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Many verses of the Bible make reference to the "three day and three night" prophesy (Matthew 20:19...etc.). Christian scholars themselves make mention of several cases throughout the Bible where people have put words in Jesus' mouth (see chapter two). They also recognize many passages of the Bible as being of a questionable nature. However, let us simplify this matter a little in order to make it easier to recognize the tampering fingerprints of the unscrupulous. Let us start with the assumption that no human being ever added or removed a single word from the Bible and move on from there. Please try to stay with me on this and you will see how only a very small amount of logic will prove that Jesus (pbuh) never said these words:
You would be hard pressed to find a single Christian today who has not heard of the "three days and three nights" prophesy. Where do they get it from? They get it from "the Gospel of Matthew." What does it say? If we read Matthew 12 we will see how the Jews were giving Jesus (pbuh) no end of trouble. They were constantly doubting him and refusing to accept him. They had seen countless signs of his prophethood but insisted on disbelieving. Finally they ask him for a sign of his prophethood. How does Jesus (pbuh) allegedly respond to this request? Does he draw their attention to his healing of the lepers and the blind? No. Does he draw their attention to his casting out of devils? No. Does he point out his raising of the dead? No. Does he mention any of his other countless miracles? No. Well, what does he say? He says:
"But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth"
Matthew 12:39-40
In effect, Jesus (pbuh) was claimed to have put all of his eggs in one basket. He was telling them that "NO" sign shall be given to them "BUT" the sign of Jonas. This ONE sign shall ALONE decide who is truthful, him or those who doubted him. This shall be the "be all end all" acid test of his truthfulness.
Now, what is "Good Friday"? "Good Friday" is the day Christians tell us Jesus (pbuh) was crucified. In Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary (tenth edition), it is defined as "the Friday before Easter observed in churches as the anniversary of the crucifixion of Christ." This is also confirmed by the Bible:
"And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the Sabbath"
Mark 15:42
So the Bible tells us that Jesus (pbuh) died on Friday, just before nightfall.
According to the Bible, the Jews had been carting Jesus (pbuh) back and forth on "Good Friday" between Pontius Pilate and Harod trying to get a conviction and official sanction to crucify him. After all of this carting back and forth, they finally get him to the cross and hang him up on it. However, no sooner have they gotten him up on the cross than they are in a hurry to get him back down again. Why is that? It is because they believed that if he remained on the cross all night then he would defile their land.
"And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree: His body shall not remain all night upon the tree, but thou shalt in any wise bury him that day; (for he that is hanged is accursed of God;) that thy land be not defiled, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance."
Deuteronomy 21:22-23
So the Jews begged Pilate to break Jesus' legs so that he would die quickly from suffocation:
"The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the Sabbath day, (for that Sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.."
John 19:31
About the sixth hour (twelve noon), Jesus is claimed to be in front of Pilate (John 19:14). According to the Bible (e.g. John 19:30), Jesus died around the ninth hour (three PM). During these three hours Jesus was dressed in purple with a crown of thorns and made fun of, spat on, abused and beaten, and then made to carry the cross to the location of his execution (John 19:17), the cross was planted in the ground, he was hung up on it, his title was written in Hebrew, Greek and Latin on the cross, lots were cast and his clothes distributed, he spoke to one of the two thieves and to an apostle, many people passed before him and rebuked him, he was given something to drink, and he died, all of which took place in these three hours, and his legs were never broken. After that there was thunder, an eclipse, and an earthquake, the veil of the temple was rent in twain, and the dead came out of their graves. Jesus (pbuh) was then let down and placed in the shroud and the tomb. Early Sunday morning (the first day of the week according to the Jews), while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene visits the tomb alone (Mark 16:9, John 20:1) and finds the stone moved and Jesus (pbuh) missing. Let us count:
Event....................................Days...................... Nights
"Good Friday "......................... - ....................... one
Saturday (the sabbath).............one ..................... one
Sunday morning...................... - ......................... -
Total...................................... one day................ two nights

