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May 27, 2009
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WhiteJade wrote:SH, I got it.

There are things:

1. you just love to talk about;
2. you just love to talk bad about (ok, you don't talk bad about things, you just happen to have a list of their bad aspects)
3. you choose to ignore.

Here's another stuff you can write an essay on:

Munich Agreement



All I did was respond to a prod. Why do you attack me?



Come on Ivan, let's get out of here before you do some damage.

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MCL,
I'm sorry for hijacking your thread. DF has been so boring recently.:) I added some pepper.
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Red Chief wrote:MCL,
I'm sorry for hijacking your thread. DF has been so boring recently.:) I added some pepper.


No dude don't apologize. Just keep it going. I find the two of you to be very informative and highly entertaining :)
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May 27, 2009
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WhiteJade wrote:SH, I got it.

There are things:

1. you just love to talk about;
2. you just love to talk bad about (ok, you don't talk bad about things, you just happen to have a list of their bad aspects)
3. you choose to ignore.

Here's another stuff you can write an essay on:

Munich Agreement



All I did was respond to a prod. Why do you attack me?

The Munich Agreeent was made between several European leaders to try to prevent a war in Europe. Hitler broke the terms of the agreement by an act of aggression against another European power, the British Government were shamed (as were France and Italy), and Britain then correctly declared war in defence of Europe. I have no idea what your point is. You 'got' nothing!


It was not an attack. It's an opinion. You've yours and I've mine.

Munich Agreement, which agreed Germany to take charge of an area that belonged to Czechoslovakia was signed without the presence of Czechoslovakia. It was an ugly deal. You have to admit that.

1. you loved to talk about the Great Britain's efforts to save herself and other countries during WWII;
2. you listed captured Soviets betraying their motherland. Yeah you were just telling true history.
3. you choose to ignore that RC's post was mostly about him knowing some about what happened in Asia during WWII.

That's what I got.


Sudetenland belonged to Germany until WW1. They wanted it back and yes obviously the Czechs would not want to give it to them. The idea of the agreement with or without the agreement of the current 'occupiers' of th Sudentenland was to prevent a war in Europe, did I explain that? I did not say it was correct as it was appeasement policy only.
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Jade you clearly missed the main point of his post which was two attacks on 'people here' who exaggerate Britain's role in WWII. In case you have no idea, he was talking about me. That was his point dear, you missed it entirely by just readng his post at face value. Never a good idea with him!
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Speedhump wrote:Jade you clearly missed the main point of his post which was two attacks on 'people here' who exaggerate Britain's role in WWII. In case you have no idea, he was talking about me. That was his point dear, you missed it entirely by just readng his post at face value. Never a good idea with him!


I think his history precedes him. When isn't he attacking someone?

The problem is that too many people comment on the most recent couple of posts, rather than reading the thread from the beginning.

Actually SH, I think the worm is slowly turning if you get my drift.
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So gloomy face, Speedy. Be positive!!!
8) 8) 8)
Changes? Yes, we can.
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Red Chief wrote:Speedy, even British Arab applies some source in case of citation. Why don't you, Brave Colonel, do that?

All you wrote here are some dreams of the same colonels as you or random citation. It looks like "Memoirs of Geisha" as the last evidence for the WWII.

I was talking about some "Memorandums" or "Projects of agreement".

It could be right if Hitles had some feeling to the British as nation, but actually UK was his permanent enemy.


Look as I said I am not here to educate you. The facts I stated are widely known, if you would like to do your own research you will find them, I know you are an able internet user.

Blumentritt was a German not a British officer, that's a start for you.
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Red Chief wrote:So gloomy face, Speedy. Be positive!!!
8) 8) 8)
Changes? Yes, we can.


Me gloomy??? NEVER?? :D

I have the Dunkirk Spirit.... :P

Quote: 'How do you keep that pre-war feeliing?' :D :D
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Speedhump wrote:Jade you clearly missed the main point of his post which was two attacks on 'people here' who exaggerate Britain's role in WWII. In case you have no idea, he was talking about me. That was his point dear, you missed it entirely by just readng his post at face value. Never a good idea with him!


I think his history precedes him. When isn't he attacking someone?

