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ebonics wrote:
truckies rule the road, in some places like adelaide, the entire city.

dubaidog wrote:Further to the above mentioned screaming. How about the winners (many friends and family included) who speak to people in broken English just because somebody has an accent. "YOU put box on floor....ME take home after finish work" . When "If you put the box on the floor, I'll take it when I finish work" will get the same message across.

I always say, no matter how poor someone's English might be, it is certainly better than my Hindi, Urdu, Arabic, Upper West Mongolian or whatever.


Unknown Devil: I am glad your brother is doing well. If he is at University of Waterloo and not a Canadian Citizen, it costs a fortune (big bucks even if you ARE a citizen), so I assume you or your family have bucks. That is what I said in my original statement, if you have money, no problem. It is the airport guys you speak about that often have the "dream"...and it will never happen for them. By the way, I don't know what your concept of "good money" is, but a security guard in Canada is akin to flipping burgers at McDonalds, and is about the lowest paying job there (7-8 bucks/hr) and daycares are strictly monitored and regulated.

It costs on average 30 bucks a day to the parents per child, and the daycares have as many kids as the law will allow. After you take your courses and modify your home to the standards and feed the brats, you end up about even (with a trashed house). If you don't want to conform and decide to run an illegal daycare, when the licensed people find out (and they will), child services shows up and takes your kids. Then you have a court date...but wait! your a#s is too poor to pay for proper representation, so we'll keep your kids for you until your deportation order is through. We hope you enjoyed your stay, come again.

I honestly don't know where this information comes from! On the other hand, if you are an experienced carpenter, electrician, plumber, pipe fitter, etc. You can pretty much name your price. Those are some of the most "lowly" professions here, yet command a killer wage in Canada.

BabyDoll wrote:

Concord wrote:There no need for shouting (unless the other person is half deaf - if totally deaf, still no need).

It is funny how people (not just in the UAE) would shout when speaking to another person who they believe might not understand english. I often shout in Mongolian when speaking to brits just to annoy them...

Agree. Not sure why but people do. Sometimes I think people do that because they are labourer or maid and therefore treat them second class. Sad..

BabyDoll wrote:

ebonics wrote:
truckies rule the road, in some places like adelaide, the entire city.

I thought it was the elderly in Adelaide ?? !!

Concord wrote:

Unknown Devil wrote:Okay u leaving aside the companies or the middle men who I think even raped is still not enough for them. But check this incident out in the Dubai airport!! I am a Bangladeshi. I came to Dubai on march 1st after the hectic flight delay for 16 hours due to some technical faults. Neways I enter to the place where they issue the visit visa. The security literally screams in Hindi or Urdu to come here to all the labourers and make lines. Like treating them like animals. While others, the officials in the airport are asking stupid questions to them in Hindi and laughing on their condition. First these guys dont have proper sleep and then doing this.

So yeah the security guy was like screaming and all making a line and stuff and told them to sit. When I didnt, he screamed on my face. I was like please lower ur voice and speak. I am not some guy on the street. He thought maybe I was one. But he shut up. Sometimes it really is bad. It hurts to see my country people like this.

The funny part is when these guys leave their jobs or deported they wont warn others as in how their state is in Dubai. I met a couple of labour class guys when I was in my country and they asked me how dubai was cuz they applied for visa and what not. I explained to them how it is there. I mightve shattered their dreams but heck sometimes u need to face reality. Then they said like they still have to prepare more.

I once heard before middle men would be like say 2000 dhs would be their salary. And when they came to the company it would be like 1000 is takin by the company because the company provides those shitty accomodation and second then again takes 300 for their so called medical insurances. Which leaves them with 700 dhs. I dont think Dubai even classifies Human rights!!

I suggest some institute like that guy in Gulf news should take some iniative to teach these guys. Hell yeah I might even join. With no charge at all!!

And canada and all people go there for their better job chances. My younger brother is in canada and studying in University of waterloo, electrical engineering. This summer for work he is being flown out to U.s.a for a company called Nvidia which produces computer graphic chips and all. Well canada has opportunites and he plans to stay back in canada after finighs his studies. Dubai might have money but compartively I think the price is the same as canada or states. Its sort of like Indirect tax. Lot of things. I dont say I also totally agree. Dont know about passport. But very rare I have found people who actually were here for many years with good jobs and doing good over there. Most I know the ladies are running Day care at home which is good money while the guys are in security gaurds which is again good money!! But aint worth all that trouble!!