As you can see, it is impossible to add up the days and nights so that they equal "three days and three nights." Assuming that Jesus (pbuh) waited until just before the arrival of Mary to leave the tomb, the Bible tells us that Jesus (pbuh) was in the ground for ONE day and TWO nights. Has the prophesy been fulfilled? Has the ONE "be all end all" sign to the Jews been established?
Further, it is important to remember that Jonah was swallowed alive by a whale and remained in its belly alive for three days. His miracle was not that the whale swallowed him, nor that it swallowed him whole, nor yet that he remained in it's belly for three days (If I eat a piece of food and it remains in my stomach for three days, is this a "miracle"?). The miracle of Jonah was that HE DID NOT DIE. For Jesus to have properly fulfilled the prophecy, he would need to enter the tomb alive and come out alive just as Jonah entered the whale's belly ALIVE and came out of it's belly ALIVE. Why should Jesus give this of all signs if he was to die and be resurrected? Where is the "miraculous" similarity with the miracle of Jonah?

The authors of the Koran tell us plainly, in several areas, that Jesus Christ died and was singularly resurrected three days later.....sura 86, and sura 89, for example...

No way

Apple Pie No way, Impossible, Nohow and Unthinkable

Your Lyings is Known even for people who dont have any small idea about islam...


The authors of the lyings on the Koran ( Mr. Apple Pie ) tell us plainly, in several areas, that Jesus Christ died and was singularly resurrected three days later.....


The Quran tell us plainly, As the verses reveal, The unbelievers plotted and moved to kill Jesus. However, their plot failed and they ended up killing a look-alike. During this event, God raised Jesus up to His presence:

And [on account of] their saying: "We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Messenger of God." They did not kill him and they did not crucify him, but it was made to seem so to them. Those who argue about him are in doubt about it. They have no real knowledge of it, just conjecture. But they certainly did not kill him. God raised him to Himself. God is Almighty, All-Wise. (Surat An-Nisa', 4:157-158)

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hifriend223 wrote:Apple Pie No way, Impossible, Nohow and Unthinkable

Your Lyings is Known even for people who dont have any small idea about islam...


The authors of the lyings on the Koran ( Mr. Apple Pie ) tell us plainly, in several areas, that Jesus Christ died and was singularly resurrected three days later.....


The Quran tell us plainly, As the verses reveal, The unbelievers plotted and moved to kill Jesus. However, their plot failed and they ended up killing a look-alike. During this event, God raised Jesus up to His presence:

And [on account of] their saying: "We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Messenger of God." They did not kill him and they did not crucify him, but it was made to seem so to them. Those who argue about him are in doubt about it. They have no real knowledge of it, just conjecture. But they certainly did not kill him. God raised him to Himself. God is Almighty, All-Wise. (Surat An-Nisa', 4:157-158)

Here : Download The Holy Quran [Free] - (in 10 different languages)

http://www.islamway.com/SF/quran/

Let's take a look at this islamic one-hit-wonder...

4.157


وقولهم إنا قتلنا المسيح عيسى ابن مريم رسول
الله وما قتلوه وما صلبوه ولكن شبه لهم وإن
الذين اختلفوا فيه لفي شك منه ما لهم به من علم
إلا اتباع الظن وما قتلوه يقينا

Waqawlihim inna qatalna almaseeha AAeesa ibna maryama rasoola Allahi wama qataloohu wama salaboohu walakin shubbiha lahum wa-inna allatheena ikhtalafoo feehi lafee shakkin minhu ma lahum bihi min AAilmin illa ittibaAAa alththanni wama qataloohu yaqeenan

4.157 And their saying: "Certainly we killed The Messiah, Jesus, Mary's son, “allah's” messenger”, and that they killed Him, and that they crucified Him, and certainly they alike, and certainly whom they followed in Him, certainly they (are) not in doubt from Him, on account of Him, from knowledge, except to follow the belief, and that they surely killed him.



This is the quintessential Islamic ayah used by Muslims in an attempt to thwart Jesus’ crucifixion, until death, upon the Cross.

This ayah has been misinterpreted and promoted as a crucifixion denial, when, in fact, it is a Biblical confirmation that Jesus’ crucifixion, and death, upon the Cross, actually did take place.

Rendering 4.157 as a crucifixion denial, forces the Koran into contradiction with itself.


4.157 contains a plethora of positive affirmations, including “wama”, and leaves no doubt in the mind of the reader that Jesus was killed upon the Cross.



