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Information that may save your life Dec 04, 2005
Let me first say this is my first time here, the reason I registered is to inform as many people in my community (Dubai in this case) about a hidden agenda that has been emerging for a very long time. I know some of you will call me paranoid and insane, but that I will leave up to you research the topics I'm presenting to you and you will know what I'm talking about.

I don't know if all of you already know this, but I will try to provide as much information as possible; first stop is the organizations that control our lives the big brother that is watching our every move not just in the Middle East but also in the US and Europe they watch everyone regardless of your race or religion....For any more information, comments, hate mail PM

NWO: The New World Order, first mentioned by president Bush 43, in an speech on 9/11....1990...guess what 11 years later this NWO has emerged stronger than ever...with martial law and draconion laws all over the world, they seek world domination, just like George Orwell's 1984, they will have us all strapped in jump suits being guided in everyway by Big Brother.

http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/

www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/

Read...This is what globalization is all about....forget what the puppets say..

Illuminati: A cult that follows a satanic religion which they claim to have orginated from the older religions of Babylon and Egypt, they have heirarchy of councils known as the council of 3 which is the highest in the pyramid structure and have the undisputed rule, they are all descendents from the same blood line the most notable of these are Queen Elizabeth of England, The Rothchilds of Bavaria, the Rockafellas in the US (who are also business partners with the Bush family). The Illuminati itself emerged in the 1776 by Adam Weishaupt, they claim to have started the French revolution, the Bolshvik (Russian revolution) as well as WWI and WWII.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati


Free Masons: Yet another cult, although 99% of them are unaware of what the 1%does, all they will tell you is that they provide alot of charity and do alot of good, and that it is not anti-religion, but hey if its all that good why is it a secret society? Alot of their symbols as well as the illuminati can be seen in big corporation logos and even currencies like the all seeing eye of the illuminati on the US dollar bill.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_masons

Bilderberg group: Thats not the name but it is named like that because thats where they first met, by they I mean the most influencial people in the world. This folks includes presidents, monarchs, CEOs, gun runners and that sort. Every year they meet in secret we are talking about decision makers making secret meetings and its known and nobody seems to do anything about it...they were the power that delayed the war on Iraq from 2002 to 2003

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderburg_group

There are other secret societies like the CFR and Trilail commision but for now lets talk about the most recent event...

9/11 2001

As a member on another forum gave an excellent detailed explaination of it please read it and learn it was posted by Sub-Zer0

Ok, this is to all of the people who still believe 9/11 was the work of 19 Arabic Hijackers and an operation entirely masterminded by Osama Bin Laden, mainly because he hates our freedom’s and disagrees with American Liberalism. Despite all of their hard work, the United States Government simply could not see the attack coming.

When one considers all of the hardcore facts, there is no way this excuse holds even a grain of truth in it. The official story is impossible and simply does not stand up to scrutiny. Even more laughable is the excuse given by government officials that it was simply a "failure of intelligence" and the attack could not be averted. Politicians should not even form their mouths to even use an incompetence excuse. Warnings were received by the US by at least 18 other countries, and agents in the CIA, and the FBI were warned. The FAA got warnings too. In fact,

Prior Knowledge:

CIA had high-jacker details
Taliban warned the US of huge attack
FBI warned of plot to high-jack planes in 1995
FBI warned of Suspicious flight student last yearCIA ignorned warnings of Al-Queda
US knew of Suicide highjack threat in 1995
The airlift of evil
Threat of US attacks passed Taliban weeks before the attacks
US clamps secrecy on attacks before 911


It seems that there were so many warnings, that


"The information provided by European intelligence services prior to 9/11 was so extensive that it is no longer possible for either the CIA or FBI to assert a defence of incompetence." Micheal Meacher, Tony Blairs former environmental advisor until 2003. London Guardian

In addition to these Government officials and other people received individuals warnings as well. Mayor Willie Brown was warned by Condoleezza Rice not to fly on 911, author Salmon Rushdie was publicly banned from flying before 911, and John Ashcroft former Attorney General stopped flying commercially six months before 911. Even some people working inside of the towers got instant messages, telling them to evacuate the WTC.

