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uaekid wrote:Dubai new code of conduct check it out
http://uaesm.maktoob.com/up/uploads/6f8ab77275.pdf
herve wrote:is death by stoning still legal in the UAE? it may be never applied, but i read that it is still in the law.
Is it true that fathering a children without being married can land a couple in prison?
rudeboy wrote:herve wrote:is death by stoning still legal in the UAE? it may be never applied, but i read that it is still in the law.
Is it true that fathering a children without being married can land a couple in prison?
your posts just show how you hate UAE and its ppl. would anyone be interested in reading your book knowing that it is biased?
RobbyG wrote:
Let it go and discuss our differences like a multiculti
herve wrote:is death by stoning still legal in the UAE? it may be never applied, but i read that it is still in the law.
Is it true that fathering a children without being married can land a couple in prison?
uaekid wrote:Dubai new code of conduct check it out
http://uaesm.maktoob.com/up/uploads/6f8ab77275.pdf
Speedhump wrote:herve wrote:is death by stoning still legal in the UAE? it may be never applied, but i read that it is still in the law.
Is it true that fathering a children without being married can land a couple in prison?
And how about France then?
http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/france
Big Government. Small Brains. Dumb Laws.
Between the hours of 8AM and 8PM, 70% of music on the radio must be by French artists.
It is illegal to kiss on railways in France.
No pig may be addressed as Napoleon by its owner.
It is illegal to take photos of police officers or police vehicles, even if they are just in the background.
It is forbidden without a cemetery plot to die on the territory of the commune.
So what does that prove? Laws still exist on statute books all over the world that won't be enforced any more, they are there just because there's no actual need to repeal them. I'm happy to live in Dubai, a country where public drunkenness and lewd behaviour are acted on by police. What's wrong with some morality?
I completey agree with RedHawk's recent posts. You came here without full disclosure of your past, they found out you had been a spy, that's YOUR BAD, and any treatment that befell you after that can only be viewed in that light. Once you have been a spy, no-one can ever trust you again (even the people you spied for), and anyone that even talks to you must see you as a potential threat especially when you are dealing with business at the very highest level.
herve wrote:Speedhump wrote:herve wrote:is death by stoning still legal in the UAE? it may be never applied, but i read that it is still in the law.
Is it true that fathering a children without being married can land a couple in prison?
And how about France then?
http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/france
Big Government. Small Brains. Dumb Laws.
Between the hours of 8AM and 8PM, 70% of music on the radio must be by French artists.
It is illegal to kiss on railways in France.
No pig may be addressed as Napoleon by its owner.
It is illegal to take photos of police officers or police vehicles, even if they are just in the background.
It is forbidden without a cemetery plot to die on the territory of the commune.
So what does that prove? Laws still exist on statute books all over the world that won't be enforced any more, they are there just because there's no actual need to repeal them. I'm happy to live in Dubai, a country where public drunkenness and lewd behaviour are acted on by police. What's wrong with some morality?
I completey agree with RedHawk's recent posts. You came here without full disclosure of your past, they found out you had been a spy, that's YOUR BAD, and any treatment that befell you after that can only be viewed in that light. Once you have been a spy, no-one can ever trust you again (even the people you spied for), and anyone that even talks to you must see you as a potential threat especially when you are dealing with business at the very highest level.
Morality? bravo that is the best one of this forum.
i saw first hand my Emirati' partners and friends , maried with 4 wives and cheating EVERY single day with prostitutes. and the poor wives have to swallow it. try that in the free world you get divorced. liquor stores with Emirati's customers, is not it that alcohol is forbiden?
as far as laws, Dubai is a facade, behind its glitter it shows anachronistics laws, not dumb laws, medievalistic laws, ruthless, there is a difference in ever getting a ticket for taking pictures of a french cop (never heard of) and being flogged because you slept with your girl frienD.
Hypocrisy, when having children out of marriage can land a couple straight to jail, but Sheikh Mohammed with 17 children i find hard to beleive he had 16 of them with only one wife. so he is above the law and can jail a british couple for a french kiss at the beach while he does what he wants and jail anyone who would report it. For anyone here, should you know that by Emirati law, a "french kiss " is considered s..e.x... Dubai, like Miami, no way, more like Ryad.
by the way is it moral to kidnap little boys and force them to be camel jockeys.
In France, in the US or anywhere else, no one confiscates your passport, even if you are sued.
The UAE is the last country in the world to give any lessons of morality
tell me what this guy was doing in a liquore store, i busted him with my camera. morality....please try something else, you are going to make everybody laugh.
ah, if i could be blocked from this forum, that would make your day. the truth is disturbing.
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RobbyG wrote:You mean: the truth is enlightening (for an open minded person)
Nothing better than a good portion of reality.
herve wrote:Agreed , Flogging is not applied by the UAE courts, but it is still in the law, same as death by stoning. the UAE did not abolish it.
i understand the UAE set their own standards and laws, it is perfectly normal, the fraud is when the UAE advertise itself as an opened society to attract tourist and investors money, because it is not.
the UAE should make it clear, for instance that a non married couple can go to jail for 6 months, that a cheating wife or husband can go to jail for 18 months, while Emirati's cheat on their multiple wives with prostitutes, you know it, you know i know it, i have seen first hand.
The UAE should warn that you can go to jail if you miss 2 car payments.
The UAE should warn that the police sometimes torture people or threaten them that if they dont sign a confession, they will be tortured. one of these days i am going to have my recording on FOX news, and i would like to see your face when everyone listen to it and realizes that indeed the UAE condones torture. great that day when i walked in that police station with a concealed recorder (just in case), what a slap in their face, now i got the whole interrogation on tape, the cop now is probably keeping camels outof sight somewhere in the desert.
the Dubai gov knows i have it, and it is in a safe location.