Observe this most revealing term, from 4.157, used in reference to Jesus Christ…




اختلفوا = “ikhtalafoo”

“ikhtalafoo” definition:

Masculine plural. They followed, or succeeded one another; whenever one went, another coming after him. The going, or moving repeatedly to and fro; so coming and going; or reciprocating. The returning, or repairing, time after time, or repeatedly, or frequently to a person or place; because it implies coming and going; and sometimes it means simply the returning; because this cannot be without a previous going. They disagreed in a thing or an affair or a case; every one of them took to, or held a way, or opinion, different from or contrary to that of another; both signify the same.

It comes from the root “khahafa”, which means he came after, followed, succeeded, or remained after another or another that had perished or died. He, a man, retired, withdrew, or went away or apart. He fled. He ascended a mountain; to succeed, take the place of, be the agent, substitute of. A substitute; a thing given, or received, or put, or done, instead of, in place of, or in exchange for, another thing. Difference of any kind.

References:
An Arabic-English Lexicon, E.W. Lane, volume two, pp. 792 - 799
The Dictionary of the Holy Qur’an, 1st edition, Abdul Mannan Omar, pp. 162 - 163



Here we have a solid-gold confirmation that Jesus indeed died on the Cross, as the root confirms that His followers remained after He died on the Cross!

Further, the root also confirms to us that Jesus was the sin substitution for mankind!



Further still, we have a clause (flanked by “ma”), which can be rendered as a negative adverb confirming that there is “no doubt” about the crucifixion of Jesus Christ…



شك = “shakkin”

“shakkin” definition:

Doubt; a wavering or vacillation in opinion between two things, whether they be equal in probability or such that one of them outweighs therein the other; or uncertainty; or a wavering or vacillation in opinion between two inconsistent things without making either of them to outweigh the other in the estimation of him who conceives the doubt; a pausing or hesitation between two extremes that are equal in probability without the mind’s inclining to either of them. Alternation or confusedness of two inconsistent things, in the judgment of a man, and their being equal. A state of commotion or disturbance of the heart and mind. A small crack in a bone. A seam, or line of sewing, of a garment. Arsenic. A covering that is put upon the backs of the two curved extremities of the bow.

It comes from the root “shakka”, which means the thing, or case, or affair, was, or became, dubious, or confused. He doubted, wavered or vacillated in opinion, or was uncertain respecting it. Said of a camel, he limped or halted; or had a slight lameness of his hind leg: or his arm stuck to his side, and he had a slight lameness in consequence thereof. The cleaving or sticking of a thing to another thing. I pierced, or transpierced him, or it, with a spear, and with the arrow. He was made, or asserted to be connected with the lineage of another.


References:
An Arabic-English Lexicon, E.W. Lane, volume four, pp. 1582 - 1583
The Dictionary of the Holy Qur’an, 1st edition, Abdul Mannan Omar, p. 297



Amazing as it is, the root of this word gives us further insight that Jesus was pierced in the side – same as declared in the Holy Bible.

وما قتلوه
وما صلبوه


wama qataloohu means : They did not kill him
wama salaboohu means : They did not crucify him


Its very clear
Apple Pie you have to visit a doctor for your eyes

Applepie - your reverse psychology posts are excellent! Well done.

It is a very good way to get people to study the Quran and understand what it is saying. May Allah bless you in your efforts to bring people to Islam.

Wasalaam,
Shafique

But does it really matter in this day and age? I mean aren't there bigger things to worry and concern ourselves with? Just a thought.

hifriend223 wrote:وما قتلوه
وما صلبوه


wama qataloohu means : They did not kill him
wama salaboohu means : They did not crucify him


Its very clear
Apple Pie you have to visit a doctor for your eyes

Pay close attention to this ayah, which has not one, not two, not three, but four instances of “wama”…


Qooloo amanna biAllahi wama onzila ilayna wama onzila ila ibraheema wa-ismaAAeela wa-ishaqa wayaAAqooba waal-asbati wama ootiya moosa waAAeesa wama ootiya alnnabiyyoona min rabbihim la nufarriqu bayna ahadin minhum wanahnu lahu muslimoona

2.136 Yusuf Ali

Say ye: "We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam)."


