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Concerns have been rising that Netanyahu could launch a strike on Tehran’s atomic program, in the same way that Israel hit Saddam Hussein’s Osirak reactor in 1981. Israel has been preparing for such an eventuality. It has carried out long-distance maneuvers and is due to hold its largest civil defense drills this summer. The country’s leaders reportedly told Panetta that they did not "intend to surprise the U.S. on Iran."

chevaliers-de-sion wrote:Concerns have been rising that Netanyahu could launch a strike on Tehran’s atomic program, in the same way that Israel hit Saddam Hussein’s Osirak reactor in 1981. Israel has been preparing for such an eventuality. It has carried out long-distance maneuvers and is due to hold its largest civil defense drills this summer. The country’s leaders reportedly told Panetta that they did not "intend to surprise the U.S. on Iran."

Tension is rising indeed in that region.

Its not a coincidence that the UAE is loading and ordering in massive amounts of defensive weapons in times of financial crisis (around the world, but also its own budget is under stress). The Nuclear deal is of utmost importance of this. This allows the US to intervene when Iran comes to close the nuclear facilities. Another insurance policy from the US to keep regional influence

Its a matter of time when we have another oil crisis. The longer the barrel stays below $80 dollars, the more this region is heating up for an Hormuz strait lockdown from Iran and the political domino's around it.

RobbyG wrote:Nuclear

Always always forget to worry about the leakage, which may kill more, than a war.

Nice map Robby..

With all the bicycles in Holland, you guys will be least affected when the next oil crisis hits.

I strongly believe that Netaniahu will not rush to attack the nuclear facilities.
There is too much at stake' and our airforce is not omnipotent, as some
may consider. The best way to protect the region is to sanction Iran
and hurt it financially.
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acrostichos wrote:I strongly believe that Netaniahu will not rush to attack the nuclear facilities.
There is too much at stake' and our airforce is not omnipotent, as some
may consider. The best way to protect the region is to sanction Iran
and hurt it financially.
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How about we put sanctions on Israel and its nuclear weapons and other WMD it makes. or about restrictions on Israeli technology. hmmm maybe if Isreal put down its arms, Iran will follow.

to be honest with you am sick and tired of hearing ISREAL AND IRAN. Just get over and done with it. blow each other up so we can live peacefully.

fact is both of them dont have the balls

RobbyG wrote:The longer the barrel stays below $80 dollars, the more this region is heating up for an Hormuz strait lockdown from Iran and the political domino's around it.
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Which of Iran's massive naval fleets are they going to send to lock down the Hormuz Strait? Won't the US 5th Fleet or whichever is here now have something to say about that?

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsMaps ... 8K20090520

There are 18,000 naval personnel. The navy has its headquarters at Bandar-e Abbas. Iran's navy has three Russian Kilo class submarines, three frigates and two corvettes.

-- As of 2001 the regular Iranian navy was in a state of overall obsolescence, and in poor shape because they had not been equipped with modern ships and weapons. The readiness of the three frigates is doubtful, and the two nearly 40-year-old corvettes do not have sophisticated weapons.

-- In late 2007 Iran launched a new locally made submarine and a navy frigate named as Jamaran. Jane's Defense Weekly has reported that Iran was also building missile-launching frigates copied from 275-tonne Kaman fast attack missile craft originally purchased from France in the late 1970s.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Re ... _Iran_Navy

The Iranian Navy has traditionally been the smallest branch of Iran's armed forces and is designed solely for securing its own ports and coast, with little in the way of striking power.

rudeboy wrote:

acrostichos wrote:I strongly believe that Netaniahu will not rush to attack the nuclear facilities.
There is too much at stake' and our airforce is not omnipotent, as some
may consider. The best way to protect the region is to sanction Iran
and hurt it financially.
אקרוסטיכוס הישראלי

How about we put sanctions on Israel and its nuclear weapons and other WMD it makes. or about restrictions on Israeli technology. hmmm maybe if Isreal put down its arms, Iran will follow.

to be honest with you am sick and tired of hearing ISREAL AND IRAN. Just get over and done with it. blow each other up so we can live peacefully.

fact is both of them dont have the balls

So u can switch off to National geogrpahic channel and enjoy yourself with birds and dolphins.

Just to remind u, Israel is having its nuclear weapons for over 40 years and never used it, even in its hardest wars.
Can u guarrantee that Iran won't use it either? It seems that the Arab leaders can't,
otherwise , why are they so anxious with this isuue?