We must ask ourselves, where did all this prior knowledge come from, and why was it all ignored? Is it possible for that this much information of this magnitude of importance to get tangled up in a beaurecratic web of telephone lines? The answer is NO, people in side of the Trade Towers got INSTANT MESSAGES telling them the buildings were going to be destroyed two hours before it happened. You’re going to tell me someone can get an INSTANT MESSAGE to someone inside the World Trade Center two hours before the attack, but no one can get the message to the President of the United States? Bullshit. Condoleezza Rice calls Mayor Willie Brown and tells HIM not to fly, BUT SHE CAN'T CALL THE PRESIDENT AND TELL HIM TO STOP THE ATTACK?!?!?

Sources:

Odigo Says Workers Were Warned of the Attack
San Francisco Chronicle - Mayor Willie Brown got Low-Key Warning about Air Travel
The Truth Seeker-Condi Lisa Rice Warned Willie Brown and Told him not to fly on 911
CBS News - Ashcroft Flying High


In addition there are over 600 smoking gun holes and unanswered questions in the official story of 911; I'm only going to scratch the surface, w/ some of the main ones.

First thing is the NORAD stand down order.

"The first hijacking was suspected at not later than 8.20am, and the last hijacked aircraft crashed in Pennsylvania at 10.06am. Not a single fighter plane was scrambled to investigate from the US Andrews airforce base, just 10 miles from Washington DC, until after the third plane had hit the Pentagon at 9.38 am. Why not? There were standard FAA intercept procedures for hijacked aircraft before 9/11. Between September 2000 and June 2001 the US military launched fighter aircraft on 67 occasions to chase suspicious aircraft" (AP, August 13 2002)
guardian, once again

NORAD completely stood down, this is a clear violation of FAA flight regulations, and NORAD could have probably stopped the attack, at least partially. The morning of 911 NORAD was training in a war game of flying hijacked aircrafts into buildings ON the Morning of 911. On the Morning of 911??!?! Yep, the drill stopped just 50 minutes before the Hi-Jacking began. No wonder there was no Military Response, NORAD was told that the planes being Hijacked were just part of a drill. That's why they stood down.

What are the chances of this happening? It's just a coincidence that they were running a war-game drill of the same monumental event to be documented in history books for centuries? Of course it’s possible, but very unlikely.

This is so weird to have happened, and even weirder is the fact that this type of a wargame is going on the morning of 911. This type of event would be simmilar to seeing Oswald and the CIA training how to kill Kennedy in Dealy Plaza an hour before it happened.

Yahoo News - Agency planned exercise on Sept. 11 built around a plane crashing into a building
USA Today - NORAD has drills to use jets as weapons
Associated Press - Exercist built around crashing planes into buildings



In addition, the list of the 19 hijackers and their picture identification was assembled and aired just hours after the attack. How do we jump to the accusations that 19 suspects are guilty of 3,000 American murders when most, if not all of the evidence, is twisted metal and degenerated ashes that used to be people? Actually by the time the hijackers had their mug shots aired on TV, all of the crime scenes had been destroyed. Buildings one and two collapsed, as well as the mysterious building seven collapsing on its own, the plane that hit the pentagon decentegrated, and flight 93 was likely shot down, hours later we miraculously post all of their mug shots on the news? Damn, we must be good.

So how exactly did the United States leap to their allegations of guilt?

A travel bag belonging to one of the 911 hijackers was found at the airport after the attacks, absolutely ruling beyond any doubt, that this was the work of Al-Queda.

