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Red Chief wrote:

RobbyG wrote:You'll be amazed when I put up my American accent. Italian dialect we can try.

Rob, I have never doubted about your American accent though.

WhiteJade wrote:Care it or not Bora. I do not like you. And I see that you are not aware of and do not care about the reasons.

And you are indeed funny to just jump to a conclusion despite the fact.

How old are you 12???

I never much cared for you but it didn't mean that there wasn't a possibility that you could actually have something to say that had any substance. But you confirmed otherwise. Thank you.

Bora Bora wrote:

WhiteJade wrote:Care it or not Bora. I do not like you. And I see that you are not aware of and do not care about the reasons.

And you are indeed funny to just jump to a conclusion despite the fact.

How old are you 12???

I never much cared for you but it didn't mean that there wasn't a possibility that you could actually have something to say that had any substance. But you confirmed otherwise. Thank you.

Touché.

Bora Bora wrote:

WhiteJade wrote:Care it or not Bora. I do not like you. And I see that you are not aware of and do not care about the reasons.

And you are indeed funny to just jump to a conclusion despite the fact.

How old are you 12???

I never much cared for you but it didn't mean that there wasn't a possibility that you could actually have something to say that had any substance. But you confirmed otherwise. Thank you.

From your side you did not get the post you wanted, for a day?

From my side I've been collecting information from official resources and translating them from Chinese to English, on the same subject, relevant information, as well as waiting for your specific questions.

However you never asked any specific questions and started all this.

Bora, this is not the way you live in a world, which ever it is. Guess if you do not want to get the accusation of 'two-faced', you have to behave to be a 'one-faced' in the real world, and the cyber world.

I am aware that I am younger than you and I supposed you should've known better.

WhiteJade wrote:From your side you did not get the post you wanted, for a day?

From my side I've been collecting information from official resources and translating them from Chinese to English, on the same subject, relevant information, as well as waiting for your specific questions.

However you never asked any specific questions and started all this.

I agree for 100%. Nobody wanted to have any reply. It has been the second bashing post after the post about Wilders.

WhiteJade wrote:
From my side I've been collecting information from official resources and translating them from Chinese to English, on the same subject, relevant information, as well as waiting for your specific questions.

Jade, luv, the worst thing you could do in order to remain credible is translating official sources as released by some government sources in a one party system. They all color up the books one way or another. Official child abductions figures in China are 'state secret'. Watch below;

To give you a small clue from the private sector whether the Communist party in mainland China is still censoring 'sensitive' information, you should read the following from Google: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... c0xziXCtLA

Google said on Jan. 12 that it will stop filtering results in China after what it called an infiltration of its technology and the e-mail accounts of Chinese human-rights activists. China yesterday called Google’s plan to defy government censorship rules “unfriendly and irresponsible.”

This means that YouTube will be uncensored soon, so that you will be able to access ALL videos and get a more realistic view of what happens in mainland China. This playlist below is a 3 part documentary from Australians program Dateline, but if you don't think that source is credible enough, I can pony up several other documentaries about China's 'wonderful' one-child policy and its related issues with child abductions, woman trafficking etc. even from Dutch sources.

Child trafficking:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p ... 7F2D4C362B

Women abduction for brides:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvmOmaLB ... re=related

I am aware of this Chinese underground industry for about 10 years now. Its nothing new to us in the West if you are interested. Most local people are kept in the dark because its a pride and shame issue that happens in all totalitarian states. We don't blame you for it, its the Communist party that needs new ethic rules.

I didn't have questions for you, since I'm very properly informed from many sources. But before you respond, wait till Google stops censoring Youtube in China and watch the documentaries to discuss the sources. There are so many sources, that you would go crazy about these issues in China. Thank god for Human Rights Watch who makes this a political issue in international affairs for over decades now.

WhiteJade wrote:

Bora Bora wrote:

WhiteJade wrote:Care it or not Bora. I do not like you. And I see that you are not aware of and do not care about the reasons.

And you are indeed funny to just jump to a conclusion despite the fact.

How old are you 12???

I never much cared for you but it didn't mean that there wasn't a possibility that you could actually have something to say that had any substance. But you confirmed otherwise. Thank you.

From your side you did not get the post you wanted, for a day?

From my side I've been collecting information from official resources and translating them from Chinese to English, on the same subject, relevant information, as well as waiting for your specific questions.

