xenophobic paradigm.

Palin’s contention that our Founding Fathers wanted to base this country’s law upon the Ten Commandments flies in the face of “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion…”

Now, let’s imagine:

What if a Muslim had said: “We need to create U.S. law based on the Quran”? What if someone said that American law should be based upon “Sharia”? People like Spencer, Geller, and the rest of the goof troop would be screaming “Islamicization!” “Dhimmitude!” “Jihad!” “Islamic Domination!” at the top of their lungs. They would spend day and night quoting Islamic scripture–just like I did with the Bible–to prove how horrible such a sentiment is. If they want to weaponize the Quran and hadiths, we can do the same with their scriptures. They will not win in this game, and it’s really unbelievable how profound their hypocrisy is.

Misery Called Life wrote:The hypocrisy in this post is simply that the OP is commenting against religious law governing the American constitution. But would Shafique raise any objections were it Islamic Law?

What if a Muslim had said: “We need to create U.S. law based on the Quran”?

What if someone said that American law should be based upon “Sharia”? People like Spencer, Geller, and the rest of the goof troop would be screaming “Islamicization!” “Dhimmitude!” “Jihad!” “Islamic Domination!” at the top of their lungs. They would spend day and night quoting Islamic scripture–just like I did with the Bible–to prove how horrible such a sentiment is. If they want to weaponize the Quran and hadiths, we can do the same with their scriptures.

They will not win in this game, and it’s really unbelievable how profound their hypocrisy is.

Misery Called Life wrote:But would Shafique raise any objections were it Islamic Law?

It is not ridiculous however; I think to explore the idea that religious principles are contained within the law of America. Clearly there are many things we can all agree on, regardless of faith, such as laws against murder and theft, which also happen to be a couple of commandments.

shafique wrote:What if a Muslim had said: “We need to create U.S. law based on the Quran”?

What if someone said that American law should be based upon “Sharia”? People like Spencer, Geller, and the rest of the goof troop would be screaming “Islamicization!” “Dhimmitude!” “Jihad!” “Islamic Domination!” at the top of their lungs. They would spend day and night quoting Islamic scripture–just like I did with the Bible–to prove how horrible such a sentiment is. If they want to weaponize the Quran and hadiths, we can do the same with their scriptures.

They will not win in this game, and it’s really unbelievable how profound their hypocrisy is.

Misery Called Life wrote:But would Shafique raise any objections were it Islamic Law?

shafique wrote: But no, I don't object to people expressing a view that laws of the land should be based on God's laws.

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Misery Called Life wrote:It's fair to say that maybe Palin lost the plot with that comment but I'm willing to wager that she might also have been taken out of context. The hypocrisy in this post is simply that the OP is commenting against religious law governing the American constitution. But would Shafique raise any objections were it Islamic Law?

Dubai Knight wrote:I think they missed a couple of commandments off the list:

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbours wife (unless she is better looking than thine own!)

and of course the most important 11th commandment:

Thou shalt not get caught!

As for all the stoning...was a trip to Amsterdam an option in those days?

shafique wrote:Isn't that Commandment No10 above?

shafique wrote:I'll have to defer to your greater knowledge of this subject DK - I once got a bit light headed after eating a couple of Belgian chocolates which had Haram juice in them unbeknowest to me!

'Black' - shrugs.

Does that induce paranoia and tourettes, is it available in RobbyG's home country?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique wrote:You, sir, are nothing if not a fount of knowledge!

Enlightenment indeed - but what is that haze in front of my eyes? ...