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Ah, the exuberance of youth!

OK, lets do a little 'mammalian attraction' class 101 shall we?

Yes, a female is attracted by certain aspects of a male and, like the animal kingdom, the male is expected to put on a 'display' (Think peacocks, rutting stags, birds of paradise etc etc...) on the understanding that a female will select a male under the following first impression categories:

1. That his display is big enough for the female to believe that he has strong genes to pass on to any offspring
2. That the male is strong enough to protect the female from the advances of any other male
3. The male can provide for the female the things she needs (a nest, security, strong offspring)

In the human instance, this would normally follow a set course based on our now more complex mating dance.

1. Visual attraction - is he hot looking, well dressed (peacock display) and the right V shape (broad shouldered, narrow hipped)
2. Chemical attraction - Both obvious and subliminal (does his smell attract and are those pheromones working!)
3. Mutual Attraction - when she communicates with him, is there a point of common interest or does he bore her
4. Does he follow the complicated set of mating rules we have (he says and does all the right things)

These triggers fire off pysiological reactions in both parties that you can do nothing to control:
1. Increased heart rate
2. A flush to the face and erogenous zones
3. Dilated pupils
4. A surge of adrenaline
5. A rush of blood to the genitalia
6. Increased secretion of pre mating fluids releasing pheromones

In a simplified environment where there are fewer males and females, these natural reactions are easier to identify and react to. In a competitive environment such as a club or bar, they are defined by who is the alpha male and who displays their feathers better. The female will notice but will also be aware of the competition and will be looking around for alternatives. She will sub-consciously be looking for the dominant male. That comes down to a display of confidence.

The first step is therefore to act with confidence.
If you see a girl who fits with your mental map as 'suitable', then don't just hover around waiting to catch her eye...just walk right up and say hi.
Smile.
A smile is the most welcoming first step and shows you are friendly
The next thing is to open the conversation...don't try any cheesy pick up lines! She is bound to have heard them all before!
Compliment her. It shows that you have noticed something that she may have spent time and money specially preparing for this moment (hair, make-up, clothing choice)
Ask questions. Not dumb ones, something that shows you have an interest in her and her life. What does she do? Where is she from? Is she having a good time.

These are basics.
Once the ice has been broken, then you are free to lead the conversation in the direction you like.

The problem is the environment where this takes place. Most clubs have the music pumping so loud she is probably not going to hear what you are saying and you may struggle to hear her replies. However this can work to your advantage!

A loud environment means you have to lean close to her to make yourself understood. Close proximity allows those subliminal pheromones to work best. Your lips in her ear is a very good start!

Throughout all of this, you have sacrified nothing of who you are, not displayed any peacock tendencies and not had to resort to fake gimmicks. If there is any mutual attraction at all (there is no point in trying to push a situation if the basic attraction stimuli are not there, you will just come across as a sleaze ball trying it on) then you are free to press home the advantage and try to cut her from the crowd (this is stepping her outside her comfort zone) and woo her with your personality and wit. Not just the cheap suit and fake Rolex.

If you are serious, it is guaranteed to create a lasting relationship rather than a shallow and false premise. What would you rather have, a really good looking girlfriend who thinks the sun rises and sets in your Calvin Klein boxer shorts and will be as keen as you are for a regular series of liaisons and possibly longer term relationship with a genuine guy, or a girl who sees you in the cold light of day as a fraud and will never talk to you again and possibly reports you to the authorities for stalking her because she wont answer all your pleading texts or calls?

These are hard and fast rules and are only learned through experience and time.



Knight

Dubai Knight wrote:Ah, the exuberance of youth!

OK, lets do a little 'mammalian attraction' class 101 shall we?

Yes, a female is attracted by certain aspects of a male and, like the animal kingdom, the male is expected to put on a 'display' (Think peacocks, rutting stags, birds of paradise etc etc...) on the understanding that a female will select a male under the following first impression categories:

1. That his display is big enough for the female to believe that he has strong genes to pass on to any offspring
2. That the male is strong enough to protect the female from the advances of any other male
3. The male can provide for the female the things she needs (a nest, security, strong offspring)

In the human instance, this would normally follow a set course based on our now more complex mating dance.