Very sad! Psychology is an amazing thing. The "secuirty" guard at the airport is a "low rank" so he has a bit of "authority" and abuses it by shouting at others he considers "inferior"...

It's been said before, so long as there are people willing to come to work for next to nothing (more than in their countries) this sort of thing will continue on and on... The changes need to happen in their respective countries to create decent jobs, etc. so that their own people are not subjected to exploitation in another country. The world is full of exploiters and exploited (less and less nowadays but...)

Unknown Devil wrote:

Concord wrote:

Unknown Devil wrote:Okay u leaving aside the companies or the middle men who I think even raped is still not enough for them. But check this incident out in the Dubai airport!! I am a Bangladeshi. I came to Dubai on march 1st after the hectic flight delay for 16 hours due to some technical faults. Neways I enter to the place where they issue the visit visa. The security literally screams in Hindi or Urdu to come here to all the labourers and make lines. Like treating them like animals. While others, the officials in the airport are asking stupid questions to them in Hindi and laughing on their condition. First these guys dont have proper sleep and then doing this.

So yeah the security guy was like screaming and all making a line and stuff and told them to sit. When I didnt, he screamed on my face. I was like please lower ur voice and speak. I am not some guy on the street. He thought maybe I was one. But he shut up. Sometimes it really is bad. It hurts to see my country people like this.

The funny part is when these guys leave their jobs or deported they wont warn others as in how their state is in Dubai. I met a couple of labour class guys when I was in my country and they asked me how dubai was cuz they applied for visa and what not. I explained to them how it is there. I mightve shattered their dreams but heck sometimes u need to face reality. Then they said like they still have to prepare more.

I once heard before middle men would be like say 2000 dhs would be their salary. And when they came to the company it would be like 1000 is takin by the company because the company provides those shitty accomodation and second then again takes 300 for their so called medical insurances. Which leaves them with 700 dhs. I dont think Dubai even classifies Human rights!!

I suggest some institute like that guy in Gulf news should take some iniative to teach these guys. Hell yeah I might even join. With no charge at all!!

And canada and all people go there for their better job chances. My younger brother is in canada and studying in University of waterloo, electrical engineering. This summer for work he is being flown out to U.s.a for a company called Nvidia which produces computer graphic chips and all. Well canada has opportunites and he plans to stay back in canada after finighs his studies. Dubai might have money but compartively I think the price is the same as canada or states. Its sort of like Indirect tax. Lot of things. I dont say I also totally agree. Dont know about passport. But very rare I have found people who actually were here for many years with good jobs and doing good over there. Most I know the ladies are running Day care at home which is good money while the guys are in security gaurds which is again good money!! But aint worth all that trouble!!

Very sad! Psychology is an amazing thing. The "secuirty" guard at the airport is a "low rank" so he has a bit of "authority" and abuses it by shouting at others he considers "inferior"...

It's been said before, so long as there are people willing to come to work for next to nothing (more than in their countries) this sort of thing will continue on and on... The changes need to happen in their respective countries to create decent jobs, etc. so that their own people are not subjected to exploitation in another country. The world is full of exploiters and exploited (less and less nowadays but...)

Well thats very true!! But things are changing because the new generation are learning and all in the respected places. So I hope it will cuz I know my gut tells me that. I remember when in our country a city was bombed and all because of internal clashes between parties, my dad was worried about it and all then the same day an american consultant came to my dad for some work and looked at him and told him he looked tense and all but yet my dad kinda hid it and the dude was like older than my dad. My dad was like there have been recent bombings in a city and all and it was just a bit of tension. The guy knew our country is a democratic country. He was like dont worry everything is gonna be allright. America fought for 100 years to get democracy and u just libearted ur on 1971 so give it time and it will do for sure!! But yeah they will one day and I wish I live that long to see it. Thats why I get pissed when people call us like 3rd world. If America or any country fought for so many things and all as in their history says it all then I dont think they should be racist or whatever because people shouldnt forget the past just for the furture!!

