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Just because a person can afford to pay for something does not mean they should go ahead and waste their money on it. And yes, i use the word 'waste' because a public free beach is made for people to enjoy the sand and the water, NOT made out to fondle themselves over the sigh of naked flesh. Those who abuse the properties of the beach should be banned from going, period. Dont expect those who abide by the rules to change venues!! Thats an utterly ridiculous request!!

Like i said, there should be a barrier of trees/bushes made to seperate the sand/water from the road/sidewalks. Those who pay and still go and hover over half naked women should be promptly escorted out. A second offence should bring a swift fine, and a third offence should spell out deportation. And that should be applicable to anyone and everyone who harasses people on the beach.

But dont expect me to shell out a few thousand dirhams just to avoid the actions of someone who shouldnt be doing them in the first place.

Typical, unable to give a decent answer, why am I not surprised. And who says thousands of dirhams? There are other 'free' and cheap places.

So if you had your way it would be a segregated beach - nice throw the palce back into the dark ages.

Oh and the 'request' to ban all the workers is not unreasonable or ridiculous? I certainly think it is.

However, your comments on warnings and fines is a sensible option. But people wearing inappropriate things and going topless should also fall into the warning and fine categories aswell. It cannot be one rule for one and another for another - oh wait what am I saying this is the UAE, that's how things work

Chocoholic wrote:Typical, unable to give a decent answer, why am I not surprised. And who says thousands of dirhams? There are other 'free' and cheap places.

So if you had your way it would be a segregated beach - nice throw the palce back into the dark ages.

Probably we live on different places but the laborers are everywhere on Friday, especialy if places are free, like a beachfront in Sharjah.
On the other hand hotels charged family from 50 to 100 Dhs per head and bearing in mind that the family in the UAE is rather large it could be rather costly and so is hardly affordable for many of them.

Yes true. But the education and fine route is really the only way to go. Asking for them to be banned from 'public' places is just stupid!

There are a few free places where they won't go because it involves a little bit of travel. But I'm not about to reveal my 'special' places - don't want an influx of beach bums

Banning a particular group of people is just asinine, every individual who acts like an idiot should be apprehended, but blanket bans are stupid


Many locals dont like the sight of bikini clad people in public beaches, so do they propose banning all westerners for that?

Chocoholic wrote:Yes true. But the education and fine route is really the only way to go. Asking for them to be banned from 'public' places is just stupid!

He-he, Chocks. You should be a teacher. Education (Upbringing) of adults is the most weird thing I've heard. Their parents should've done that before the age of 8.
You cannot accept the situation as is.
As for secret places I doubt that long trip to such destinations would be a great relaxation for large family.

So you assume that once people reach adulthood they are incapable of learning anything new? What planet are you living on?

Of course people can be taught how to behave properly, because what it boils down to is the fact that these guys don't! They've never been told that certain things are unacceptable. It's like the toilet thread, people from different cultures do things differently and unless they are told otherwise.

People are intelligent and have the capacity to 'learn'.

Chocks, pls. drop your abstract theories just for a moment. There have been no changes for years.
Beatiful (in the morning) Al Mamzar Park is for the laborers only on Friday. It has been a reality.

Hardly an abstract theory. You statement about adults not having the ability to learn is the most retarded thing I've read in a long time.

And I don't think asking for 'normality' is thinking outside the box. Annnnd just because things take time to change doesn't mean they won't. If we all thought like you, we'd be back in the dark ages!

So you offer to conserve the situation, don't you?

Focus on the topic pls. Your rants are a little bit misplaced. Nobody wants from them for well upbringing and good manners but only muscul job for small money.

Chocoholic wrote:Typical, unable to give a decent answer, why am I not surprised. And who says thousands of dirhams? There are other 'free' and cheap places.

So if you had your way it would be a segregated beach - nice throw the palce back into the dark ages.

Oh and the 'request' to ban all the workers is not unreasonable or ridiculous? I certainly think it is.

However, your comments on warnings and fines is a sensible option. But people wearing inappropriate things and going topless should also fall into the warning and fine categories aswell. It cannot be one rule for one and another for another - oh wait what am I saying this is the UAE, that's how things work

Ive only been here one day, and you already know what is and isnt 'typical' about me? how the blue Fudge are you a moderator?