1. Visual attraction - is he hot looking, well dressed (peacock display) and the right V shape (broad shouldered, narrow hipped)
2. Chemical attraction - Both obvious and subliminal (does his smell attract and are those pheromones working!)
3. Mutual Attraction - when she communicates with him, is there a point of common interest or does he bore her
4. Does he follow the complicated set of mating rules we have (he says and does all the right things)

These triggers fire off pysiological reactions in both parties that you can do nothing to control:
1. Increased heart rate
2. A flush to the face and erogenous zones
3. Dilated pupils
4. A surge of adrenaline
5. A rush of blood to the genitalia
6. Increased secretion of pre mating fluids releasing pheromones

In a simplified environment where there are fewer males and females, these natural reactions are easier to identify and react to. In a competitive environment such as a club or bar, they are defined by who is the alpha male and who displays their feathers better. The female will notice but will also be aware of the competition and will be looking around for alternatives. She will sub-consciously be looking for the dominant male. That comes down to a display of confidence.

The first step is therefore to act with confidence.
If you see a girl who fits with your mental map as 'suitable', then don't just hover around waiting to catch her eye...just walk right up and say hi.
Smile.
A smile is the most welcoming first step and shows you are friendly
The next thing is to open the conversation...don't try any cheesy pick up lines! She is bound to have heard them all before!
Compliment her. It shows that you have noticed something that she may have spent time and money specially preparing for this moment (hair, make-up, clothing choice)
Ask questions. Not dumb ones, something that shows you have an interest in her and her life. What does she do? Where is she from? Is she having a good time.

These are basics.
Once the ice has been broken, then you are free to lead the conversation in the direction you like.

The problem is the environment where this takes place. Most clubs have the music pumping so loud she is probably not going to hear what you are saying and you may struggle to hear her replies. However this can work to your advantage!

A loud environment means you have to lean close to her to make yourself understood. Close proximity allows those subliminal pheromones to work best. Your lips in her ear is a very good start!

Throughout all of this, you have sacrified nothing of who you are, not displayed any peacock tendencies and not had to resort to fake gimmicks. If there is any mutual attraction at all (there is no point in trying to push a situation if the basic attraction stimuli are not there, you will just come across as a sleaze ball trying it on) then you are free to press home the advantage and try to cut her from the crowd (this is stepping her outside her comfort zone) and woo her with your personality and wit. Not just the cheap suit and fake Rolex.

If you are serious, it is guaranteed to create a lasting relationship rather than a shallow and false premise. What would you rather have, a really good looking girlfriend who thinks the sun rises and sets in your Calvin Klein boxer shorts and will be as keen as you are for a regular series of liaisons and possibly longer term relationship with a genuine guy, or a girl who sees you in the cold light of day as a fraud and will never talk to you again and possibly reports you to the authorities for stalking her because she wont answer all your pleading texts or calls?

These are hard and fast rules and are only learned through experience and time.



Knight

ok.. the age limit and eligibility to addend this 101 class?

pempin and DK you both make sense and agree with both of you...

DK: you have confirmed what I and pempin are trying to say; you need to be confident and stand out of the crowd... regardless what method you choose you should do something makes you special...

its not rocket science, however, and unfortunately many guys just think that if he approach a strange women and she rejects him that would be the end of the world or his balls will fall down.

I know a friend who I and my friends call him a "Playboy" he hit on every other girl he might find interesting and he usually gets rejected... but you will be surprised that few other really hot women fall for him... while he is just another average guy...

Winning and losing is a part of the game!!!!!

Dubai Knight wrote:If she is more swayed by the fake than the real...then she is not worth knowing and not the one for you, no matter how good looking.

People are more shallow than a saucer in this town, the ones that stand out are the real ones. Don't follow the crowd and be a fake sheep.



Knight

Agreed. Hats up

sharfraz wrote:Winning and losing is a part of the game!!!!!

thats also true, if you risk winning then you also risk losing!

To be very honest I really don't like Russian women.

A few years ago I was waiting @ DXB airport for my friend to show up. I was talking on the cell phone asking his whereabouts when two older Russian / CIS women overheard my conversation and noted my American accented english.

They looked at me and said "what do you have" "your not white"

I totally ignored them, thinking there probably low end professionals or pimps themselves.