The full transcript of the interrogation is in my book for everybody to see.
What is it with this spy obession, a spy is an extension of a government, spies dont go around on their own, they act upon orders from the highest authorities of a Government. so vent you hatred to the french government, not me. I am sure you are not that naive to beleive that the UAE does not have spies, but are those ok with you? yes or no?
the law suit for child slavery against Sheikh Mohammed was settled in november 2008, it is not that far years ago. what he did was the worst form of slavery and he got caught. child slavery was banned only because and after he got caught by the international society. not before.
i invite here anyone to visit the liquore stores and you will see, that kandourahs are certainly not a minority or isolate.
in the free world a passport is taken away only in case of conviction, in the UAE a simple delation is enough. before conviction. in the UAE you are guilty until proven guilty.
in the US, if you owed $200,000$ to someone, your passport would NOT be taken away. you see the difference. so say what you want, but tell poeple how it works before they come to Dubai, so they can make the decision to work somewhere else and not be lured under false pretense.
herve wrote:Agreed , Flogging is not applied by the UAE courts, but it is still in the law, same as death by stoning. the UAE did not abolish it.
i understand the UAE set their own standards and laws, it is perfectly normal, the fraud is when the UAE advertise itself as an opened society to attract tourist and investors money, because it is not.
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Speedhump wrote:RobbyG wrote:You mean: the truth is enlightening (for an open minded person)
Nothing better than a good portion of reality.
Robby get a grip. I'm very openminded but also a huge cynic. I believe that this book, just like all the others like it claiming to 'lift the lid' off something or other always end up being very little fact and a huge stuffing of hearsay and conjecture (made up or theorised stuff, or 'it happened to someone else but I heard about it').
The vast majority of expats in the UAE life normal lives, they work, earn money, get away with breaking a few laws (as do some of the locals), this guy really wants to hurt them all and hurt the UAE because of his own stupidity.
He had to escape from Dubai purely because he had made some very powerful people very angry with his deception. Powerful people all over the world ignore the laws and do what they want. This isn't new.
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RobbyG wrote:Speedhump wrote:RobbyG wrote:You mean: the truth is enlightening (for an open minded person)
Nothing better than a good portion of reality.
Robby get a grip. I'm very openminded but also a huge cynic. I believe that this book, just like all the others like it claiming to 'lift the lid' off something or other always end up being very little fact and a huge stuffing of hearsay and conjecture (made up or theorised stuff, or 'it happened to someone else but I heard about it').
The vast majority of expats in the UAE life normal lives, they work, earn money, get away with breaking a few laws (as do some of the locals), this guy really wants to hurt them all and hurt the UAE because of his own stupidity.
He had to escape from Dubai purely because he had made some very powerful people very angry with his deception. Powerful people all over the world ignore the laws and do what they want. This isn't new.
My grip is superb.
Every story has got two sides. The 'simple' expats live their life in a reasonable secure company environment and entrepreneurs are mostly 'einzelgangers' that are strong negotiators that either succeed or fail. They endure more hardhip in the efforts they put out. Herve has his experience which he writes in a book. Totally plausible.
I understand you being a cynic. I'm one of the strongest around too, but I know there's more behind this story. Muslim culture is not really the most open society for everyone. As UAE kid put it recently to me, that we (the West) are the worst of cultures and he does not want to open up to it. (Biased as hell).
Its clear that some people are so focussed on themselves and their own situation that they lose conscience about what really happens below the 'dream' surface or better said 'rosebed'. Every rosebed has thorns hiding beneath it. Just face it and you'll come out as a more complete person.
I actually have a firm believe in Herve Jaubert's story as he simply has a history which is intriguing. Doesn't make it true, but I'm willing to read his book before making to much critical arguments (like you tend to do upfront) and therefore I put my opinion out AFTER I read his book. In the mean time, I try to find plausibility to read (buy) his book. I'm convinced he has a story worth reading!
Every word you say without backing it with facts of Herve's experiences, is simply a biased view and as such a weakness from you Speedhump.
Just read the book and critize afterwards. I think our societies are somewhat further in our freedom (and I'm being easy with my expression here) and you can learn a lot by simply facing the truth and open up your minds.
"What a person doesn't know, will not hurt him."
herve wrote:speedhump, you will read my book, you dont have to say it though, but you are burning to read it, what you dont want is everybody else to read it, they might find some reasons to avoid Dubai and avoid Emirati's, but that you cant say.
so you got a dilemma here, how tell people not to read a book if you have not read it for yourself, or tell people to read it because you dont care anyways, but if you did not care then you would not be spewing your venom here.
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RobbyG wrote:Actually, I never read books from 'one day writers'. But this one looks very interesting, as Herve was a close initial allie of the Sheikh and his following.
In my article on my website recently, I also wrote about the Sheikh Mo reinstalling the Diwan (royal court) after recognizing that giving power to his lieutenants outside his family and tribal inner-circle makes transparacy hard to see for the outer world. So Herve could be under scrutiny of those people instead of the 'real honest government' bodies.
Anyway, I want to read his book as my critic arguments about the book and Herve's experience must be based on what he says in the book. Not just coming from a few rosegarden locals that sit on goverment payrolls. You understand? I like to be informed from different sides of the game just to avoid making the biggest mistake of my life by moving to a society where I can get locked for life.
I'm thorough in such matters. And Herve has an interesting case. I dont mind if he makes a few dimes (read millions) from his books. There are more people who've done it with less interesting topics....US octuple mom