Question: Why would a hijacker, planning to commit suicide, even BRING A BAG? Let alone pack it w/ incriminating evidence sure to unleash a fire storm of military hell on all of his fellow Afghani people? The bag contained enough evidences to precisely tie the perpetrators to the Taliban and Al-Queda justify the assault in Afghanistan.
(911 the Great Illusion)

Answer: this is MANUFACTURED EVIDENCE


Now BBC has began running stories that many of these men have shown up as being still alive. 911 eleven Hijackers steal our planes to suicide attack us because were not doing what Allah says, and then they show up still being alive. So that means that at least five of the men on the hi-jackers list cannot be the same men who were on the plane. But the government has stuck to their official story on this, and no one in the mainstream media has ever brought this up, or challenged them on it. Many of the Hijackers are now appearing on television in their countries and professing their innocence. A lot of information like this has been circulating around other parts of the world, and it is likely part of the reason why America's image has dropped from negative to terrible. Most people in other countries know this is going on, but Americans are sleeping.


The Truth is unleashed in other parts of the world but it’s concealed from American eyes as a way to demonize Americans to the rest of the world, while American media demonizes the rest of the world (particularly Arabs) to America, this is a way of polarizing both side to inspire conflict on both sides.

Sources:


High JAck Suspects alive and well
High Jack Suspects Alive in Morroco


Bombs in the Towers




___ This next part is important, because it's hardcore vissual evidence of government involvement in 9/11 and is nearly impossible to deny.

Building seven, first of all, was the third building to collapse within the World Trade Center Complex. According to the government’s official story, building seven was destroyed from fire, along with buildings one and two.

Videos Show Building 7's 6.5 second symmetrical collapse



First of all it’s important to say that fire has never once brought a steel structure down. Out of 100 uncontrolled fires in the last 50 years NEVER has fire collapsed a steel building, only earthquakes and explosives have been able to flatten these architectural structures.

So, why is building seven so significant? It’s important because building seven collapsed without being struck by an airplane or anything else, almost as if it were the wind that knocked it over.

Several videos have been salvaged which show building seven's collapse and shocking evidence has surfaced from scrutiny.

CBS Broadcast of Buildinding Seven's fall - Dan Rather admits it looks like Explosives
Building Seven's Collapase from a mile away
Building Seven's Colapse from 1000 feet away, this is very obvious

You see, building seven DECENTEGRATED INTO RUBBLE in a vertical symmetrical fashion in 6.5 seconds. If building seven was taken down by an aircraft impact (even though it was not) it would have thrown back horizontally, transferring the energy away from the airplane impacts. And if it was fire that had brought it down, we would have seen the structure reduced into liquid metal, and the streets would be a river of flame. But this building simply fell straight to the ground and crumbled.

I need to explain something about controlled demolition. First of all, when buildings are demolished the explosives are placed in the central column, so the structure falls inwards and does not damage other surrounding buildings. So they only way the building can fall like this or fall period is through the use of explosives.

THE FEMA REPORT ON WORLD TRADE CENTER 7 COLLAPSE IS A TOTAL JOKE.



“Each of the following videos shows the entire visible portion of the building falling with a vertical precision otherwise seen only in controlled demolition. Moreover, they show that the collapse took only about 6.5 seconds from start to finish. That rate of fall is within a second of the time it would take an object to fall from the building's roof with no air resistance”





BUT, building seven is even more important because the offical story of building seven collapse is because it was damaged from fire, HOWEVER, Larry Silverstine the owner of buildings one, two, and seven, got on televiosn on America Rebuilds on PBS, and slipped up, ADMITTING, THAT HE BLEW UP BUILDING SEVEN, He Said "WE PULLED THE BUILDING!" Here's the video from the PBS documentary.

http://infowars.com/Video/911/wtc7_pbs.WMV

Here's another clip where a demolitions expert describes "PULL IT" As a controlled demolition.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/pullit2.mp3

NOW, it's extremely important to mention that rigging buildins with explosives is a tiresom and very time consuming process, and to properly plant explosives in mathematicaly harmonious fasion to create a smooth symetrical drop. Actually it would take weeks to prepare for the demolition. So not only does Larry Silverstine, the owner of the complex admit to blowing up building seven, But building seven COULD NOT have been demolished on such short notice. Weeks of demolitions planning does not jive well with Osama's suprise attack. In fact it's impossible.