Observe that Yusuf Ali chose NOT to render “wama” as a negative in four out of four instances.


Thus, according to the flawed Islamic mindset that has been applied to 4.157, then this ayah should read…


Say ye: "We believe in Allah, and NOT the revelation given to us, and NOT Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and NOT given to Moses and Jesus, and NOT given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam)."


What else do you want to try...?

Apple Pie i told you to visit the opthalomlogist ...

"We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Messenger of God." They did not kill him and they did not crucify him, but it was made to seem so to them. Those who argue about him are in doubt about it. They have no real knowledge of it, just conjecture. But they certainly did not kill him. God raised him to Himself. God is Almighty, All-Wise. (Surat An-Nisa', 4:157-158)

What means :

157. That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

158. Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-


وما قتلوه
وما صلبوه


wama qataloohu means : They did not kill him
wama salaboohu means : They did not crucify him

The translation Depends on the sentens

Its very clear


Apple Pie here is a small test for you :

Part (1)
1-What is the different between Meet and Meat ?
2-What is the different between Low and Law ?
3- What is the different between see and sea ?
4-What is the different between break and brake ?
5-What is the different between by and buy ?
6- What is the different between Silly Man and Sillyman ?

Part(2)
What does the word ( Table ) mean ?

Select the answer please :

a. An item of furniture with a flat top surface raised above the ground, usually on one or more legs.

b. A flat tray which can be used as a table.

c. A matrix or grid of data arranged in rows and columns.

d. computing: a lookup table

e. music: the top of a stringed instrument

hifriend223 wrote:Apple Pie i told you to visit the opthalomlogist ...

"We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Messenger of God." They did not kill him and they did not crucify him, but it was made to seem so to them. Those who argue about him are in doubt about it. They have no real knowledge of it, just conjecture. But they certainly did not kill him. God raised him to Himself. God is Almighty, All-Wise. (Surat An-Nisa', 4:157-158)

What means :

157. That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

158. Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-


وما قتلوه
وما صلبوه


wama qataloohu means : They did not kill him
wama salaboohu means : They did not crucify him

The translation Depends on the sentens

Its very clear


Apple Pie here is a small test for you :

Part (1)
1-What is the different between Meet and Meat ?
2-What is the different between Low and Law ?
3- What is the different between see and sea ?
4-What is the different between break and brake ?
5-What is the different between by and buy ?
6- What is the different between Silly Man and Sillyman ?

Part(2)
What does the word ( Table ) mean ?

Select the answer please :

a. An item of furniture with a flat top surface raised above the ground, usually on one or more legs.

b. A flat tray which can be used as a table.

c. A matrix or grid of data arranged in rows and columns.

d. computing: a lookup table

e. music: the top of a stringed instrument

As further evidence that 4.157 confirms Jesus’ death upon the cross, we have included all the Koranic crucifixion instances, which confirm that the Koran always describes a crucifixion event with complete certainty of death…



• 5.33…they will be crucified till death
• 7.124…I will surely crucify you till death
• 12.41…so will be crucified till death
• 20.71…and I will surely crucify you till death
• 26.49…and I will surely crucify you till death



Death through crucifixion is always mandated in the Koran.

Thus, there is no reason at all to believe that 4.157 would break this trend…

As we see that Apple Pie trying to lie on the non arab people and on who dont have any idea about islam or about the arabic language ...

The Qur’an tells us that some of the Israelites rejected Jesus, and conspired to kill him, but Allah (God) rescued Jesus and raised him to Himself ...


Also We prove it from the bible (The New Testament ) that The Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace be upon him) did not die...

to Applie Pie.... first of all the Hifriend has proven from the bible that jesus did not die and was not crucified with reference.

Where as you are using distorted translation ( of god knows which mental patient translated for you ) from the quran to prove that jesus was crucified.

once again i would like to ask you the same question that shafique asked you.

Are you sure you are not a muslim trying to use reverse psychology to bring people to read quran?

hifriend223 wrote:As we see that Apple Pie trying to lie on the non arab people and on who dont have any idea about islam or about the arabic language ...

Calling others liars is hardly an excuse for your belief...

The Qur’an tells us that some of the Israelites rejected Jesus, and conspired to kill him, but Allah (God) rescued Jesus and raised him to Himself ...