Name me ONE (thats right, just ONE) club in dubai that offers its services for less than 1000 dirhams per year per person. And those 'free' places are the EXACT same ones that get infested by workers on fridays!

There is nothing wrong with segregation if it serves to protect the identity and purpose of the place. A beach is not made for someone to fondle themselves on, and if someone needs to 'segregate' those kinds of people from the regular beachgoers, then thats exactly what someone needs to do.

Yes, I agree that people who go topless should be fined (And from what i know, that does happen); but this thread is not about those who go topless on the beach, its about those who fondle themselves and swim in all their dirty work clothes and such.

erm nope. UAQ marine club 50 Dhs entrance! RAK, Ghantoot - free entrance if you're doing water sports!

And once again, being a mod has nothing to do with my opinion! If I have something to say I will say it and you can choose to agree or not as the case maybe and contribute or not! Beside I have nothing to do with this section, so counts even less. Stop moaning!

Plus haven't we ALL AGREED that fines and wanrings for ANYONE who misbehaves should be implemented? I think we have!

I disagree with segregation! Oh wait that still happens here aswell 'members only' clubs still exist!

Chocoholic wrote:erm nope. UAQ marine club 50 Dhs entrance! RAK, Ghantoot - free entrance if you're doing water sports!

And once again, being a mod has nothing to do with my opinion! Beside I have nothing to do with this section, so counts even less. Stop moaning!

Plus haven't we ALL AGREED that fines and wanrings for ANYONE who misbehaves should be implemented? I think we have!

I disagree with segregation! Oh wait that still happens here aswell 'members only' clubs still exist!

err..so if someone IN DUBAI wants to go to a beach, they gotta drive all the way to UAQ?? wow, that is such awesome logic!! seriously, you must be eating a lot of fish lately cause ur brain sure is working at over capacity!!!

Let me rephrase this for you: the problem is of dubai-based labourers going to beaches in dubai and harassing people of dubai. how do you propose you solve this dubai problem WITHOUT GOING OUTSIDE THE BORDERS OF THE EMIRATE OF DUBAI?

We are not arguing about the fines; we're arguing about you being silly enough to bring up Ghantoot and UAQ as an option for DUBAI people! lol im still shaking my head in disbelief!!!

lol i can just imagine it:
"hey dad, take us to the beach!"
"ok junior"

30 minutes later

"we'll be in UAQ soon junior, we're stuck in the National Paints flyover..we'll be there shortly!"

45 minutes later

"Sorry son, we're just getting into UAQ now, 5 more minutes!!"

30 more minutes driving around UAQ's "roads"

"F**k it son, we dont really need the beach do we?"


yea, great option there!! hahahahah go to UAQ for the beach hahahahahah

as for segregation..um..members only clubs are PRIVATE establishments; they are free to do as they please since there is no law stopping an establishment from being selective in their clientèle !

Actually I got to UAQ or Ghantoot several time a week, it really doesn't take that long, but then I do watersports so fine for me. I'm not a sit on the beach a toast type.

Dealt with the issue for years on end now, there are ways and means as have been discussed extensively.

'Members Only' clubs are not necessarily private. Rock Bottom is a MO club, as is the Outside Inn in Ajman, there are many places that still have this sign, which basically means 'white westerners' only, everyone else is paying a premium or is barred entry!

But my personal opinio is that no-one should be barred from anywhere. I believe so long as people behave in a socially acceptable manner that everyone has the right to enjoy the same things. And if they can't behave then they should be punished. And that as they say is that!

Chocoholic wrote:Actually I got to UAQ or Ghantoot several time a week, it really doesn't take that long, but then I do watersports so fine for me. I'm not a sit on the beach a toast type.

'Members Only' clubs are not necessarily private. Rock Bottom is a MO club, as is the Outside Inn in Ajman, there are many places that still have this sign, which basically means 'white westerners' only, everyone else is paying a premium or is barred entry!