Even some former Bush insiders have went public and stated that the offical story of the collapse is a complete fraud.

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking ... -6408r.htm


Good lookin to Dem Bruce Lee Stylez, and his MIGHTY nine eleven thread right here

Historical Comparison



----The Burning of the Reichstag



In 1933 Adolph Hitler wanted to seize dictotorial powers and turn Germany into a police state. So he set the massive governmental building on fire, that is known as the Reichstag (German Parliament) the blazing infernos sent the population into a state of petrified fear. Adolph Hitler and his party won by a landslide in the election just weeks later and later on was able to merge the Chancellor’s powers with that of the Presidents, and this is the origin of where his dictatorial power came from. Hitler also blamed the terrorist attack on the communists, and recived a pretext, or a reason, to attack them.


The real Pretext

Hitler’s conspiratorial tactic of burning the Reichstag to receive dictatorial power, and a pretext to attack his enemies is a method that is known as the Hegelian Dialectic, which is translated simply as problem, reaction, solution. The Hegelian Dialectic is a tactic that was developed by the 19th century German philosopher George Wilhelm Fredric Hegel. The way this works is, you create a crisis, the population is thrown into fear, and then you, the creator of the crisis, step in with a pre-organized solution, and pose as the savior. As soon as 911 occurred, literally while the smoke was still streaming from the building, politicians began targeting us with Doublethink approaches to get us to give up our freedom for security.

I don't want to digress too much, but this is important.

Doublethink is the practice of misrepresenting something bad as something good, such as pushing identity theft propaganda in order to get the people wanting a national ID card. This was the phrase coined in George Orwell's book 1984, which psychologically persuaded the population to relinquish there freedom unto big brother and simultaneously be happy about it. We see doublethink utilized daily by politicians.

The Hegelian Dialectic fused with the double think approach has given ruthless men an unbelievably effective tactic of power consolidation. But this time it's bigger,




PNAC(Project For a New American Centeury

The Project for a New American Century (PNAC) was founded by banana Chenney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Lewis Libby and others in 2000. This is a pro-globalization neo-con think tank. On his website banana Cheney lays out a Blueprint for America to invade many of it's neighbors and construct a "global command and control system" Cheney sites Syria, Libya, and North Korea as terrorist regimes, and uses their existence to justify invasions and restructuring there powers under a Pax America. It's strange, earlier in the year, Rumsfeld was selling Nuclear Reactors to North Korea. Now he's sitting in meetings at PNAC calling them a dangerous regime. HaHa, who made them more dangerous, Mr. Rumsfeld?
This document also mentions that public support would be very difficult to rally for these upcoming wars, and that a "Pearl Harbor Like Attack" would be very helpful. Now this is a public document, saying we need helpful Pearl Harbor attacks, that's motive, and practically admittance.

Sources:

PNAC offical site read the documents.
Meacher talks about PNAC too
Guardian UK - The Two Faces of Rumseld

Not only this, but


"the US and the UK, are running dangerously low on hydrocarbon energy supplies. And by 2010 the Muslim world will control as much as 60% of the worlds oil production, and 95% of the remaining exportable oil. "

Protecting oil supplies in a crisis
Taliban to Texas for Oil Talks
Bottom of the Barrel, the world is runnin out of oil, why do Politicans refuse to talk about it?
Threats of US to strike Taliban weeks before the attacks



Cui Bono(Who Benefits?)

Three Corporations involved in the war on terror/The World effort. They are the
Carlyle Group, Unocal, and Halliburton,

Carlyle group: Bush and the Bin Laden family are BOTH investors in this company, that is headed almost exclusively by former government officals. They develope missile targetting systems, and have exponenctially increased their profits since 911.