Where...?

Also We prove it from the bible (The New Testament ) that The Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace be upon him) did not die...

Where...?

outworldish wrote:to Applie Pie.... first of all the Hifriend has proven from the bible that jesus did not die and was not crucified with reference.

Where was this...?

Where as you are using distorted translation ( of god knows which mental patient translated for you ) from the quran to prove that jesus was crucified.

We use the original classic Koranic Arabic to demonstrate our points...

If you have a better source than this, please bring it forth...

once again i would like to ask you the same question that shafique asked you.

Are you sure you are not a muslim trying to use reverse
psychology to bring people to read quran?

As already stated, I am Christian.

Not Muslim.

Perhaps you have been caught off guard when you encountered someone who is wise to the same old Islamic mantra...yes?

Perhaps you have been caught off guard when you encountered someone who is wise to the same old Islamic mantra...yes?

your arguments are far from wise, more like idiotic.

outworldish wrote:

Perhaps you have been caught off guard when you encountered someone who is wise to the same old Islamic mantra...yes?

your arguments are far from wise, more like idiotic.

Thanks for finding something in our response worthy of your time replying to...

Apple Pie wrote:

outworldish wrote:

Perhaps you have been caught off guard when you encountered someone who is wise to the same old Islamic mantra...yes?

your arguments are far from wise, more like idiotic.

Thanks for finding something in our response worthy of your time replying to...

Why not , im becoming fond of your silliness. I enjoy a little humor every now and then, after all i am human. and i do enjoy your idiocracy.

please do keep them coming.

outworldish wrote:please do keep them coming.

Will do...

We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Messenger of God." They did not kill him and they did not crucify him, but it was made to seem so to them. Those who argue about him are in doubt about it. They have no real knowledge of it, just conjecture. But they certainly did not kill him. God raised him to Himself. God is Almighty, All-Wise. (Surat An-Nisa', 4:157-158)

What means :

157. That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

158. Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-


وما قتلوه
وما صلبوه


wama qataloohu means : They did not kill him
wama salaboohu means : They did not crucify him


http://www.quranexplorer.com/quran/


Its very clear

And we aprove it as well from the bible; that jesus said : "AN EVIL AND ADULTEROUS GENERATION SEEKETH AFTER A SIGN; AND THERE SHALL NO SIGN (no miracle) BE GIVEN TO IT, BUT THE SIGN (miracle) OF THE PROPHET JONAS: FOR AS JONAS WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE WHALE'S BELLY; SO SHALL THE SON OF MAN BE THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH." Matthew 12:39-40).

WHAT WAS THE SIGN OF JONAH?
Answer : That he WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE WHALE'S BELLY ((( Alive )))

Was Jonah dead or alive?
Any Christian child who has attended Sunday School will give an immediate reply: "ALIVE!"

A fish swallows Jonah. Was he dead or alive when swallowed? The answer again is "ALIVE" Was he dead or alive when "JONAH PRAYED UNTO THE LORD HIS GOD OUT OF THE FISH'S BELLY?" (Jonah 2:1)
Surely dead men don't cry and don't pray! The answer again is "ALIVE" For three days and three nights the fish takes him around the ocean: dead or alive? "ALIVE!" is the answer. On the third day it vomits him on the seashore: dead or alive? A-L-I-V-E, of course! What had Jesus prophesied about himself? He said: "AS JONAH WAS ..... SO SHALL THE SON OF MAN BE" LIKE JONAH. And how was Jonah? Was he dead or alive for three days and three nights? Alive! ALIVE! ALIVE!

If Jonah was alive for three days and three nights, then Jesus also ought to have been alive in the tomb as he himself had foretold!

Jesus had said "LIKE Jonah" not UNLIKE Jonah

hifriend223 wrote:We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Messenger of God." They did not kill him and they did not crucify him, but it was made to seem so to them. Those who argue about him are in doubt about it. They have no real knowledge of it, just conjecture. But they certainly did not kill him. God raised him to Himself. God is Almighty, All-Wise. (Surat An-Nisa', 4:157-158)

What means :

157. That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

158. Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-


وما قتلوه
وما صلبوه


wama qataloohu means : They did not kill him
wama salaboohu means : They did not crucify him


http://www.quranexplorer.com/quran/


Its very clear

Indeed, it is clear...if you take the time to actually read the Koranic context instead of basing an entire theology around one ayah.