The problem is that too many people comment on the most recent couple of posts, rather than reading the thread from the beginning.

Actually SH, I think the worm is slowly turning if you get my drift.


Bora if you read this thread from the beginning your head will spin, it has taken a few turns.... :P
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Red Chief wrote:MCL,
I'm sorry for hijacking your thread. DF has been so boring recently.:) I added some pepper.


No dude don't apologize. Just keep it going. I find the two of you to be very informative and highly entertaining :)


Our Chief of Staff has something like Attention Deficit Disorder...he finds it hard going if there isn't a lively ' debate' somewhere! :D

Liken it to a mind with a snowstorm continually raging inside, it needs strong stimulation or it doesn't function! 8) :lol:

No offence to the brave captain!
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Cheif, I am pressed for time today, we can carry on tomorrow if you need to. read the following, it is th quote from the german general's journal:

http://www.virtuemag.org/articles/hitle ... unkirk-why

on May 24th, 1940, while the campaign was still in progression, Hitler expressed a deeper, more political motive, to members of Field Marshal Gerd von Rundstedt’s staff. This was reported by General Blumentritt to Liddell Hart, and I feel it is necessary to quote extensively from Blumentritt’s narrative:

“Hitler was in a very good humor, he admitted that the course of the campaign had been ‘a decided miracle,’ and gave us his opinion that the war would be finished in six weeks. After that he wished to conclude a reasonable peace with France, and then the way would be free for an agreement with Britain.

“He then astonished us by speaking with admiration of the British Empire, of the necessity for its existence, and of the civilization that Britain had brought into the world. He remarked, with a shrug of the shoulders, that the creation of its Empire had been achieved by means that were often harsh, but ‘where there is planing, there are shavings flying.’ He compared the British Empire with the Catholic Church, saying they were both essential elements of stability in the world. He said that all he wanted from Britain was that she should acknowledge Germany’s position on the Continent. The return of Germany’s lost colonies would be desirable but not essential, and he would even offer to support Britain with troops if she should be involved in any difficulties anywhere. He remarked that the colonies were primarily a matter of prestige, since they could not be held in war, and few Germans could settle in the tropics.

“He concluded by saying that his aim was to make peace with Britain on a basis that she would regard as compatible with her honor to accept.”

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QUOD ERAT DEMONSTRANDUM.
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Speedhump wrote:Jade you clearly missed the main point of his post which was two attacks on 'people here' who exaggerate Britain's role in WWII. In case you have no idea, he was talking about me. That was his point dear, you missed it entirely by just readng his post at face value. Never a good idea with him!


I think his history precedes him. When isn't he attacking someone?

The problem is that too many people comment on the most recent couple of posts, rather than reading the thread from the beginning.

Actually SH, I think the worm is slowly turning if you get my drift.


Bora if you read this thread from the beginning your head will spin, it has taken a few turns.... :P


Oh, I did read it and it was kept on track until there were two useless comments by one person (the worm slowly turning), and the deliberate diversion by the other, who admitted the hijacking, which has not been his first, but is quick to pounce on someone else when he doesn't like the direction a thread is taking. If someone is bored and wants to debate then they should take that time and educate themselves to at least give an intelligent argument.

Hats off to you, you are a very patient man.
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May 27, 2009
Speedy, I has been really interested in this issue after very informative post of Dubai Knight in that notorious thread.

It isn't so easy but there is some thuth beneath your post. No real facts though.

See you tomorrow.
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Speedhump wrote:In case you have no idea, he was talking about me.


Oops I apologize for breaking in on the flirting between you two.

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Oops I apologize for breaking in on the flirting between you two.

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Don't apologize, WhiteJade. He really does have no idea how huge Chinese casualties were. Moreover he doesn't care...
Unfortunately there are a lot of such Speedies on DF. :(
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It is truly pathetic of you to say that I don't care how many Chinese died in WWII. You are a very shabby excuse for a human. Why should I not care, if you read any of my posts apart from the ones where I have to take you apart brick by brick you would see that I am an intelligent caring person and treat all people the same. That will be apart from you of course.