St.Lucifer wrote:

BabyDoll wrote:

St.Lucifer wrote:Further on Conco's viewpoint, Psychology is an amazing thing.. in here people like to show off whatever little they are capable of doing.. They like to abuse people to boost up their ego and feel all big abt it. I've often felt bad by the partisanship shown towards people and u can find it anywhere in dubai.. ..

While we are on that topic. It doesn just happened in Dubai. It happens in work place between female-male colleagues (gender bias) and different races (racism) any where around the world !!

I understand where you r coming from.. but in dubai its all more based on the size of your pocket or the Virtual Size of it. how much you can show off...U've an ultra luxury car and blings and u are on the wrong side of the road n people still dont stop u n swear at u .... but if u are in a small cheaper car.. people will see mistakes even if u are driving all right.
the partisanship is also based on money here..

Concord wrote:

Unknown Devil wrote:

Concord wrote:

Unknown Devil wrote:Okay u leaving aside the companies or the middle men who I think even raped is still not enough for them. But check this incident out in the Dubai airport!! I am a Bangladeshi. I came to Dubai on march 1st after the hectic flight delay for 16 hours due to some technical faults. Neways I enter to the place where they issue the visit visa. The security literally screams in Hindi or Urdu to come here to all the labourers and make lines. Like treating them like animals. While others, the officials in the airport are asking stupid questions to them in Hindi and laughing on their condition. First these guys dont have proper sleep and then doing this.

So yeah the security guy was like screaming and all making a line and stuff and told them to sit. When I didnt, he screamed on my face. I was like please lower ur voice and speak. I am not some guy on the street. He thought maybe I was one. But he shut up. Sometimes it really is bad. It hurts to see my country people like this.

The funny part is when these guys leave their jobs or deported they wont warn others as in how their state is in Dubai. I met a couple of labour class guys when I was in my country and they asked me how dubai was cuz they applied for visa and what not. I explained to them how it is there. I mightve shattered their dreams but heck sometimes u need to face reality. Then they said like they still have to prepare more.

I once heard before middle men would be like say 2000 dhs would be their salary. And when they came to the company it would be like 1000 is takin by the company because the company provides those shitty accomodation and second then again takes 300 for their so called medical insurances. Which leaves them with 700 dhs. I dont think Dubai even classifies Human rights!!

I suggest some institute like that guy in Gulf news should take some iniative to teach these guys. Hell yeah I might even join. With no charge at all!!

And canada and all people go there for their better job chances. My younger brother is in canada and studying in University of waterloo, electrical engineering. This summer for work he is being flown out to U.s.a for a company called Nvidia which produces computer graphic chips and all. Well canada has opportunites and he plans to stay back in canada after finighs his studies. Dubai might have money but compartively I think the price is the same as canada or states. Its sort of like Indirect tax. Lot of things. I dont say I also totally agree. Dont know about passport. But very rare I have found people who actually were here for many years with good jobs and doing good over there. Most I know the ladies are running Day care at home which is good money while the guys are in security gaurds which is again good money!! But aint worth all that trouble!!

Very sad! Psychology is an amazing thing. The "secuirty" guard at the airport is a "low rank" so he has a bit of "authority" and abuses it by shouting at others he considers "inferior"...

It's been said before, so long as there are people willing to come to work for next to nothing (more than in their countries) this sort of thing will continue on and on... The changes need to happen in their respective countries to create decent jobs, etc. so that their own people are not subjected to exploitation in another country. The world is full of exploiters and exploited (less and less nowadays but...)

Well thats very true!! But things are changing because the new generation are learning and all in the respected places. So I hope it will cuz I know my gut tells me that. I remember when in our country a city was bombed and all because of internal clashes between parties, my dad was worried about it and all then the same day an american consultant came to my dad for some work and looked at him and told him he looked tense and all but yet my dad kinda hid it and the dude was like older than my dad. My dad was like there have been recent bombings in a city and all and it was just a bit of tension. The guy knew our country is a democratic country. He was like dont worry everything is gonna be allright. America fought for 100 years to get democracy and u just libearted ur on 1971 so give it time and it will do for sure!! But yeah they will one day and I wish I live that long to see it. Thats why I get pissed when people call us like 3rd world. If America or any country fought for so many things and all as in their history says it all then I dont think they should be racist or whatever because people shouldnt forget the past just for the furture!!

