Red Chief wrote:Bora, to be frank I don't understand your attack on me. This tread is about specific arogant English view on WWII. I inserted a collage from a folder of a documantary, I had just bougt. Somebody, who are not familiar with the war, could understand that Churchill won both Germans and Russians.
By the way there are no faces neithe Rusvelt nor Eisenhauer on this collage.
Your view is always one-sided, it is not just UK historians who are angry that Putin is trying to get Russia to believe that they won the war singlehanded. It belittles the parts all other countries played, which is shameful and insulting, and it is purely for political ends. Every damn war film the US make shows them winning the war singlehanded too.
You deny that every country likes to read about or watch their own part in the war, yet crow because your smallbrained but arrogant (for sure) Putin is now doing the same, and you bring up a picture of some cheap DVD (that you don't even name and that is probably little use historically) as though it is significant and proves something.
By the way, you didn't even mention the point that Stalin is portrayed alongside Hitler with a snarling face, insinuating that he was an enemy, whereas during the war he was an uneasy ally (which broke up as soon as the war finished, for good reason). So the DVD you found somewhere and keep banging on about is of no use at all in a sensible discussion. Shame on you!
Without the massive input of US transport (brought by UK naval convoys) your troops would have been fighting against an enemy who was able to mobilise every part of their army (including supply chain logistics) more quickly. In such circumstances weight of numbers can mean very little, especially in deep winter, which you would know if you ever really had examined military tactics. So the fact that you had more men/weapons probably would have counted for nothing as they would be without ammunition, food, everything, due to the Russian army being wholly supplied by horse and cart!
And you know very well how impotant morale is to troops, if both Stalingrad and Moscow had fallen ussian soldiers would have been totaly demoralised, their fighting spirit would have been crushed. Do you know how demoralised troops fight? Don't you know how to incude these factors in your thinking?
Read some accounts from real soldiers about these things and how they work.
Come on, try to look at a bigger picture than you see so far. All you are doing so far is counting heads and saying that everyone else is arrogant apart from Russia, it's childish.
