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Troubled times in Denmark/Europe.
Any Danes post on here? Is it really that bad?


http://www.cphpost.dk/component/content ... ?task=view

In case 'answer came there none' to your question, I deal with a lot of Danes in business and could ask them, but I'd just first off say I doubt this is of any consequence at all.

Hells Angels are a small but publicised community in many countries. They don't represent the feelings of a nation, and media (newspapers, etc.) will highlight them if they are in need of a story to fill a boring day.

As this article says, Hells Angels nowadays are heavily involved with organised crime, certainly Mafia connected, and other links as well. If there is a 'turf war' going on in a city (Copenhagen maybe?) between various criminal factions (including Hells Angels) with Muslim organised criminals involved (which certainly exist in the West, just as Chinese Triad, Jamaican Yardie, and the rest do), then this doesn't have a great effect on life as a whole. Just like the ongoing gang wars in London don't really affect the vast majority of citizens there, only those unfortunate enough to live in the generally deprived areas where it mostly occurs.

It would be of benefit to the Hells Angels to stir up public sentiment against Muslims in general, to help them weaken the hold of Muslim gangs on their turf.
This dumb article in the Copenhagen Post would seem to give them the limelight they love....

That's my take anyway.

For a translation of the Jackal Manifesto, go here:

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2009/ ... festo.html

Reading it you can see that it's a 100 pct anti Muslim immigrant pamphlet, yet the Angels' spokesman in the Copenhagen Post says that it is 'neither racist nor aimed at people of a certain skin colour or religion'. Amazing stuff.

Also take a look at the links down the left hand side of the website and see just what kind of people like to be affiliated with this stuff. Our own 'chevalier' dickhead would be proud...(our very own western British Arab style moron).

Speedhump wrote:For a translation of the Jackal Manifesto, go here:

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2009/ ... festo.html

Reading it you can see that it's a 100 pct anti Muslim immigrant pamphlet, yet the Angels' spokesman in the Copenhagen Post says that it is 'neither racist nor aimed at people of a certain skin colour or religion'. Amazing stuff.

Also take a look at the links down the left hand side of the website and see just what kind of people like to be affiliated with this stuff. Our own 'chevalier' dickhead would be proud...(our very own western British Arab style moron).

I read the first few alinea's of this manifesto and what immediately gets my attention is the same type of writing that is used by the highly intellectually Unabomber manifesto.

Remember that guy?

Anyway, this phenomenon is nothing new in most countries. Every country has some sort of splintergroup that safeguards their communities from threats with baseball bats.

Either way, the way the manifesto describes the critics on their motives is the same in the way the Unabomber did it. Check this:

The Jackal Manifesto is not to be considered a derision of people with a certain tone of skin or a particular religion, nor is it a derision of the animal whose name is being used. Some self-righteous individuals will probably think of it in that way — peace be upon them, and then leave the victimization to them. No, the Manifesto is to be thought of as a usable tool for understanding those individuals who through threats, terror and violence hold innocent Danes, children, young and older, of all races and both genders, in an iron grip of fear. Last, but not least, this term should be used to counter the spiritual depravity of racism.

They explain themselves very elaborately which indicates that these fellow are not just morons. They stand for something they believe in. Thats even more scary...

Lets just hope that this fraction remains small.

Speedhump wrote:For a translation of the Jackal Manifesto, go here:

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2009/ ... festo.html

Reading it you can see that it's a 100 pct anti Muslim immigrant pamphlet, yet the Angels' spokesman in the Copenhagen Post says that it is 'neither racist nor aimed at people of a certain skin colour or religion'. Amazing stuff.

Also take a look at the links down the left hand side of the website and see just what kind of people like to be affiliated with this stuff. Our own 'chevalier' dickhead would be proud...(our very own western British Arab style moron).

HaHa you idiot.... dickheads are useful just ask your sister and your mom

you crossdressing sodomite

You really need a psychiatrist quickly, or did you try and it did no good? Even your countrymen(women) here think you're just a batteryless dildo.

They explain themselves very elaborately which indicates that these fellow are not just morons. They stand for something they believe in. Thats even more scary...

Lets just hope that this fraction remains small.[/quote]



That is exactly why I think this is something to observed.

The Hells Angels are a Global franchise that would do nothing without the American bosses say so. This could become policy throughout Europe.

Not exactly large enough to form a political party.....you can see they are already starving for members, hence the tract being published.

They only try to whip up public opinion, and there are plenty of other extrmist groups, right/left, christian/muslim already trying to do that.

Although yes. during times of global chaos extremist groups always do better, because much dumb public opinion thinks extreme solutions will cure all, without seeing ahead to the end result.