However you never asked any specific questions and started all this.

Bora, this is not the way you live in a world, which ever it is. Guess if you do not want to get the accusation of 'two-faced', you have to behave to be a 'one-faced' in the real world, and the cyber world.

I am aware that I am younger than you and I supposed you should've known better.

Why do you keep insisting that I had questions!!!??? More than a day? I guess we are using different calendars.

You are a contradiction WJ. You don't like me, but you were going through all that work to answer my questions which, again, I never said I had!!! Why do you keep insisting that I had questions, where there were none!!

Reminder: You volunteered to give information, I did ask you for it. If you were really researching, don't you think that would have sufficed as a response to my initial PM? Not the nasty response you came back with. You are not a very sincere person WJ.

I really wish you had never asked me to post that thread. You took a subject that was interesting, and turned it into something else. Thank you.

Red Chief wrote:I agree for 100%. Nobody wanted to have any reply. It has been the second bashing post after the post about Wilders.

Chief, you disappear and when you reappear the first thing you had to do was to take this thread into another direction. This could have been an interesting subject but you had to jump in looking to stir things up.

Bora Bora wrote:

Red Chief wrote:I agree for 100%. Nobody wanted to have any reply. It has been the second bashing post after the post about Wilders.

Chief, you disappear and when you reappear the first thing you had to do was to take this thread into another direction. This could have been an interesting subject but you had to jump in looking to stir things up.

Thats why we call him the revolutionary 'Trotsky'. After all, he recently escaped from Siberia, so he's starting another Communist party. You can't blame him for supporting Jade.

Its a legacy issue.

Robby, though you think you are 'properly informed from many sources', you are not aware of those really complicated situations in China.

I have an example here for 'women brides', if you were referring to human trafficking.

When I was about 7, that was around 20 yrs ago, my parents took me to the wedding of an aged bachelor's in our town. The bride, from any aspect you would define as 'trafficked', was one of the happiest brides I've ever seen on weddings. She was lied to, the 'agent' had told her she'd be working in a mill in town, but in fact she was brought to the bachelor's house directly and 'accompanied' by her future mother in law for a week before she got married to the man. Their daughter was born in the following year.

There are several other similar cases in the town. None of the 'women brides' were force into marriage, instead they were happily married and had been since then giving births to children and playing good roles as in-laws, wives and mothers.

My as well as neighbouring citizens' thoughts were and still are, getting married to those men in our town had helped those women(from places stroke by poverty) get out of those unbearable situations back in their hometowns and had opened other doors for them.

These women were lied to, 'sold', in a way, to strangers. But they were somehow able to live better lives.

Talking about 'human right', shouldn't it serve for the purpose of making people happier?

And Robby, by collecting information from official resources I do not just quote random figures and pass them to others. Instead I 'filter' and give only those enough trustworthy ones(supported by facts).

Plus I am living in China and seeing the real Chinese world with my own eyes. Thus besides official sources, I try also to figure things out by myself.

Bora Bora wrote:Chief, you disappear and when you reappear the first thing you had to do was to take this thread into another direction. This could have been an interesting subject but you had to jump in looking to stir things up.

It could've been if WJ had agreed with all that dirt you had poured out without any knowledge about history and real situation in China (There are truth, lie and statistics as you know).

Unfortunately WJ rejected. Rob did absolutely the same when you jumped on Holland. I can only agree with you that both countries are far away both from Mexican and Persian Gulfs.

WhiteJade wrote:
And Robby, by collecting information from official resources I do not just quote random figures and pass them to others. Instead I 'filter' and give only those enough trustworthy ones(supported by facts).

Plus I am living in China and seeing the real Chinese world with my own eyes. Thus besides official sources, I try also to figure things out by myself.

Sensible.

Well, as long as you are self-critical, you're a smart one. But never trust a government on its blue eyes. Thats all I want to share with you.

I know where to find you if I do happen to have questions in the future. I just don't have them now.

Bora Bora wrote:Why do you keep insisting that I had questions!!!??? More than a day? I guess we are using different calendars.

You are a contradiction WJ. You don't like me, but you were going through all that work to answer my questions which, again, I never said I had!!! Why do you keep insisting that I had questions, where there were none!!

Reminder: You volunteered to give information, I did ask you for it. If you were really researching, don't you think that would have sufficed as a response to my initial PM? Not the nasty response you came back with. You are not a very sincere person WJ.