Let's review your first error in reasoning...


ما = “ma”

“ma” definition:

Conjunctive pronoun. That; which; that which; whatsoever; what; as; as much; in such a manner as; as much as; as for as; any kind; when; how. Does not, as a rule, refer to reasonable things, but instances to the contrary sometimes occur. It is one of those particles, which, in conditional propositions, govern the verb in the conditional mood; it is frequently a mere expletive. It is also a negative adverb, Not; in general it denies a circumstance either present, or of past, but little remote from the present; it governs the attribute in the accusative, thus it is a negative particle when placed before the perfect as in 53.2; or before a pronoun as in 68.2; or before an demonstrative noun as in 12.31. The particle, when joined to the perfect, denies the past; when joined to the imperfect, the present.

References:
An Arabic-English Lexicon, E.W. Lane, volume eight, p. 3016
A Grammar of the Arabic Language, W. Wright, Third edition, volume 2, p. 300
The Dictionary of the Holy Qur’an, 1st edition, Abdul Mannan Omar, pp. 523 - 524
A Dictionary and Glossary of the Koran, John Penrice, pp. 135 - 136


To take "ma" as a negative, is to force other Koranic ayahs into contradiction.

And we aprove it as well from the bible; that jesus said : "AN EVIL AND ADULTEROUS GENERATION SEEKETH AFTER A SIGN; AND THERE SHALL NO SIGN (no miracle) BE GIVEN TO IT, BUT THE SIGN (miracle) OF THE PROPHET JONAS: FOR AS JONAS WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE WHALE'S BELLY; SO SHALL THE SON OF MAN BE THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH." Matthew 12:39-40).

WHAT WAS THE SIGN OF JONAH?
Answer : That he WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE WHALE'S BELLY ((( Alive )))

Was Jonah dead or alive?
Any Christian child who has attended Sunday School will give an immediate reply: "ALIVE!"

A fish swallows Jonah. Was he dead or alive when swallowed? The answer again is "ALIVE" Was he dead or alive when "JONAH PRAYED UNTO THE LORD HIS GOD OUT OF THE FISH'S BELLY?" (Jonah 2:1)
Surely dead men don't cry and don't pray! The answer again is "ALIVE" For three days and three nights the fish takes him around the ocean: dead or alive? "ALIVE!" is the answer. On the third day it vomits him on the seashore: dead or alive? A-L-I-V-E, of course! What had Jesus prophesied about himself? He said: "AS JONAH WAS ..... SO SHALL THE SON OF MAN BE" LIKE JONAH. And how was Jonah? Was he dead or alive for three days and three nights? Alive! ALIVE! ALIVE!

If Jonah was alive for three days and three nights, then Jesus also ought to have been alive in the tomb as he himself had foretold!

Jesus had said "LIKE Jonah" not UNLIKE Jonah

Why did you leave-out the Biblical verses that state that Jesus died on the cross?

Even the authors of the Koran remembered this.

وما قتلوه
وما صلبوه


wama qataloohu means : They did not kill him
wama salaboohu means : They did not crucify him


http://www.quranexplorer.com/quran/


I approve it from the bible look in (Matthew 12:39-40)

hifriend223 wrote:وما قتلوه
وما صلبوه


wama qataloohu means : They did not kill him
wama salaboohu means : They did not crucify him


http://www.quranexplorer.com/quran/


I approve it from the bible look in (Matthew 12:39-40)

If you believe that, then your Koran has a contradiction in it...


يخرج من بين الصلب والترائب

Yakhruju min bayni alssulbi waalttara-ibi

86.7 He emerges from amidst the Cross and the grave.

hifriend223 wrote:وما قتلوه
وما صلبوه


wama qataloohu means : They did not kill him
wama salaboohu means : They did not crucify him

check here please :
http://www.quranexplorer.com/quran/


The a pprove from the bible check here please Matthew 12:39-40)

The root “khahafa”, used in this ayah, means "he came after, followed, succeeded, or remained after another or another that had perished or died."