I was with you until the last sentence. Not because it may not be true but because I am assuming you are just saying that without having been there or experiencing any of it. Comparing racism in America with Racism in Dubai is like comparing glass to dimonds... America is a great nation (so I've heard)...

rudeboy wrote:ok since I have a labourers contracting company which supplys labourers to various other construction companys, i guess i will get loads of licks .

but u guys are right the middle men are most of the time at fault but NOT all the time.

middle men like devil said get 2000dhs out of which they will probably give 700dhs to the labourers as a salary package an they will keep the other 1300dhs. you might think this is too extreme but middle men have to think about transportation, food as well as accomodation for their labourers. now then 1300dhs will not get u all of that will it now?

the middle men supplying the labourers always get the money from the other "middle men" who can be construction companies and sometimes the other middle men would run away and take all the money and leave all the middle men in the dark .

so u guys are right but the middle men have a family to look after, they too have invested alot especially to get 500 of their labourers visas and health cards to work in UAE.

oh by the way having ur own labourer camp helps alot but most of the cases you will probably rent it out and you will have a very selfish greedy landlord who will increase the rent now and then and having just 1300dhs doesnt help, thats y middlemen would stack 20 to 30 ppl in a room.

but if u ask the labourer they prefer working in Dubai because the dhirams value is more compared to the pakistani or indian rupee and 700dhs they getting is a lot compared to what they would be getting back there in pakistan or india.

so now u see the viscious circle.

Unknown Devil wrote:

Concord wrote:

Unknown Devil wrote:

Concord wrote:

Unknown Devil wrote:Okay u leaving aside the companies or the middle men who I think even raped is still not enough for them. But check this incident out in the Dubai airport!! I am a Bangladeshi. I came to Dubai on march 1st after the hectic flight delay for 16 hours due to some technical faults. Neways I enter to the place where they issue the visit visa. The security literally screams in Hindi or Urdu to come here to all the labourers and make lines. Like treating them like animals. While others, the officials in the airport are asking stupid questions to them in Hindi and laughing on their condition. First these guys dont have proper sleep and then doing this.

So yeah the security guy was like screaming and all making a line and stuff and told them to sit. When I didnt, he screamed on my face. I was like please lower ur voice and speak. I am not some guy on the street. He thought maybe I was one. But he shut up. Sometimes it really is bad. It hurts to see my country people like this.

The funny part is when these guys leave their jobs or deported they wont warn others as in how their state is in Dubai. I met a couple of labour class guys when I was in my country and they asked me how dubai was cuz they applied for visa and what not. I explained to them how it is there. I mightve shattered their dreams but heck sometimes u need to face reality. Then they said like they still have to prepare more.

I once heard before middle men would be like say 2000 dhs would be their salary. And when they came to the company it would be like 1000 is takin by the company because the company provides those shitty accomodation and second then again takes 300 for their so called medical insurances. Which leaves them with 700 dhs. I dont think Dubai even classifies Human rights!!

I suggest some institute like that guy in Gulf news should take some iniative to teach these guys. Hell yeah I might even join. With no charge at all!!

And canada and all people go there for their better job chances. My younger brother is in canada and studying in University of waterloo, electrical engineering. This summer for work he is being flown out to U.s.a for a company called Nvidia which produces computer graphic chips and all. Well canada has opportunites and he plans to stay back in canada after finighs his studies. Dubai might have money but compartively I think the price is the same as canada or states. Its sort of like Indirect tax. Lot of things. I dont say I also totally agree. Dont know about passport. But very rare I have found people who actually were here for many years with good jobs and doing good over there. Most I know the ladies are running Day care at home which is good money while the guys are in security gaurds which is again good money!! But aint worth all that trouble!!

Very sad! Psychology is an amazing thing. The "secuirty" guard at the airport is a "low rank" so he has a bit of "authority" and abuses it by shouting at others he considers "inferior"...