So finally it is shown that you are in fact as biased and hating a person as you seemed to me at the start. A shame, I won't waste any more time talking to you apart from to annoy you Trotsky.
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RobbyG wrote:You two could be really good friends you know that :lol:


No he's finally shown his true xenophobic colours yet again. I forgive and forget for anyone once, but not twice.
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Speedhump wrote: Why should I not care, if you read any of my posts apart from the ones where I have to take you apart brick by brick you would see that I am an intelligent caring person and treat all people the same. That will be apart from you of course.

Speedy, it was not about caring person. It was mostly about island mentality in common. I used to think that you make some arrogant statements deliberately but later I understood that you don't even notice the tone of them. At the other hand you are not alone, even DK made such statement in his polemic with tough guy Muslimbangladeshi, although DK's another statements were clearer and more honest than yours (I don't want to insult). Without me all those statements passed through because as a rule locals and South Asian are not interested in WWII. One day I made my tone softer because you were at least absolutely honest.

The last post only sounds a little bit tougher because IMHO W. Jade don't need to apologize at all, even as a joke. Probably I overreacted a bit, because WWII is not only history for me. What wrong did I say? You didn't know even approximate casualties of SU, your ally in the War in Europe, in that thread, so I was not waiting for your knowledge about China. At the other hand you have good knowledge about all, even insignificant fights, in which UK or its colonies participated.
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Oops I apologize for breaking in on the flirting between you two.

:lol:


Don't apologize, WhiteJade. He really does have no idea how huge Chinese casualties were. Moreover he doesn't care...
Unfortunately there are a lot of such Speedies on DF. :(


It's ok. I was just playing.

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Speedhump wrote:It is truly pathetic of you to say that I don't care how many Chinese died in WWII. You are a very shabby excuse for a human. Why should I not care, if you read any of my posts apart from the ones where I have to take you apart brick by brick you would see that I am an intelligent caring person and treat all people the same. That will be apart from you of course.

So finally it is shown that you are in fact as biased and hating a person as you seemed to me at the start. A shame, I won't waste any more time talking to you apart from to annoy you Trotsky.


Bad asses never declare they are nice people.

That's what so charming about them.

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RobbyG wrote:You two could be really good friends you know that :lol:


No he's finally shown his true xenophobic colours yet again. I forgive and forget for anyone once, but not twice.


How can you be so sure that you are the one to forgive rather than to be forgiven?
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Speedhump wrote: Why should I not care, if you read any of my posts apart from the ones where I have to take you apart brick by brick you would see that I am an intelligent caring person and treat all people the same. That will be apart from you of course.

Speedy, it was not about caring person. It was mostly about island mentality in common. I used to think that you make some arrogant statements deliberately but later I understood that you don't even notice the tone of them. At the other hand you are not alone, even DK made such statement in his polemic with tough guy Muslimbangladeshi, although DK's another statements were clearer and more honest than yours (I don't want to insult). Without me all those statements passed through because as a rule locals and South Asian are not interested in WWII. One day I made my tone softer because you were at least absolutely honest.


I'm sorry you are the arrogant one. You believe you know the inner thoughts of everyone who writes here. Also you NEVER offer facts, only criticism of others, in an attempt to provoke anger and argument, while pretending that you are not.

The last post only sounds a little bit tougher because IMHO W. Jade don't need to apologize at all, even as a joke. Probably I overreacted a bit, because WWII is not only history for me. What wrong did I say? You didn't know even approximate casualties of SU, your ally in the War in Europe, in that thread, so I was not waiting for your knowledge about China. At the other hand you have good knowledge about all, even insignificant fights, in which UK or its colonies participated.


What, did you take some sort of a quiz recently on WII so you can reel off statistics about casualties, dates, and all the rest for every nation? What is your problem? And those that don't have the facts in the front of their minds therefore have no feelings for people of other nationalities who died? How stupid and ignorant that thinking is. I didnt see one single fact from you, only attacks on other people. That, my friend, is boorish arrogance of an unsurpassed degree. Thinking that you can just come here and ask other people to display their knowledge while offering none yourself (for obvious reasons).