Thus...you really have no leg to stand on in supporting the Islamic paradigm...

Muslims view Jesus as both a prophet and as the Messiah. However, the Muslim view of Messiah is not at the level Christians and Jews place the Messiah. To Jews and Christians, the Messiah is far above prophet, priest and king combined.

But Muslims have high regard for prophets. So Muslims do not accept that Jesus would be crucified. Instead, Muslims believe that God removed Jesus from the cross and took him ...

The Qur’an is very clear on this issue. It says :

An-Nisa | 176 verses | The Women سورة النساء
Sura #4 | Madina


157 وَقَوْلِهِمْ إِنَّا قَتَلْنَا الْمَسِيحَ عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولَ اللّهِ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَكِن شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ وَإِنَّ الَّذِينَ اخْتَلَفُواْ فِيهِ لَفِي شَكٍّ مِّنْهُ مَا لَهُم بِهِ مِنْ عِلْمٍ إِلاَّ اتِّبَاعَ الظَّنِّ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ يَقِينًا

Transliteration 157: Waqawlihim inna qatalna almaseeha AAeesa ibna maryama rasoola Allahi wama qataloohu wama salaboohu walakin shubbiha lahum wainna allatheena ikhtalafoo feehi lafee shakkin minhu ma lahum bihi min AAilmin illa ittibaAAa alththanni wama qataloohu yaqeenan

Yusuf Ali 157: That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

Shakir 157: And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.

Pickthal 157: And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain.

M. Khan 157: And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not (i.e. Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ):

French 157: et à cause leur parole: ‹Nous avons vraiment tué le Christ, Jésus, fils de Marie, le Messager d'Allah›... Or, ils ne l'ont ni tué ni crucifié; mais ce n'était qu'un faux semblant! Et ceux qui ont discuté sur son sujet sont vraiment dans l'incertitude: ils n'en ont aucune connaissance certaine, ils ne font que suivre des conjectures et ils ne l'ont certainement pas tué.

Spanish 157: y por haber dicho: "Hemos dado muerte al Ungido, Jesús, hijo de María, el enviado de Alá", siendo así que no le mataron ni le crucificaron, sino que les pareció así. Los que discrepan acerca de él, dudan. No tienen conocimiento de él, no siguen más que conjeturas. Pero, ciertamente no le mataron,

Indonesian 157: dan karena ucapan mereka: "Sesungguhnya Kami telah membunuh Al Masih, 'Isa putera Maryam, Rasul Allah" , padahal mereka tidak membunuhnya dan tidak (pula) menyalibnya, tetapi (yang mereka bunuh ialah) orang yang diserupakan dengan 'Isa bagi mereka. Sesungguhnya orang-orang yang berselisih paham tentang (pembunuhan) 'Isa, benar-benar dalam keragu-raguan tentang yang dibunuh itu. Mereka tidak mempunyai keyakinan tentang siapa yang dibunuh itu, kecuali mengikuti persangkaan belaka, mereka tidak (pula) yakin bahwa yang mereka bunuh itu adalah 'Isa.

Melayu 157: Dan juga (disebabkan) dakwaan mereka dengan mengatakan: Sesungguhnya kami telah membunuh Al-Masih Isa Ibni Mariam, Rasul Allah. Padahal mereka tidak membunuhnya dan tidak memalangnya (di kayu palang salib), tetapi diserupakan bagi mereka (orang yang mereka bunuh itu seperti Nabi Isa) dan Sesungguhnya orang-orang yang telah berselisih faham, mengenai Nabi Isa, sebenarnya mereka berada dalam keadaan syak (ragu-ragu) tentang menentukan (pembunuhannya). Tiada sesuatu pengetahuan pun bagi mereka mengenainya selain daripada mengikut sangkaan semata-mata dan mereka tidak membunuhnya dengan yakin.

German 157: "und wegen ihrer Rede: ""Wir haben den Messias, Jesus, den Sohn der Maria, den Gesandten Allahs, getötet"", während sie ihn doch weder erschlagen noch gekreuzigt hatten, sondern dies wurde ihnen nur vorgetäuscht; und jene, die in dieser Sache uneins sind, sind wahrlich im Zweifel darüber; sie haben keine Kenntnis davon, sondern folgen nur einer Vermutung; und sie haben ihn nicht mit Gewißheit getötet.