It's been said before, so long as there are people willing to come to work for next to nothing (more than in their countries) this sort of thing will continue on and on... The changes need to happen in their respective countries to create decent jobs, etc. so that their own people are not subjected to exploitation in another country. The world is full of exploiters and exploited (less and less nowadays but...)

Well thats very true!! But things are changing because the new generation are learning and all in the respected places. So I hope it will cuz I know my gut tells me that. I remember when in our country a city was bombed and all because of internal clashes between parties, my dad was worried about it and all then the same day an american consultant came to my dad for some work and looked at him and told him he looked tense and all but yet my dad kinda hid it and the dude was like older than my dad. My dad was like there have been recent bombings in a city and all and it was just a bit of tension. The guy knew our country is a democratic country. He was like dont worry everything is gonna be allright. America fought for 100 years to get democracy and u just libearted ur on 1971 so give it time and it will do for sure!! But yeah they will one day and I wish I live that long to see it. Thats why I get pissed when people call us like 3rd world. If America or any country fought for so many things and all as in their history says it all then I dont think they should be racist or whatever because people shouldnt forget the past just for the furture!!

I was with you until the last sentence. Not because it may not be true but because I am assuming you are just saying that without having been there or experiencing any of it. Comparing racism in America with Racism in Dubai is like comparing glass to dimonds... America is a great nation (so I've heard)...

I mean the fight for democracy within a nation. Human rights and all. U saw so many movies made on the blacks being tortured specially in the south side of states i think plus even when rules were enforced yet due to the colour of the skin being treated yet different and all. Every country is fighting within themselves to reach to a certain point. America has done that to an extent. What is democracy!! Right of the poeple of that country right so yeah everyone has rights!! Otherwise in states you wouldnt be able to sue someone for say a simple thing like say ur backing ur car and by mistake hit someone because u didnt notice him coming from behind suddenly. Not like runnin over but its a human error that u didnt notice. Even in papers burglars were compensated because when he broke in he fell in the kitchen on some knives and cut him self. His lawyer argued on the point knives should be placed safely and the burglar won. Why because people have rights there and they fought with each other to come to a conclusion on how to go about it. But our developin countries are still fighting!!

Unknown Devil wrote:

Concord wrote:

Unknown Devil wrote:

Concord wrote:

Unknown Devil wrote:Okay u leaving aside the companies or the middle men who I think even raped is still not enough for them. But check this incident out in the Dubai airport!! I am a Bangladeshi. I came to Dubai on march 1st after the hectic flight delay for 16 hours due to some technical faults. Neways I enter to the place where they issue the visit visa. The security literally screams in Hindi or Urdu to come here to all the labourers and make lines. Like treating them like animals. While others, the officials in the airport are asking stupid questions to them in Hindi and laughing on their condition. First these guys dont have proper sleep and then doing this.

So yeah the security guy was like screaming and all making a line and stuff and told them to sit. When I didnt, he screamed on my face. I was like please lower ur voice and speak. I am not some guy on the street. He thought maybe I was one. But he shut up. Sometimes it really is bad. It hurts to see my country people like this.

The funny part is when these guys leave their jobs or deported they wont warn others as in how their state is in Dubai. I met a couple of labour class guys when I was in my country and they asked me how dubai was cuz they applied for visa and what not. I explained to them how it is there. I mightve shattered their dreams but heck sometimes u need to face reality. Then they said like they still have to prepare more.

I once heard before middle men would be like say 2000 dhs would be their salary. And when they came to the company it would be like 1000 is takin by the company because the company provides those shitty accomodation and second then again takes 300 for their so called medical insurances. Which leaves them with 700 dhs. I dont think Dubai even classifies Human rights!!

I suggest some institute like that guy in Gulf news should take some iniative to teach these guys. Hell yeah I might even join. With no charge at all!!

And canada and all people go there for their better job chances. My younger brother is in canada and studying in University of waterloo, electrical engineering. This summer for work he is being flown out to U.s.a for a company called Nvidia which produces computer graphic chips and all. Well canada has opportunites and he plans to stay back in canada after finighs his studies. Dubai might have money but compartively I think the price is the same as canada or states. Its sort of like Indirect tax. Lot of things. I dont say I also totally agree. Dont know about passport. But very rare I have found people who actually were here for many years with good jobs and doing good over there. Most I know the ladies are running Day care at home which is good money while the guys are in security gaurds which is again good money!! But aint worth all that trouble!!