However, this won't deter me from procuring the services of a Russian lady! ! ! !

Who's the white man now ? heheheheheheheheheheheheheh

project3030 wrote:To be very honest I really don't like Russian women.
A few years ago I was waiting @ DXB airport for my friend to show up. I was talking on the cell phone asking his whereabouts when two older Russian / CIS women overheard my conversation and noted my American accented english.
They looked at me and said "what do you have" "your not white"
I totally ignored them, thinking there probably low end professionals or pimps themselves.
However, this won't deter me from procuring the services of a Russian lady! ! ! !
Who's the white man now ? heheheheheheheheheheheheheh

Where did you see this movie?

Dude it happened. That's why im so bitter.

Oh well, i'll just call it even when I bed a russian hooker and such is life my friend.

When im on vacation, especially in Dubai, I pursue the following:

A) Booze
B) Pot if I can find it
C) Cigarettes
D) Prostitutes
E) p<3n Movies
F) And more ............sex

I just wonder what would you think about yourself if some lady asked you: "What time is it?".
I guess such cases help you when you jerk off on the cover with Anna Kurnikova...

Dubai Knight wrote:Ah, the exuberance of youth!

OK, lets do a little 'mammalian attraction' class 101 shall we?

Yes, a female is attracted by certain aspects of a male and, like the animal kingdom, the male is expected to put on a 'display' (Think peacocks, rutting stags, birds of paradise etc etc...) on the understanding that a female will select a male under the following first impression categories:

1. That his display is big enough for the female to believe that he has strong genes to pass on to any offspring
2. That the male is strong enough to protect the female from the advances of any other male
3. The male can provide for the female the things she needs (a nest, security, strong offspring)

In the human instance, this would normally follow a set course based on our now more complex mating dance.

1. Visual attraction - is he hot looking, well dressed (peacock display) and the right V shape (broad shouldered, narrow hipped)
2. Chemical attraction - Both obvious and subliminal (does his smell attract and are those pheromones working!)
3. Mutual Attraction - when she communicates with him, is there a point of common interest or does he bore her
4. Does he follow the complicated set of mating rules we have (he says and does all the right things)

These triggers fire off pysiological reactions in both parties that you can do nothing to control:
1. Increased heart rate
2. A flush to the face and erogenous zones
3. Dilated pupils
4. A surge of adrenaline
5. A rush of blood to the genitalia
6. Increased secretion of pre mating fluids releasing pheromones

In a simplified environment where there are fewer males and females, these natural reactions are easier to identify and react to. In a competitive environment such as a club or bar, they are defined by who is the alpha male and who displays their feathers better. The female will notice but will also be aware of the competition and will be looking around for alternatives. She will sub-consciously be looking for the dominant male. That comes down to a display of confidence.

The first step is therefore to act with confidence.
If you see a girl who fits with your mental map as 'suitable', then don't just hover around waiting to catch her eye...just walk right up and say hi.
Smile.
A smile is the most welcoming first step and shows you are friendly
The next thing is to open the conversation...don't try any cheesy pick up lines! She is bound to have heard them all before!
Compliment her. It shows that you have noticed something that she may have spent time and money specially preparing for this moment (hair, make-up, clothing choice)
Ask questions. Not dumb ones, something that shows you have an interest in her and her life. What does she do? Where is she from? Is she having a good time.

These are basics.
Once the ice has been broken, then you are free to lead the conversation in the direction you like.

The problem is the environment where this takes place. Most clubs have the music pumping so loud she is probably not going to hear what you are saying and you may struggle to hear her replies. However this can work to your advantage!

A loud environment means you have to lean close to her to make yourself understood. Close proximity allows those subliminal pheromones to work best. Your lips in her ear is a very good start!

Throughout all of this, you have sacrified nothing of who you are, not displayed any peacock tendencies and not had to resort to fake gimmicks. If there is any mutual attraction at all (there is no point in trying to push a situation if the basic attraction stimuli are not there, you will just come across as a sleaze ball trying it on) then you are free to press home the advantage and try to cut her from the crowd (this is stepping her outside her comfort zone) and woo her with your personality and wit. Not just the cheap suit and fake Rolex.