I really wish you had never asked me to post that thread. You took a subject that was interesting, and turned it into something else. Thank you.

You were asking questions in the Waterfront post, then I offered to answer questions you may have on China, if you start a thread about it. You started a thread on 11th, a day later, however, before asking questions, you hit me with that offensive PM and started all this.

After you have called me a real piece of work/twat/rude/liar/two-faced/squirm sister Mary Jade/ASS, etc., now you are telling me you do not have any questions.

Well this is really funny.

Red Chief wrote:

Bora Bora wrote:Chief, you disappear and when you reappear the first thing you had to do was to take this thread into another direction. This could have been an interesting subject but you had to jump in looking to stir things up.

It could've been if WJ had agreed with all that dirt you had poured out without any knowledge about history and real situation in China (There are truth, lie and statistics as you know).

Unfortunately WJ rejected. Rob did absolutely the same when you jumped on Holland. I can only agree with you that both countries are far away both from Mexican and Persian Gulfs.

Nice, it could have been if it wasn't for me and WJ, you contributed nothing to the problem.

I posted an article you ahole. I made no comment on it with reagrd to "history" or the real situation. Go back to the beginning and read. Better yet, go find the original post that brought this about. You started the mud slinging, then you had to toss your brown stained drawers into it.

Mexican? Persian Gulfs?? There are now multiple Persian Gulfs??? or is there something called the Mexican Gulf that I don't know about? I'm aware of the Persian Gulf and the Gulf of Mexico. Is this an example of your knowledge?? Are you now an expert on the "real" situation in China?? You are as thick as WJ.

Get back on your meds you idiot. I think you and WJ are sharing the same bottle. Both pulling crap out of the air. Are you the by-product of some Russian military experiment that went wrong?

RobbyG wrote:I know where to find you if I do happen to have questions in the future. I just don't have them now.

Hope it will not be a similar story to this one then!

WhiteJade wrote:
After you have called me a real piece of work/twat/rude/liar/two-faced/squirm sister Mary Jade/ASS, etc., now you are telling me you do not have any questions.

Well this is really funny.

She's quite a character huh?

WhiteJade wrote:

Bora Bora wrote:Why do you keep insisting that I had questions!!!??? More than a day? I guess we are using different calendars.

You are a contradiction WJ. You don't like me, but you were going through all that work to answer my questions which, again, I never said I had!!! Why do you keep insisting that I had questions, where there were none!!

Reminder: You volunteered to give information, I did ask you for it. If you were really researching, don't you think that would have sufficed as a response to my initial PM? Not the nasty response you came back with. You are not a very sincere person WJ.

I really wish you had never asked me to post that thread. You took a subject that was interesting, and turned it into something else. Thank you.

You were asking questions in the Waterfront post, then I offered to answer questions you may have on China, if you start a thread about it. You started a thread on 11th, a day later, however, before asking questions, you hit me with that offensive PM and started all this.

After you have called me a real piece of work/twat/rude/liar/two-faced/squirm sister Mary Jade/ASS, etc., now you are telling me you do not have any questions.

Well this is really funny.

What part of I DID NOT SAY I HAD QUESTIONS do you not understand???? I don't recall telling YOU that I had QUESTIONS nor do I recall asking you to ANSWER any.

I still stand by all those as you have so proven to be all of that, as I'm sure you still stand by what you said in your PMs. ASS as in Donkey. TWAT as in idiot/fool. You are a real piece of work, rude, a liar, and two-faced. You act holier than thou, hence, Sister Mary Jade.

Could you practice your latrine language somewhere else? Please also wipe the place from where your words are basicaly comming.

You need Calcium Bora.

I rest my case.

This is how it started on March 11:

Your first comment to my post with the article link.

Revealing fetus s.ex is illegal in most cities in China.

You are free to believe in everything you read though.

(Your comment about what I believed regarding the ’western’ press appeared in your first PM to me)

My response to you post:

WJ, you coming from China could certainly clarify if there are statements in the article that are true or not. But you do say it is illegal in MOST cities. Is that to say that it is done? Are any of the statements in the article untrue?? I think this is by far a much more important issue that the "politics" of Dubai.

(Here I indicate that you could certainly CLARIFY the article. First question was in response to your statement. The second “question” posed was a broad one asking you about the truth/untruth of the article (which falls under clarification).

Your response:

Bora, start a thread about China. I will give answers to all your questions there.