Very sad! Psychology is an amazing thing. The "secuirty" guard at the airport is a "low rank" so he has a bit of "authority" and abuses it by shouting at others he considers "inferior"...

It's been said before, so long as there are people willing to come to work for next to nothing (more than in their countries) this sort of thing will continue on and on... The changes need to happen in their respective countries to create decent jobs, etc. so that their own people are not subjected to exploitation in another country. The world is full of exploiters and exploited (less and less nowadays but...)

Well thats very true!! But things are changing because the new generation are learning and all in the respected places. So I hope it will cuz I know my gut tells me that. I remember when in our country a city was bombed and all because of internal clashes between parties, my dad was worried about it and all then the same day an american consultant came to my dad for some work and looked at him and told him he looked tense and all but yet my dad kinda hid it and the dude was like older than my dad. My dad was like there have been recent bombings in a city and all and it was just a bit of tension. The guy knew our country is a democratic country. He was like dont worry everything is gonna be allright. America fought for 100 years to get democracy and u just libearted ur on 1971 so give it time and it will do for sure!! But yeah they will one day and I wish I live that long to see it. Thats why I get pissed when people call us like 3rd world. If America or any country fought for so many things and all as in their history says it all then I dont think they should be racist or whatever because people shouldnt forget the past just for the furture!!

I was with you until the last sentence. Not because it may not be true but because I am assuming you are just saying that without having been there or experiencing any of it. Comparing racism in America with Racism in Dubai is like comparing glass to dimonds... America is a great nation (so I've heard)...

I mean the fight for democracy within a nation. Human rights and all. U saw so many movies made on the blacks being tortured specially in the south side of states i think plus even when rules were enforced yet due to the colour of the skin being treated yet different and all. Every country is fighting within themselves to reach to a certain point. America has done that to an extent. What is democracy!! Right of the poeple of that country right so yeah everyone has rights!! Otherwise in states you wouldnt be able to sue someone for say a simple thing like say ur backing ur car and by mistake hit someone because u didnt notice him coming from behind suddenly. Not like runnin over but its a human error that u didnt notice. Even in papers burglars were compensated because when he broke in he fell in the kitchen on some knives and cut him self. His lawyer argued on the point knives should be placed safely and the burglar won. Why because people have rights there and they fought with each other to come to a conclusion on how to go about it. But our developin countries are still fighting!!

MC wrote:Is there like, a summary to all this?

Concord wrote:

Unknown Devil wrote:

Concord wrote:

Unknown Devil wrote:

Concord wrote:

Unknown Devil wrote:Okay u leaving aside the companies or the middle men who I think even raped is still not enough for them. But check this incident out in the Dubai airport!! I am a Bangladeshi. I came to Dubai on march 1st after the hectic flight delay for 16 hours due to some technical faults. Neways I enter to the place where they issue the visit visa. The security literally screams in Hindi or Urdu to come here to all the labourers and make lines. Like treating them like animals. While others, the officials in the airport are asking stupid questions to them in Hindi and laughing on their condition. First these guys dont have proper sleep and then doing this.

So yeah the security guy was like screaming and all making a line and stuff and told them to sit. When I didnt, he screamed on my face. I was like please lower ur voice and speak. I am not some guy on the street. He thought maybe I was one. But he shut up. Sometimes it really is bad. It hurts to see my country people like this.

The funny part is when these guys leave their jobs or deported they wont warn others as in how their state is in Dubai. I met a couple of labour class guys when I was in my country and they asked me how dubai was cuz they applied for visa and what not. I explained to them how it is there. I mightve shattered their dreams but heck sometimes u need to face reality. Then they said like they still have to prepare more.

I once heard before middle men would be like say 2000 dhs would be their salary. And when they came to the company it would be like 1000 is takin by the company because the company provides those shitty accomodation and second then again takes 300 for their so called medical insurances. Which leaves them with 700 dhs. I dont think Dubai even classifies Human rights!!

I suggest some institute like that guy in Gulf news should take some iniative to teach these guys. Hell yeah I might even join. With no charge at all!!