Unocal: Bush just hired the former CEO, I believe to his administration, others inside the camp are investors as well. This is the company building the pipeline through Afganistan, to route the oil out, they are poised to make a killing off of oil deals directly resulting from 911 after math.

Halliburton: I don't even half to say it. Well incase I do, Halliburton is a construction company rakeing in billions of dollars from rebuilding the spots on the map, after America destroys them.

And to top all that off,

"No serious attempt has ever been made to catch Bin Laden. In late September and early October 2001, leaders of Pakistan's two Islamist parties negotiated Bin Laden's extradition to Pakistan to stand trial for 9/11. However, a US official said, significantly, that "casting our objectives too narrowly" risked "a premature collapse of the international effort if by some lucky chance Mr Bin Laden was captured". The US chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, General Myers, went so far as to say that "the goal has never been to get Bin Laden" (AP, April 5 2002). The whistle blowing FBI agent Robert Wright told ABC News (December 19 2002) that FBI headquarters wanted no arrests. And in November 2001 the US air force complained it had had al-Qaida and Taliban leaders in its sights as many as 10 times over the previous six weeks, but had been unable to attack because they did not receive permission quickly enough (Time Magazine, May 13 2002). None of this assembled evidence, all of which comes from sources already in the public domain, is compatible with the idea of a real, determined war on terrorism"
Micheal Meacher

The War on terror is not the war on terror, it's putting the PNAC agenda into action.

Not only have they blatantly avoided chances to catch Bin Laden, but many reporters have written articles about top government officials holding the investigation in the dark, delaying them, and in some cases even protecting the terrorists. I'd post the actual document but I'm out of picture slots so you have to settle for the article, or research the rest yourself.

Bush restricts 911 probesTop Taladan leader freed by US
911 study hindered
Bush trying to hide 911 information
911 documents to sensitive for realse
Bush discourages 911 investagations
Times of India - Bush took FBI agents off the Trail of Bin Ladens
Guardian UK - Agent Blasts FBI over 11 Sept 'cover up'


Goes on and on


ILLUMINATI NEW WORLD ORDER, THE CARD GAME

Not only has PNAC directly stated that they want "helpful Pearl Harbor Attacks" in their offical documents, but a card game entitled Illuminati New World Order, surfaced in 1995, which discribed the events of 911 with a shocking level of acuracy. The game INWO contained cards that said the words "Terrorist Nuke" at the top with an illustration of the Twin Towers being destroyed clearly shows tower one being demolished first.



-This amazingly means, that this card predicted almost exacty what what happened in New York City, six years before the actual event. It also identifies the villians as "Terrorist" at the top, which was not a term used nearly as much before 911, I don't know about the nuke part, although explosives were definetly in use on September 11th.

-The explosion on the card is very close to the actual planes entry point.

-Another interesting thing to note, is the illuminati pyramid to the left of tower two.



This card is chilling. We know that the plane or the missile or whatever hit the pentagon, peirce through several walls puncturneing holes through several of the steel reinforced concrecte walls at the Pentagon, and actually exploded somwhere in the middle, Although it took out a wing, the rest of the pentagon was unscathed.

Here is a flash of the Pentagon which accurately shows the damage very simmilar to this card.

http://www.freedomunderground.org/memor ... n.php#Main

Funny how they got both of these right and didn't make any mistakes six years before the attack, perhaps someone had advanced knowledge of it.

On March 1st 1990 the Secret Service and Austin Police raided Steve Jackson, the maker of the game's, office and confiscated four of his computers. Steve JAckson games fought back in court, but nearly suffered bankrupcy in the process. The charges were so bogues on the affavid that the judge awarded $50,000 as well as attornies fees to SJG. It's strange the secret service would bother the manufactuer of a role playing game, perhaps it was to stop them from realeaseing Illuminati New World Order.

