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Hey guys,
Can I get an answer for this!!!

After Jacks death, he comes in front of two doors, one of them leads to heaven and the other to hell, there are two angels, one standing in front of each door, the one standing in front of hell always lies and the one in front of heaven always tells the truth.
Now if you are only allowed to ask one question to both of them at the same time.
What would you ask to determine which one is which?

Please think hard ,I am stuck

Not a problem,

Ask either one "if I ask the person next to you which which is the way to heaven what would he say" when the answer comes then go in the opposite direction of the answer...


p.s. MENSA member since age 7...

You have to ask both

hey..ask them their respective names ,

Lsn bro they r gonna say the same name as the one who lies is gonna say the other guys name and the one who is tells the truth is gonna say his name

deadlife wrote:You have to ask both

Same, same

Ask what will the other say and then go the opposite direction...

okay lemme explain
Question?
1>Which Direction is heaven in?
2>Which one of you tells the truth?
3>Which one of you tells lies?

Truth telling Angel Lie telling Angel
Answer Answer
1>This Direction 1>This Direction
2>I do 2>I do
3>he does 3> he does

So this is how it goes!!!
so compare your questions and get both their answers
PLZ come up wid an answer

Concord gave you the answer - you only have to ask one question (which is the normal way this puzzle is posed - that you only have one question).

Cheers,
Shafique

ask them if satan is an @$$ ?

the angel will say yes .
the devil won't

Same, same

Ask what will the other say and then go the opposite direction...


please complete the question "Ask what will the other say if I asked him ??????What?????

1. Pick any one of the guards.

2. Open mouth and say : "If I asked the other guard which door leads to heaven, what would he say?"

3. Listen to answer: "the other guard will tell you that door (points) leads to heaven"

4. Make note of what door is indicated in 3.

5. Take the other door.

6. Say 'thank you Concord'

1> you cant pick out only one gaurd

2>you dont know who you are gonna pick

3>you can do the same experiment with both

4>and watever you do you cant prove that you are gonna choose the right door to heaven

5>lets say u pick up the right guy he gonna tell you the other would tell you the way to hell then u go to heaven (clap,clap,clap)

6>but lets say u pick up the wrong guy he gonna tell you the other would tell you the way to heaven then u go to hell (thats clever), then what?

7> dont try to find the door but try to find the guy

What would you ask to determine which one is which?

I assume you want to know which Angel tells the truth and which one lies?

Ask the question: If I ask the other Angel if you lie all the time, what will he/she tell me?

The one who answers "No" to the question is the angel telling the truth

Proof:

Assume angel A tells the truth and Angel B tells Lies

If you ask the qustion, Do you lie all the time?"

Angel A will tell the truth -- No
Angel B will Lie -- No

Now if you ask the angels how the other Angel would have responded to the same question

Angel A will tell the truth -- No (as Angel B would have lied -- No)
Angel B will lie -- Yes (Angel A would have told the truth -- No)

deadlife wrote:1> you cant pick out only one gaurd

2>you dont know who you are gonna pick

3>you can do the same experiment with both

4>and watever you do you cant prove that you are gonna choose the right door to heaven

5>lets say u pick up the right guy he gonna tell you the other would tell you the way to hell then u go to heaven (clap,clap,clap)

6>but lets say u pick up the wrong guy he gonna tell you the other would tell you the way to heaven then u go to hell (thats clever), then what?

7> dont try to find the door but try to find the guy

Deadlife - the point is that whichever angel you pick, the question will work.

You only have a choice of 2 angels, one tells the truth other tells lies.

Let us say you ask the one telling the truth. He will tell you that the other guard will show you the door leading to Hell (because that is what the other guard will do, because the other guard will lie).

If you however ask the same question to the angel that lies, he will also point to the door leading to Hell (because the other angel will point to Heaven, but this angel will lie and tell you the opposite).

Therefore, whichever angel you ask the question to the answer will always be the door to hell. Therefore you just take the opposite door which will lead to heaven.

Only one question to one angel and you know which door leads to heaven.

Cheers,
Shafique

hey shafique.... that was a very nice and detailed explanation... hope deadlife picked it up....

and hey concord.... great answer.... so whats ur IQ level, if you are a MENSA member?

and one more thing... does MENSA conduct IQ tests here in UAE?

deadlife wrote:1> you cant pick out only one gaurd

It doesn't matter which one you pick, or if you pick both. They will both point to the door to hell.

2>you dont know who you are gonna pick

See 1.

3>you can do the same experiment with both

See 1.

4>and watever you do you cant prove that you are gonna choose the right door to heaven

See 1.

5>lets say u pick up the right guy he gonna tell you the other would tell you the way to hell then u go to heaven (clap,clap,clap)

See 1.

6>but lets say u pick up the wrong guy he gonna tell you the other would tell you the way to heaven then u go to hell (thats clever), then what?

See 1.

7> dont try to find the door but try to find the guy

I thought you asked for the door?

If you need to know where they're from, then reword the question to ask where the other one would say he is from.