I think it's ironic, that everyone is so very concerned about a country that secretly and illegally developed nuclear weapons ... even figured out a way to sidestep any inspections, but goes around b1tching about another country in the Middle East that might be developing nuclear weapons. Additionally, Israel has not only threatened Iran with a nuclear strike, but has basically already drawn up the plans for it.


Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and United Nations’ Resolutions

"Israel was originally expected to sign the 1968 Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and on 12 June 1968 Israel voted in favor of the treaty in the UN General Assembly. But when the invasion of Czechoslovakia in August by the Soviet Union delayed ratification around the world, Israel's internal division and hesitation over the treaty became public. The Johnson administration attempted to use the sale of 50 F-4 Phantoms to pressure Israel to sign the treaty that fall, culminating in a personal letter from Lyndon Johnson to Israeli PM Levi Eshkol. But by November Johnson had backed away from tying the F-4 sale with the NPT after a stalemate in negotiations, and Israel would neither sign nor ratify the treaty.] After the series of negotiations, US assistant secretary of defense for international security Paul Warnke was convinced that Israel already possessed nuclear weapons. In 2007 Israel sought an exemption to non-proliferation rules in order to import atomic material legally.

In 1996 the United Nations General Assembly passed a resolution calling for the establishment of a nuclear-weapon-free zone in the region of the Middle East. Arab nations and annual conferences of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) repeatedly have called for application of IAEA safeguards and the creation of a nuclear-free Middle East. Arab nations have expressed their that the United States practices a double standard in criticizing Iran's nuclear program while ignoring Israel's possession of nuclear weapons. According to a statement by the Arab League, Arab states will withdraw from the NPT if Israel acknowledges having nuclear weapons and then does not open its facilities to international inspection and destroy its arsenal.

In a statement to the May 2009 preparatory meeting for the 2010 NPT Review Conference, the U.S. delegation reiterated the longstanding U.S. support for "universal adherence to the NPT," but uncharacteristically named Israel among the four countries that have not done so. An unnamed Israeli official dismissed the suggestion that it would join the NPT and questioned the effectiveness of the treaty. The Washington Times reported that this statement threatened to derail the ...

40-year-old secret agreement between the US and Israel to shield Israel's nuclear weapons program from international scrutiny,

... while Avner Cohen, author of Israel and the Bomb, argued that acknowledging its nuclear program would allow Israel to take part constructively in efforts to control nuclear weapons."

Speedhump wrote:http://www.reuters.com/article/newsMaps/idUSTRE54J38K20090520

There are 18,000 naval personnel. The navy has its headquarters at Bandar-e Abbas. Iran's navy has three Russian Kilo class submarines, three frigates and two corvettes.

-- As of 2001 the regular Iranian navy was in a state of overall obsolescence, and in poor shape because they had not been equipped with modern ships and weapons. The readiness of the three frigates is doubtful, and the two nearly 40-year-old corvettes do not have sophisticated weapons.

-- In late 2007 Iran launched a new locally made submarine and a navy frigate named as Jamaran. Jane's Defense Weekly has reported that Iran was also building missile-launching frigates copied from 275-tonne Kaman fast attack missile craft originally purchased from France in the late 1970s.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Re ... _Iran_Navy

The Iranian Navy has traditionally been the smallest branch of Iran's armed forces and is designed solely for securing its own ports and coast, with little in the way of striking power.

Babe...princess....naggy

One Sejil-2 missile aimed at a supertanker passing the straits is enough to hold shipments from passing...(short term)

Sure, the US will be escorting the supplies, but remember that 40 percent of the worlds daily oil passes through the Hormuz straits.

$200 dollar a barrel in about....a week of trading???

A lockdown is not necessarily a complete naval blockade.
Show of force might trigger enough crisis mode in the current global downturn. I think if Iran loses stability, that some nasty things could happen. Unless they have some sanity left in the regime...

''A lockdown is not necessarily a complete naval blockade.''

You're just talking about disruption, major or minor. That's not a lockdown.

I'll be naggy...picky...

Speedhump wrote:''A lockdown is not necessarily a complete naval blockade.''

You're just talking about disruption, major or minor. That's not a lockdown.

I'll be naggy...picky...

There is some shit left between your ears SH.
Go scrub yourself

D*ck! The 'tasty' is in my ears, from all your chatter