Here is the website of the game maker.
http://www.sjgames.com/inwo/

And props to the Cutting Edge for bringing this to my attention, most of what I have articulated is paraphrased from their article on INWO. Although theirs gets a bit too weird for me, here is the original article and props to them once again.


http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1753.cfm

The really scary thing is,


Home Land security = Police State Mechanism

New Laws in the Works, are...

Patriot Act: Old school now, Police and government officials do not need warrants to enter homes now, and can seize anything in your house, and not tell you they were there for 60 days. Also ambiguous language could allow for secret juryless trials and even executions for supposed "Terrorists". The definition of a terrorist as shown in the Patriot Act is one who commits "Any act that endangers human life, IN VIOLATION WITH ANY FEDERAL OR STATE LAW" So Jay walkers and pot dealers are terroist too. The Patriot Act has been used on many "domestic terrorists" for crimes such as being a gang member to writing a story here are some of the many examples, of new laws designateing all American citizens as enemeis of the state.




Pot dealears are terrorists now.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/l ... ng29m.html
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/349/creep.shtml
http://vancouver.cbc.ca/regional/servle ... ot20040805
http://talkleft.com/new_archives/007442.html

People who write storries about Zombies, are terrorists too,
http://www.lex18.com/Global/story.asp?S ... v=EQlpWjof
http://www.paxtonland.com/archives/2005/03/002907.php
http://minorkey.deviantart.com/journal/4729752/


Gang members are terrorists too
http://www.newstarget.com/003554.html
http://www.terroranalysis.com/story/107777.html
http://www.mydd.com/story/2004/12/30/23170/828

Who else?
People who own Toy Stores are being visited by Home Land Security, why would they do that?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=206591
http://www.stupidsecurity.com/article.p ... ode=thread
http://www.stupidsecurity.com/article.p ... ode=thread

Photographers have been arrested under the Patriot Act
http://grep.law.harvard.edu/article.pl? ... ode=thread

FBI says Patriot Act used in Vegas strip club corruption probe
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/ ... 21283.html
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metr ... probe.html
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stori ... 18511.html
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3540572/
http://news.neilrogers.com/news/article ... 11407.html



Anti-terror laws increasingly used against common criminals
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... DT0480.DTL

Shopkeeper deported from South Carolina under PATRIOT Act killed in Pakistan
http://www.unknownnews.net/030929dead.html

And there's even more examples of this here, I don't feel the need to post
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/oc ... iotact.htm


National ID cards, are also on the agenda which contain name, address the usual things, but also a finger and a retinal print, also rumors are circulating about a possible tracking chip inside of them. Homeland security had a fetish w/ RFID technology, and may use it to track us all w/ it through are cards.

We have the National all Prescriptions reporting act, which makes all of your medical drug information accessible by Federal agencies, all of them in fact since their all allowed sharing information now.

And the possible enactment of mandatory psychological testing for children and prescribing drugs without the parents consent.
There are also talks of extending the program to the entire population. (Note: The Forced psychological testing bill has already been passed, search “new freedom initiative” for more info)

AND the mother of them all of course, the Patriot Act II, while the first Patriot Act is just a destruction first, third, fourth and fifth amendments, Patriot Act II is a carbon copy of the powers that Hitler and Julius Caesar gave themselves
Patriot Act II creates an expanded definition for domestic terrorism, And it allows any terrorism act to result in the death penalty, allows federal access to your bank, educational, and financial records, and makes conspiracy to commit terror a crime with out endangering any life what so ever. And amazingly makes information gathering illegal, in fact this post right here would go under the heading of "Info Terrorism"

Patriot act II is enormously unpopular, and received massive amounts of bad press, so it's being passed in smaller increments, 10% of it has already been passed as HR2417, which allows for the pulling of all Financial and Medical transcripts.

"Strengthening Patriot Act I is code for passing Patriot Act 2."
There trying to do this now.


