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Bora Bora wrote:The both of you seem to always lose the plot and wander off somewhere that only the two of you know about.

What are you talking about regarding the French visa? Or were you talking about the requirements to obtain the passport? If you are an expat and work in France speaking French is not a requirement nor do you have to go through a battery of tests or procedures. Nor do you need the speak French to get a travel visa and again no tests are required; procedures are submitting documentation requesting a visa.

And are you saying that the UAE should expel expats because "they are taking over the jobs"? I am sure you are aware of the fact that there are more jobs than locals in Dubai, so expats are needed.

I am not going to continue to point out the obvious to you.

sage & onion wrote:

dee7o wrote:

naruto wrote:

dee7o wrote:

uaekid wrote:

worldguy wrote:they will when the value of the oil starts to drop and they will need expat money to run the show. Otherwise the rich emiratis will just move to Europe or US and leave the rest behind.

This is a serious issue with this place and if they really want UAE to progress than they need to give talent a consideration. They could start by giving citizenship to doctors, scientist, R&D specialist ... otherwise the base will stay weak.

Secondly they need to ensure that locals do not get jobs on platter. Otherwise, they are just creating locals to be less competitive to expats. This is apparent from stories running in various news papers, re why locals do not want to work in private sector.

Currently the government is sharing their wealth with locals by making them come to work rather than sit at home.

This is a serious issue with this place and if they really want UAE to progress than they need to give talent a consideration. They could start by giving citizenship to doctors, scientist, R&D specialist ... otherwise the base will stay weak.

yes yes and yes but what they are doing now is sending the upoard local students toUS,UK and Aus to study those fields, an approximate of 100 locals graduate a year, small number but it is a start. and no more business studies.


Secondly they need to ensure that locals do not get jobs on platter. Otherwise, they are just creating locals to be less competitive to expats. This is apparent from stories running in various news papers, re why locals do not want to work in private sector.

disagree here, locals worked in or started working in privet business but the pay is just not enough. 5000-8000 just won't do it

If locals were integrated into the private sector and entered it like anyone else then I would say fine. Instead Dubai has quotas forcing people to hire locals. This is in spite of the fact that all ethics of HR and recruiting used all over the world should not discriminate by race, gender, religion, etc. Besides if 5000-8000 just "won't do it" for locals, why are there people here still being paid 700 dhs per month?
I defend Dubai when defence is due and I have had my share of arguments with ppl on this forum who will attest to that but you can't call a pineapple a hedgehog and expect people to respect your opinion. Defending your country is one thing but denying its biggest faults even exist is plain hypocrisy that only sets your country backwards.

woow hold on ..
who said that locals are denying the GOV. faults ..the thing is we dont like it when some1 who didnt live in the country to come and point fingers on us about ..you know the term mind you own business..
im not refering to expact who live here ..im refering to so called RObby G..and yes i agree with the GOV. when they enforced the privet company to hire local , can u beleive that more than 50,000 locals are unemployed here in the land of opportinities , in the land where ppl with no education can become specialist in mejor fileds, the problem is with the privet company they give hight salary to some nationalities and they want to give locals less than them, plus they are hiring indians like locals do not exisit anymore..explain to me why we have a high rate on unemployment akthough we bring expact to work in our country..

Do you have any idea why 50,000 locals are unemployed? You yourself say it's the land of opportunities, so why? Please don't tell me people don't employ locals because they have a bad image about them. Even if that were true, why don't locals employ locals?!?!?! It's not for lack of business owners, that's for sure

Where do you get your numbers from?

naruto wrote:http://www.arabrenewal.org/articles/150 ... OYIE1.html

i will do the math for you
0.05*950,000=47500..approximatly ..

sage & onion wrote:

Bora Bora wrote:I guess one good example is the locals that Al Fattim (sp?) let go during the bit redundency a few months ago, and they went to court and because of that employment laws were changed.

Why so many don't want to work? Welfare mentality. Why should I get out of bed and work when all I have to do is go to the bank and make sure the government deposited my monthly stipend. Or: all the government jobs are taken.

The government placement office: Over 10,000 registered and many have probably been registered since the office opened 8 years ago. Very, very few get placed. But there are those few who take training courses and take a job knowing that they will have to work and learn in order to succeed. Most don't even show up for arranged interviews.

To be honest, with the example of Al Futaim that you gave, if you had your own Company who would you employ?

Bora Bora wrote:

sage & onion wrote:

Bora Bora wrote:I guess one good example is the locals that Al Fattim (sp?) let go during the bit redundency a few months ago, and they went to court and because of that employment laws were changed.

Why so many don't want to work? Welfare mentality. Why should I get out of bed and work when all I have to do is go to the bank and make sure the government deposited my monthly stipend. Or: all the government jobs are taken.

The government placement office: Over 10,000 registered and many have probably been registered since the office opened 8 years ago. Very, very few get placed. But there are those few who take training courses and take a job knowing that they will have to work and learn in order to succeed. Most don't even show up for arranged interviews.

To be honest, with the example of Al Futaim that you gave, if you had your own Company who would you employ?

I think they were given an opportunity and failed to deliver on it. I have seen/worked with locals who are ambitious and those who could care less. And for those who cared less they were probably physically there so that they could get their monthly gratuity from the government as their reward for working.