And canada and all people go there for their better job chances. My younger brother is in canada and studying in University of waterloo, electrical engineering. This summer for work he is being flown out to U.s.a for a company called Nvidia which produces computer graphic chips and all. Well canada has opportunites and he plans to stay back in canada after finighs his studies. Dubai might have money but compartively I think the price is the same as canada or states. Its sort of like Indirect tax. Lot of things. I dont say I also totally agree. Dont know about passport. But very rare I have found people who actually were here for many years with good jobs and doing good over there. Most I know the ladies are running Day care at home which is good money while the guys are in security gaurds which is again good money!! But aint worth all that trouble!!

Very sad! Psychology is an amazing thing. The "secuirty" guard at the airport is a "low rank" so he has a bit of "authority" and abuses it by shouting at others he considers "inferior"...

It's been said before, so long as there are people willing to come to work for next to nothing (more than in their countries) this sort of thing will continue on and on... The changes need to happen in their respective countries to create decent jobs, etc. so that their own people are not subjected to exploitation in another country. The world is full of exploiters and exploited (less and less nowadays but...)

Well thats very true!! But things are changing because the new generation are learning and all in the respected places. So I hope it will cuz I know my gut tells me that. I remember when in our country a city was bombed and all because of internal clashes between parties, my dad was worried about it and all then the same day an american consultant came to my dad for some work and looked at him and told him he looked tense and all but yet my dad kinda hid it and the dude was like older than my dad. My dad was like there have been recent bombings in a city and all and it was just a bit of tension. The guy knew our country is a democratic country. He was like dont worry everything is gonna be allright. America fought for 100 years to get democracy and u just libearted ur on 1971 so give it time and it will do for sure!! But yeah they will one day and I wish I live that long to see it. Thats why I get pissed when people call us like 3rd world. If America or any country fought for so many things and all as in their history says it all then I dont think they should be racist or whatever because people shouldnt forget the past just for the furture!!

I was with you until the last sentence. Not because it may not be true but because I am assuming you are just saying that without having been there or experiencing any of it. Comparing racism in America with Racism in Dubai is like comparing glass to dimonds... America is a great nation (so I've heard)...

I mean the fight for democracy within a nation. Human rights and all. U saw so many movies made on the blacks being tortured specially in the south side of states i think plus even when rules were enforced yet due to the colour of the skin being treated yet different and all. Every country is fighting within themselves to reach to a certain point. America has done that to an extent. What is democracy!! Right of the poeple of that country right so yeah everyone has rights!! Otherwise in states you wouldnt be able to sue someone for say a simple thing like say ur backing ur car and by mistake hit someone because u didnt notice him coming from behind suddenly. Not like runnin over but its a human error that u didnt notice. Even in papers burglars were compensated because when he broke in he fell in the kitchen on some knives and cut him self. His lawyer argued on the point knives should be placed safely and the burglar won. Why because people have rights there and they fought with each other to come to a conclusion on how to go about it. But our developin countries are still fighting!!

I've got to tell you before I came to Dubai I had heard "Hollywood has so much influence" and I always thought it was just talk...After speaking with so many people in Dubai from all over the world I am CONVINCED that Hollywood has influenced people. The most obvious example was group of guys who saw "Borne Ultimatum" and you could give them a million dollars to believe it was "just a movie" but they will not take it believing instead tha the movie was "the real thing". The whole thing about lawyers and lawsuits all I have to say is "belive none of what you hear and only half of what you see". Here is a challenge: give me a real example of a US lawyer "abusing" the system... when I mean "real" I mean not just a newspaper article. One of the most "infamous" cases is a woman who was burned by a very hot mcdonalds coffee and a jury awareded her millions of dollars ($2.86M)... That was all reported. What was not reported was that even before appeal the judge reduced the verdict to ($640K) and the parties agreed to a confidential settlement before the appeal (absolutely no doubt far below $640K).

Now how does story like this sound "A woman who alleged she suffered disfiguring burns because of a hot McDonalds Coffe settled for a confidential sum after the judge reduces a jury verdict in her favor" versus "Jury award almost 3 million dollars to a woman who was given too hot a coffee cup at McDonalds"

I'm not a Hollywood star (they don't know what they are missinga) or in the new media. But...c'mon...