Your avatar says genius. I guess it's from hell ?

Concord wrote:

deadlife wrote:You have to ask both

Same, same

Ask what will the other say and then go the opposite direction...

Now that this thread is dead n done with the puzzle.

Welcome back Conci.

Reminds me of the saying... "Don't ask a question unless you already know the answer"

Unfortunately, in this case, I don't think he knows the answer or the question...

hey craig thts funny
Just cuz u dnt understand anything
I will give u a call wen when we are playing cards and a jack is missing
What about tht?

I'm hilarious... Ask anyone around here. A regular joker in the deck.

But if you could tell teh difference between the Jack and the Joker, I'd be surprised.

Email me if you'd like a link....

you call ur dad
but his name is not dad
the same applies
And I appreciate your efforts but I dont know what went erong with you

my head hurts

And he's back.....

2 days and six hours for a response... And not a very good one at that.

shafique wrote:my head hurts

If only I could banish this thread to eternal damnation I would... .
But nah....It makes a hella lot of good reading with a stale coffee in the morning

Hey shafique..nice to see you here way up north from your usual lounge....having free time lately and needed some laughs maybe.....

reviewer wrote:

shafique wrote:my head hurts

If only I could banish this thread to eternal damnation I would... .
But nah....It makes a hella lot of good reading with a stale coffee in the morning

Hey shafique..nice to see you here way up north from your usual lounge....having free time lately and needed some laughs maybe.....

Yes, it's a bit quiet down there in the past few days after a flurry of activity over who said what to whom and why..

Which reminds me of this thread, and also this 'oldy' (which still cracks me up):

Secretary: - Mr. President, Condoleeza Rice is here to see you.
George B. : - Good, send her in.
Secretary: - Yessir.

(Hangs up. Condi enters.)

Condoleeza: - Good morning, Mr. President.
George B. : - Oh Condoleeza, nice to see you. What's happening?
Condoleeza : - Well, Mr. President, I have the report here about the new leader in China.
George B. : - Great, Condi. Lay it on me.
Condoleeza : - Mr. President, Hu is the new leader of China.
George B. : - Well, that's what I want to know.
Condoleeza : - But that's what I'm telling you, Mr. President.
George B. : - Well, that's what I'm asking you, Condie. Who is the new leader of China?
Condoleeza : - Yes.
George B. : - I mean the fellow's name.
Condoleeza : - Hu.
George B. : - The guy in China.
Condoleeza : - Hu.
George B. : - The new leader of China.
Condoleeza : - Hu.
George B. : - The Chinaman!
Condoleeza : - Hu is leading China, Mr. President.
George B. : - Whaddya' asking me for?
Condoleeza : - I'm telling you Hu is leading China.
George B. : - Well, I'm asking you, Condie. Who is leading China?
Condoleeza : - That's the man's name.
George B. : - That's who's name?
Condoleeza : - Yes.

(Pause.)

George B. : - Will you or will you not tell me the name of the new leader of China?
Condoleeza : - Yes, sir.
George B. : - Yassir? Yassir Arafat is in China? I thought he was in the Middle East.
Condoleeza : - That's correct.
George B. : - Then who is in China?
Condoleeza : - Yes, sir.
George B. : - Yassir is in China?
Condoleeza : - No, sir.
George B. : - Then who is?
Condoleeza : - Yes, sir.
George B. : - Yassir?
Condoleeza : - No, sir.

(Pause. Crumples paper)

George B. : - Condi, you're starting to piss me off now, and it's not 'cause you're black neither. I need to know the name of the new leader of China. So why don't you get me the Secretary General of the United Nations on the phone.
Condoleeza : - Kofi Annan?
George B. : - No, thanks. And Condi, call me George. Stop with that ebonics crap.
Condoleeza : - You want Kofi?
George B. : - No.
Condoleeza : - You don't want Kofi.
George B. : - No. But now that you mention it, I could use a glass of milk. And then get me the U.N.
Condoleeza : - Yes, sir.
George B. : - Not Yassir! The guy at the United Nations.
Condoleeza : - Kofi?
George B. : - Milk! Will you please make that call?
Condoleeza : - And call who?
George B. : - Well, who is the guy at the U.N?
Condoleeza : - No, Hu is the guy in China.
George B. : - Will you stay out of China?!
Condoleeza : - Yes, sir.
George B. : - And stay out of the Middle East! Just get me the guy at the U.N.
Condoleeza : - Kofi.
George B. : - All right! With cream and two sugars. Now get on the phone.

(Condi picks up the phone.)

Condoleeza : - Hello. Rice, here.
George B. : - Rice? Good idea. And get a couple of egg rolls, too, Condi. Maybe we should send some to the guy in China. And the Middle East. Can you get chinese food in the Middle East? I don't know.

haha shef u r getting nostalgic is it? worth a laugh even if one's hearing it the umpteenth time

never had such a laugh in the morning.....lovely it is.....thx shaf...

that dude needs a new brain