I have been going to UAQ since i was born; ive had family living there since the mid 60's and i still go to visit them about 2 or thrice a month, i know exactly how far UAQ is and to say that it doesnt take long to get there is an understatement. that is ONLY applicable when there is no traffic between Dubai - Sharjah and throughout Sharjah itself. This problem MAY have eased off with the expansion of the 611 all the way to UAQ, but that was only a 3-4 weeks ago and it actually adds about 20km to the trip overall. So yea, the main point is: suggest alternatives in DUBAI, and not in a place thats 50km (UAQ) or 100km (RAK) away from it.


As for P R I V A T E (do you comprehend the difference between PRIVATE and PUBLIC????) beaches, they are free to do whatever they want. a PRIVATE beach is managed by a company, which is responsible to its owner to produce a profit; this owner may deem an MO policy to be more profitable, so thats the route he/she will take!!! a PUBLIC beach is NOT entrusted to turn up a profit and is designated to serve..the PUBLIC..and its up to the PUBLIC to behave themselves otherwise they will have to deal with the LAW.

Now, do you understand what the difference between PRIVATE and PUBLIC is? Because i could have SWORN that ive mentioned it several times already and you still keep mixing it up.

Private: profit-making, can carry out whatever policy it wants to actually make a profit (as long as it doesnt break the law)

Public: non-profit establishment aimed to serve the needs of the general population or a special segment thereof.

get it?[/u]

Nothing left to say on the matter. You're just being argumentative now, which serves no purpose. I;ve expressed my opinion. Take it or leave it.

End of!

PFft i like how u keep trying to say "end of" and "tahts that" and still come back for more!!

Im not being argumentative! im just trying to figure out how is it possible that you cant understand the difference between a public entity and private entity, and the concept/purpose of a beach ! its just.. baffling to say the least!

Why ban? If people want to show their skin, so why they blame to others. workers have the same eyes which other people may have. May be your best friend staring you most internally rather than a worker.

It's not baffling, andf yes I know very well the difference, you just don't comprehend my point of view which once again is:

But my personal opinion is that no-one should be barred from anywhere. I believe so long as people behave in a socially acceptable manner that everyone has the right to enjoy the same things. And if they can't behave then they should be punished. And that as they say is that!

Really this time, end of.

showing ur skin at the beach is much different than showing ur skin on the street or inside a mall or by a school or around a mosque.

well actually your opinion was that those who want to fondle themselves should continue to do so and those who do not wish to be the subject of attention for such fondlers should take a hike 100km up north to a beach where they can be alone..for a while..before even more fondlers show up.

uh huh

So now you're going to change topic? True, but girls wearing g-strings which resemble cheesewire and don't cover anything is not acceptable on the beach! - the public ones or the private ones! I don't want to see that in any situation thanks very much!

whats wrong with girls wearing g-strings that resemble cheesewire!!

man oh man, i need to come to dubai more often!

Calm down kids, what we really need is a mid-range beach where you pay an entrance fee of lets say 50-60 dhs (affordable, yet high enough to keep unwanted people in) with decent facilities like a pool, showers, changing rooms, snack bar and the beach could make extra income by offering water sports or fishing trips (a la Ghantoot).

TeddyBear wrote:Calm down kids, what we really need is a mid-range beach where you pay an entrance fee of lets say 50-60 dhs (affordable, yet high enough to keep unwanted people in) with decent facilities like a pool, showers, changing rooms, snack bar and the beach could make extra income by offering water sports or fishing trips (a la Ghantoot).

and the one in AbuDhabi

TeddyBear wrote:Calm down kids, what we really need is a mid-range beach where you pay an entrance fee of lets say 50-60 dhs (affordable, yet high enough to keep unwanted people in) with decent facilities like a pool, showers, changing rooms, snack bar and the beach could make extra income by offering water sports or fishing trips (a la Ghantoot).

It's widely available but tend to be for families only. What's the issue?

Funny how Chock calls US argumentative. Hmmmm

Red Chief wrote:It's widely available but tend to be for families only. What's the issue?

Really, which one? (serious)

TeddyBear wrote:Really, which one? (serious)

I live in Sharjah. So the nearest from me is Coral Beach Hotel: 4*, pool with cooling water, 2 water slides for kids, brown bachelors are not allowed at any charge.

LOL nice suggestion Chief. See I knew there were other cheapo or free palces where you can avoid the problem. You just have to look a little.