I think your head is in the right place but comparing or blaming America won't help your people's cause in the UAE.

Concord wrote:Unknowndevil, you are smart and passionat person - no doubt. But just read your last two posts...Take your time. They are inconsistent...

America could just have the first black presidential candidate. Think about, it that is like saying that Dubai will have the first Bangleshi, "His Excellency, Ruler of Dubai, Prime Minester of Dubai" - repeated on every newspaper. NO COMPARISON WHATSOEVER...

Keep up the fight just don't use Hollywood as an example (you are smarter than that...).

Unknown Devil wrote:

Concord wrote:Unknowndevil, you are smart and passionat person - no doubt. But just read your last two posts...Take your time. They are inconsistent...

America could just have the first black presidential candidate. Think about, it that is like saying that Dubai will have the first Bangleshi, "His Excellency, Ruler of Dubai, Prime Minester of Dubai" - repeated on every newspaper. NO COMPARISON WHATSOEVER...

Keep up the fight just don't use Hollywood as an example (you are smarter than that...).

I know what u mean!! And I know thats not gonna happen unless a miracle comes in play. hehe!! We should grab a beer or something and sit down and talk about it!! I think we should have a get together or something!!

Concord wrote:

Unknown Devil wrote:

Concord wrote:Unknowndevil, you are smart and passionat person - no doubt. But just read your last two posts...Take your time. They are inconsistent...

America could just have the first black presidential candidate. Think about, it that is like saying that Dubai will have the first Bangleshi, "His Excellency, Ruler of Dubai, Prime Minester of Dubai" - repeated on every newspaper. NO COMPARISON WHATSOEVER...

Keep up the fight just don't use Hollywood as an example (you are smarter than that...).

I know what u mean!! And I know thats not gonna happen unless a miracle comes in play. hehe!! We should grab a beer or something and sit down and talk about it!! I think we should have a get together or something!!

Sure, but aint that like a week's salary (a beer). Well, e mongolians...

Unknown Devil wrote:

Concord wrote:

Unknown Devil wrote:

Concord wrote:Unknowndevil, you are smart and passionat person - no doubt. But just read your last two posts...Take your time. They are inconsistent...

America could just have the first black presidential candidate. Think about, it that is like saying that Dubai will have the first Bangleshi, "His Excellency, Ruler of Dubai, Prime Minester of Dubai" - repeated on every newspaper. NO COMPARISON WHATSOEVER...

Keep up the fight just don't use Hollywood as an example (you are smarter than that...).

I know what u mean!! And I know thats not gonna happen unless a miracle comes in play. hehe!! We should grab a beer or something and sit down and talk about it!! I think we should have a get together or something!!

Sure, but aint that like a week's salary (a beer). Well, e mongolians...

Don't worry am also jobless but yet can get mosney out atleast for two beers!! hehe though I hate beer so I figured I can gulp it down in 2 to 4 hrs which I need!!

Concord wrote:

Unknown Devil wrote:

Concord wrote:

Unknown Devil wrote:

Concord wrote:Unknowndevil, you are smart and passionat person - no doubt. But just read your last two posts...Take your time. They are inconsistent...

America could just have the first black presidential candidate. Think about, it that is like saying that Dubai will have the first Bangleshi, "His Excellency, Ruler of Dubai, Prime Minester of Dubai" - repeated on every newspaper. NO COMPARISON WHATSOEVER...

Keep up the fight just don't use Hollywood as an example (you are smarter than that...).

I know what u mean!! And I know thats not gonna happen unless a miracle comes in play. hehe!! We should grab a beer or something and sit down and talk about it!! I think we should have a get together or something!!

Sure, but aint that like a week's salary (a beer). Well, e mongolians...

Don't worry am also jobless but yet can get mosney out atleast for two beers!! hehe though I hate beer so I figured I can gulp it down in 2 to 4 hrs which I need!!

Jobless? (nor surpise you mentioned it on your first post here...I pay attention).

Are you looking for a job? What are you qualified to do?

Post here (no personal details...)

Unless you don't want a job (we can always fire Sage & Onion and give you his job - he is useless...)