You seem to feel that these forums only exist to have stupid arguments, and so you 'add pepper' (your own childish words) by attacking people. You feel that these forums used to be 'more interesting', I presume you mean that there aren't so many people now who will engage in your ridiculous wars. Well I have had enough of them for sure, I wish more people would speak up and say that these fights which you start (and they are not just with me) are spoiliing proper discussion.
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Speedhump wrote:It is truly pathetic of you to say that I don't care how many Chinese died in WWII. You are a very shabby excuse for a human. Why should I not care, if you read any of my posts apart from the ones where I have to take you apart brick by brick you would see that I am an intelligent caring person and treat all people the same. That will be apart from you of course.

So finally it is shown that you are in fact as biased and hating a person as you seemed to me at the start. A shame, I won't waste any more time talking to you apart from to annoy you Trotsky.


Bad asses never declare they are nice people.

That's what so charming about them.

:roll:


So now we know you like pretty looking bad boys. And the point is?

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RobbyG wrote:You two could be really good friends you know that :lol:


No he's finally shown his true xenophobic colours yet again. I forgive and forget for anyone once, but not twice.


How can you be so sure that you are the one to forgive rather than to be forgiven?


I thought you wanted to debate the Munich Agreement. if you do then it's your turn.
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Red Chief wrote:You didn't know even approximate casualties of SU, your ally in the War in Europe, in that thread


Show me where this was true or otherwise I will have to call you MR FACTLESS from now on, as you have never once replied to a single polite request of mine in any thread to prove your comments about what I have said (as your comments have always been untrue and unfair).

Over to you Pushkin, tell me a story.
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Every nation?
China and Russia together lost 45-50 million people, much more than the rest of the World combined... It's the fact, not so significant of course as "Miracle in Dunkirk".

You can see W.Jade that I was absolutelly right.
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Speedhump wrote:It is truly pathetic of you to say that I don't care how many Chinese died in WWII. You are a very shabby excuse for a human. Why should I not care, if you read any of my posts apart from the ones where I have to take you apart brick by brick you would see that I am an intelligent caring person and treat all people the same. That will be apart from you of course.

So finally it is shown that you are in fact as biased and hating a person as you seemed to me at the start. A shame, I won't waste any more time talking to you apart from to annoy you Trotsky.


Bad asses never declare they are nice people.

That's what so charming about them.

:roll:


So now we know you like pretty looking bad boys. And the point is?

:roll:


My point is: do not make lame declarations that you are a nice person while you are attacking people. When you attack, you are showing your dark side. Just be comfortable with it.
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Speedhump wrote:It is truly pathetic of you to say that I don't care how many Chinese died in WWII. You are a very shabby excuse for a human. Why should I not care, if you read any of my posts apart from the ones where I have to take you apart brick by brick you would see that I am an intelligent caring person and treat all people the same. That will be apart from you of course.

So finally it is shown that you are in fact as biased and hating a person as you seemed to me at the start. A shame, I won't waste any more time talking to you apart from to annoy you Trotsky.


Bad asses never declare they are nice people.

That's what so charming about them.

:roll:


So now we know you like pretty looking bad boys. And the point is?

:roll:


My point is: do not make lame declarations that you are a nice person while you are attacking people. When you attack, you are showing your dark side. Just be comfortable with it.


I don't attack, I defend. You are so stubborn you refuse to see that the attack is from the other side always, goading and prodding about the 'Englishness' that Trotsky hates so much. I have every right to stomp on him for his xenophobia. It doesn't mean I hate Russians. Just one of them.

I am nice, I know it, so do many people. I tip toilet attendants, I thank street workers, I give to charity. I hold doors open for men and women alike. But I dislike ignorant boorish people. The two are not mutually exclusive, can you really not understand that?

Can you plase stop commenting on my posts unless you have some factual statement to make, because you are rapidly turning into Trotsky's sock puppet. Thanks.
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Red Chief wrote:Every nation?
China and Russia together lost 45-50 million people, much more than the rest of the World combined... It's the fact, not so significant of course as "Miracle in Dunkirk".

You can see W.Jade that I was absolutelly right.


Haha, he has finally found an ally. Be happy together.

Oh, by the way Mr Factless, it's too late to start quoting figures now. You lost when you couldn't show that I 'didn't know' this fact. :D
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