You have my word.

It all seemed so simple and clear. I then sent you the PM letting you know where I posted it, then you came back with your nastiness. Can you see where it all started to go downhill WJ?

Red Chief wrote:Could you practice your latrine language somewhere else? Please also wipe the place from where your words are basicaly comming.

Brilliant, coming from old pond scum the likes of you. Please read up and reread your post about dirty laundry. You are a real stomach turner Trotsky. Shall I pull up some of your ing foul posts from the past RC?? As I recall you were (and probably still are) THE most foulest of individuals to post on DF.

What gives, have you been reborn and found God during your absence from DF?

WhiteJade wrote:

RobbyG wrote:I know where to find you if I do happen to have questions in the future. I just don't have them now.

Hope it will not be a similar story to this one then!

Doesn't matter how convenient or how inconvenient the stories might be. They all have to come out, to be discussed and for matters to be improved.

After all, wouldn't you be much happier if you could choose your personal faith? Individual freedom of choice?

ps: if you say no, then you respond in the same way as the women in my country reacted after they obtained/accepted equal rights and independant lifestyles in the late '60s, but are now enjoying all the benefits we men have. Back then, some housewives felt uncomfortable, insecure with the idea of becoming independant.

The muslim women living in the West has the same issue now, that Western women had back in the 1960's. Its a religious dogma and mostly an insecurity thing. I don't have to explain to you how part of the womens minds work. They say they love that headscarf (the identity thing) and that awful black cloth from head to toes when standing next to their husbands (or not), but when they finally obtained and accepted the freedom of wearing beautiful clothers in public (if ever) they are more free, enjoying life, more than ever before.

Its a fact. Aks our third generation integrated muslim women. They love their independance.

So don't tell me that those women who get trafficked are always happy. When you are 10 years old and you get abducted, you don't even know what that is. A childs mind isn't even developed to grasp the impact. Its still learning! They are taken away from their lives and personal choices. Thats a gods disgrace. I wish nobody ever experiences that.

"Washing underwear on public" means only that you make something public that is only for private use. That was PRIVATE message made for.

It's not only me but WJ as well are fed up from your offencive language that you cowardly calls just another dialect of English.

"Kike" is inadmissible but "commie" is Ok. It's the top of hypocrisy.

Red Chief wrote:"Washing underwear on public" means only that you make something public that is only for private use. That was PRIVATE message made for.

It's not only me but WJ as well are fed up from your offencive language that you cowardly calls just another dialect of English.

"Kike" is inadmissible but "commie" is Ok. It's the top of hypocrisy.

As far as the use of the word "kike" you are the only one who used it - no one else.
As for the word "commie" - I'm hardly the only one to have called you that.
Don't compare the two words Chief.

When I told you to reread your post regarding "laundry" clearly you chose to overlook your ing remark. Oh, may be you thought you made a funny.

Here's a solution: when I post, don't find the need to respond. All you have to do is show some restraint and bypass my posts. In all of this it wasn't me responding to either of you, it was the both of you responding to my posts, which I may add - you took in another direction. Or, here's another option: you and WJ can go play somewhere else.

Its very simple Chief, if you ignore me, I ignore you. I've seen posts that you put up and thought it best not to "get involved" because you always manage to turn nasty, so I looked to avoid it. But you, you just can't help yourself. Why don't you try showing some restraint.

I really don't think WJ needs for you to speak for her. She is quite capable of doing that herself.

Clearly, you are upset. Your English is starting to fall apart.

As I said before it's an open forum and you can make YOUR rules somewhere else, not here. Understand?

Red Chief wrote:As I said before it's an open forum and you can make YOUR rules somewhere else, not here. Understand?

Oh, OK. "Understand?" What are you doing, giving me an order?? Am I suppose to feel threatened now???

Just like the way you make the rules on this forum. Gotcha.

I am quite happy how this threat goes. I will not ignore you. No, No, Of cause not!

Red Chief wrote:I am quite happy how this threat goes. I will not ignore you. No, No, Of cause not!

Keep on yapping.

Red Chief wrote:I am quite happy how this threat goes. I will not ignore you. No, No, Of cause not!

Say Master Chief. Your english is starting to crack. What happened, did you suck up an entire Vodka rack just now?

Toy Boy, your mistress has already expressed this brilliant observation. You can relax and return to the cozy den you have just come from.