Russian 157: и сказали: «Воистину, мы убили Мессию Ису (Иисуса), сына Марьям (Марии), посланника Аллаха». Однако они не убили его и не распяли, а это только показалось им. Те, которые препираются по этому поводу, пребывают в сомнении и ничего не ведают об этом, а лишь следуют предположениям. Они действительно не убивали его (или не убивали его с уверенностью).

Bosnian 157: i zbog riječi njihovih: “Mi smo ubili Mesiha, Isaa, sina Merjemina, Allahova poslanika!” A nisu ga ni ubili ni raspeli, već im se pričinilo. Oni koji su se o njemu u mišljenju razilazili, oni su sami o tome u sumnji bili; o tome nisu ništa pouzdano znali, samo su nagađali; a sigurno je da ga nisu ubili,

Urdu 157: اور ان کے اس کہنے پر کہ ہم نے مسیح عیسیٰ مریم کے بیٹے کو قتل کیا جو الله کا رسول تھا حالانکہ انہوں نے نہ اسے قتل کیا اور نہ سولی پر چڑھایا لیکن ان کو اشتباہ ہو گیا اورجن لوگوں نے اس کے بارے میں اختلاف کیا ہے وہ بھی دراصل شک میں مبتلا ہیں ان کے پا س بھی اس معاملہ میں کوئی یقین نہیں ہے محض گمان ہی کی پیروی ہے انہوں نے یقیناً مسیح کو قتل نہیں کیا


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158 بَل رَّفَعَهُ اللّهُ إِلَيْهِ وَكَانَ اللّهُ عَزِيزًا حَكِيمًا

Transliteration 158: Bal rafaAAahu Allahu ilayhi wakana Allahu AAazeezan hakeeman

Yusuf Ali 158: Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-

Shakir 158: Nay! Allah took him up to Himself; and Allah is Mighty, Wise.

Pickthal 158: But Allah took him up unto Himself. Allah was ever Mighty, Wise.

M. Khan 158: But Allah raised him (Iesa (Jesus)) up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And Allah is Ever AllPowerful, AllWise.

French 158: mais Allah l'a élevé vers Lui. Et Allah est Puissant et Sage.

Spanish 158: sino que Alá lo elevó a Sí. Alá es poderoso, sabio.

Indonesian 158: Tetapi (yang sebenarnya), Allah telah mengangkat 'Isa kepada-Nya . Dan adalah Allah Maha Perkasa lagi Maha Bijaksana.

Melayu 158: Bahkan Allah telah mengangkat Nabi Isa kepadaNya dan adalah Allah Maha Kuasa, lagi Maha Bijaksana.

German 158: "Vielmehr hat Allah ihn zu Sich emporgehoben, und Allah ist Allmächtig, Allweise.

Russian 158: О нет! Это Аллах вознес его к Себе, ведь Аллах – Могущественный, Мудрый.

Bosnian 158: već ga je Allah uzdigao Sebi. - A Allah je silan i mudar.

Urdu 158: بلکہ اسے الله نے اپنی طرف اٹھا لیا اور الله زبردست حکمت والا ہے


((but they killed him not, nor crucified him)) Approve from the Bible :

In Matthew 12:39-40)

JESUS HAD HIMSELF FORETOLD THAT HIS MIRACLE WILL BE THE MIRACLE OF JONAH!
According to the Book of Jonah, Jonah was ALIVE, when we expected him to be DEAD; similarly when we expect Jesus to be DEAD, he should be ALIVE!

How is it that Muslims base an entire theology around one mis-interpreted ayah...?

Apple Pie wrote:How is it that Muslims base an entire theology around one mis-interpreted ayah...?

Who made you the master of interpretation anyway?

outworldish wrote:

Apple Pie wrote:How is it that Muslims base an entire theology around one mis-interpreted ayah...?

Who made you the master of interpretation anyway?

What Arabic word is troubling you...?

Apple Pie wrote:

outworldish wrote:

Apple Pie wrote:How is it that Muslims base an entire theology around one mis-interpreted ayah...?

Who made you the master of interpretation anyway?

What Arabic word is troubling you...?

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