RobbyG wrote:

Speedhump wrote:For a translation of the Jackal Manifesto, go here:

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2009/ ... festo.html

Reading it you can see that it's a 100 pct anti Muslim immigrant pamphlet, yet the Angels' spokesman in the Copenhagen Post says that it is 'neither racist nor aimed at people of a certain skin colour or religion'. Amazing stuff.

Also take a look at the links down the left hand side of the website and see just what kind of people like to be affiliated with this stuff. Our own 'chevalier' dickhead would be proud...(our very own western British Arab style moron).

I read the first few alinea's of this manifesto and what immediately gets my attention is the same type of writing that is used by the highly intellectually Unabomber manifesto.

Remember that guy?

Anyway, this phenomenon is nothing new in most countries. Every country has some sort of splintergroup that safeguards their communities from threats with baseball bats.

Either way, the way the manifesto describes the critics on their motives is the same in the way the Unabomber did it. Check this:

The Jackal Manifesto is not to be considered a derision of people with a certain tone of skin or a particular religion, nor is it a derision of the animal whose name is being used. Some self-righteous individuals will probably think of it in that way — peace be upon them, and then leave the victimization to them. No, the Manifesto is to be thought of as a usable tool for understanding those individuals who through threats, terror and violence hold innocent Danes, children, young and older, of all races and both genders, in an iron grip of fear. Last, but not least, this term should be used to counter the spiritual depravity of racism.

They explain themselves very elaborately which indicates that these fellow are not just morons. They stand for something they believe in. Thats even more scary...

Lets just hope that this fraction remains small.

Interesting comparison with the Unabomber. Strongly rationalised and explained motives, yes. But clearly also a minority opinion. It's only in countries with a relatively low population or complete economic collapse that this kind of thing might actually have a small chance to succeed I think. Very small. It's happened before of course

Speedhump wrote:

RobbyG wrote:

Speedhump wrote:For a translation of the Jackal Manifesto, go here:

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2009/ ... festo.html

Reading it you can see that it's a 100 pct anti Muslim immigrant pamphlet, yet the Angels' spokesman in the Copenhagen Post says that it is 'neither racist nor aimed at people of a certain skin colour or religion'. Amazing stuff.

Also take a look at the links down the left hand side of the website and see just what kind of people like to be affiliated with this stuff. Our own 'chevalier' dickhead would be proud...(our very own western British Arab style moron).

I read the first few alinea's of this manifesto and what immediately gets my attention is the same type of writing that is used by the highly intellectually Unabomber manifesto.

Remember that guy?

Anyway, this phenomenon is nothing new in most countries. Every country has some sort of splintergroup that safeguards their communities from threats with baseball bats.

Either way, the way the manifesto describes the critics on their motives is the same in the way the Unabomber did it. Check this:

The Jackal Manifesto is not to be considered a derision of people with a certain tone of skin or a particular religion, nor is it a derision of the animal whose name is being used. Some self-righteous individuals will probably think of it in that way — peace be upon them, and then leave the victimization to them. No, the Manifesto is to be thought of as a usable tool for understanding those individuals who through threats, terror and violence hold innocent Danes, children, young and older, of all races and both genders, in an iron grip of fear. Last, but not least, this term should be used to counter the spiritual depravity of racism.

They explain themselves very elaborately which indicates that these fellow are not just morons. They stand for something they believe in. Thats even more scary...

Lets just hope that this fraction remains small.

Interesting comparison with the Unabomber. Strongly rationalised and explained motives, yes. But clearly also a minority opinion. It's only in countries with a relatively low population or complete economic collapse that this kind of thing might actually have a small chance to succeed I think. Very small. It's happened before of course

Its true that economic conditions trigger a blaming attitude in communities. But I think this goes beyond that. We had it in Holland also in the 1970's I believe it was. There were these community people that were so fed up with the appalling behaviour of certain immigrants from Suriname and the Dutch Antillean islands that they formed battlegroups to fight them in the weekends.
There was great rivalism among them. I recall the stories from my father in his adolescence period, where you could set your clock on a weekly fight.

Even today we have huge problems with immigrants from Marocco. They are a minority group but they behave like gods in Holland, laying their self pity upon the normal residents by engaging in battering, streetfights in weekends, taxiwars, molestation and worse criminal behaviour. Numbers indicate they are clearly present in society. And they spoil it for the good Marroccan immigrants. Thats sad I think.

So either the government does something about its weak policy, or the community will eventually solve it themselves...but as you probably know; it takes a long time for politicians to listen to their constituents and many of us just rather use action instead of talking words like politicians do.

Basically, in Denmark the government is rather socialist (correct me if I'm wrong) and they have a modern open policy towards immigrants (refugees) so nothing to be expected from these politicians. The logic result would be to form an illegal splinter group and do something to protect your own communities for certain safety issues involving them in a wealthy society.

Hamas and Fatah are basically the same type of groups.

It would be nice if we had some Danes here to opine. There are quite a few around in Dubai...none on DF??