If you are serious, it is guaranteed to create a lasting relationship rather than a shallow and false premise. What would you rather have, a really good looking girlfriend who thinks the sun rises and sets in your Calvin Klein boxer shorts and will be as keen as you are for a regular series of liaisons and possibly longer term relationship with a genuine guy, or a girl who sees you in the cold light of day as a fraud and will never talk to you again and possibly reports you to the authorities for stalking her because she wont answer all your pleading texts or calls?

These are hard and fast rules and are only learned through experience and time.



Knight

Ah well i am young AND exuberant, what's a man to do!

My point is that if you don't display "manly" behavior you won't get anything, so my advice to those who don't have it naturally is to learn it, this way it becomes part of who you are, not some phony act that one pulls to lure in the hot chicks. Beeing alpha will take you that much further in life, would it be with women, money, or any situation where power is involved.

By the way, clubs are the worst place to pick up in my opinion, its smoky, hot, people are intoxicated with alcohol, and women usually have this ice wall up because they expect losers to come on to them, making it even harder for the "good guys". I prefer an environment where women are more comfortable with me and where I see them regularly, which allows me to build a bond and work the magic slowly but surely. I always believed that when it comes to women, you can never go in too slow, only too fast.

Nice essay though D. Knight! everything you said was on target, it all comes down to what you really want and how competitive you are I guess!

Keep on pimpin'!

Khaled

And what you said about pick up lines is so true, the man who invented them should be sent to the guillotine! Pick up lines make you look like a loser who has no personality, unless said as a tease/joke in a manner that the woman knows you're not serious.

Surprisingly, the most efficient way to break the ice is to walk up to a woman with a warm/slightly cocky smile and tell her something like "Hi, I saw you passing by and i knew i'd regret it if I didnt come and introduce myself" or something like "hi, i noticed you were checking me out, so I thought id come introduce myself and make it easier for you". Simple, gutsy, refreshing, women love it. Of course, different situations call for different tactics, but you get my point.

The average man also makes the mistake of sticking around wayyyyyy too long once they get some interest from the girl. I personally make small talk for a few minutes, pick up the phone number, and then I'm outta there. Same thing with the phone. Always LEAVE FIRST, as the old adage goes, always leave 'em wanting more!

Most Russian girls look cold and unaproachable. That's just how they look. The ones that live or visit Dubai are quite desperate meeting people from other countries. And a genuine smile and a hello will go a long way. You'll be surprised.

maximusprime wrote:So I popped into this cigar bar yesterday and the girl behind the counter is friggin GORGEOUS! like cant take my eyes off her gorgeous, like tongue dragging the ground, mumbling gibbirish, hold on a sec while i go... well, you get the idea.

Anyway, she's russian (or of some other equally unaproachable eastern european descent). She is like one of those girls in James Bond films who would just as soon kill you as they would rock your world.

How does one hit on a girl like this? She must know she has it going on. She is stone cold and very challenging to talk to (also her english aint that great), New challenge or lost cause?

man just two months ago u were complaning how ur infidelity hurt u..... now u r planning for one again.......

i know this person absolutely awesome

call him and he will set you up, price are great as well; Ibrahim

971508098646
971506760033

Need someone honest in dubai, i am looking for a girlfriend,,

Then don't look here this is not a dating forum

Hulahula wrote:Then don't look here this is not a dating forum

non of your business to reply such things and judge if you have nothing useful to him.

well you wont find anyone honest here...

i dont know about you guys but, Russians in Dubai are hanging out usually with "Customers", or with very rich men that worth the efforts of smiling as one cold species of humans.

a friend of mine tought me the basics of russian langauge, it gets their attention for sure ! what happens after that depends on your luck !!

rich men!!!
sounds shallow to me

it is ... what you expect from a million dollar looking babe? to hang out with some indian ? not a chance... only rich men .. every body in dubai knows that ... i see them at work all time just like that ...

come on they just getting advantages of being pretty women... meanwhile in Russia itself they are just as normal as any woman over there, any ways i'm into black hair and eyes stuff, kinda i am into the original blood, their look its just cold to me, they let u feel there's something seksy in the air but your heart still at the same place,, lol

you got that right, persian girls kick their ass any way ...

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