Summary:


911 was such a cataclysmic event, it galvanized both the idiots and the intellectuals of America into a flag waving frenzy for nearly five years. 911 has become a never ending excuse to fight any war over seas, and implement any authoritarian rule domestically. Politicians were so quick to exploit this event, jumping in there tanks and battle suits while rushing 1000 page bills through the Senate and House. One has to wonder, why the knee jerk reaction of this attack was to shift into throwing a doublethink deception at the people, telling them to give up freedom for liberty before the smoke had yet to even clear from the air.

Giving up freedom for Liberty is a False Paradigm. No Liberty = Tyranny.

As the Roman judges used to say when a crime was committed, “key bono?”, or who benefits? The globalists who masterminded this attack want authoritarian control of America, invasion into uncontrolled Arab states, and overall a world climate that is so dangerous and unstable, the people will beg them for a one world government. A government ruled by them. Order out of chaos.

I've developed quite a case here, and I think my arguments are supported extremely well, even without all of my information on the towers; this is very strong evidence that we are being lied too, almost on a daily basis. Most of this literally proves the official story is a fraud and there's a lot of things I chose not to talk about, like 100s of Al-Queda and Taliban being flown out after 911, Insider trading right before 911, or Bush pulling FBI agents off of the Trail of the Bin Laden right before 911 (Edit: I did touch on that) and signing documents to protect them. However I've come to the conclusion that in this instance, the problem is there is actually TOO MUCH evidence here, so I won't even bother with the links for my last claims.

If you think I've made a compelling case, than I urge you learn more about this, because if I'm even remotely correct, and this New World Order aka the "Global Union" is created, by the same creatures who carried out this attack, I don't think your going to want to live under the tyranny grids they've constructed for you. I'm not charging the government with carrying this out, but these Rogue elements with tentacles into our government, who live in families who are worth five times as much as our countries annual budget. If you look more into this, I know you'll see that what I'm saying is true, this is what has happened with me. So please spread this thread around as much as you can, watch some of these movies I post at the bottom, PLEASE look into this more. I know when you find out what I'm saying is real, you'll fight it with even more compassion.

In the past only small pockets of people have had information on this subject, which served to cloak events in a protective secrecy. But lately a plethora of new information has been consolidated, creating an incredibly chaotic environment for the globalist where the risk of mass exposure is becoming very real. So once you learn, please spread this information on to others.

This is an information war, against elites with 90% of the wealth trying to control the political and financial systems to control mankind, and doing it for there own selfish desires. And information of this type is so much more powerful than any gun or grenade or tank or anything. Every single word we spew of resistance is a bullet, discharged from a chamber and sent into the heart of the New World Order Demon, and it will take a lot to kill it, but humanity will prevail.

911 Documentaries


Martial Law: 911 Rise of the Police State (The best damn 911 movie ever made)

Windows Media Player:
Broadband:

http://www.revradio.org/movies/ml.wmv

Dial up:

http://www.revradio.org/movies/ml56k.wmv

Stream:

Broadband:

http://www.revradio.org/movies/ml.wmx

Dial up:

http://www.revradio.org/movies/ml56k.wmx

911- The Road To Tyranny

Paineful Deceptions
Painful Deceptions DVD Part 1 (pentagon)
Painful Deceptions DVD Part 2 (building 7 and the two towers)
Painful Deceptions DVD Part 3 (media propaganda)

The Masters of terror
2:00:09
http://thewebfairy.com/video/collected/ ... 28KBps.wmv

911 Truth and Lies 4 parts

http://www.illuminaticonspiracy.org/fil ... sPart1.wmv
http://www.illuminaticonspiracy.org/fil ... sPart2.wmv
http://www.illuminaticonspiracy.org/fil ... sPart3.wmv
http://www.illuminaticonspiracy.org/fil ... sPart4.wmv

Michael Parenti-Terrorism, Globalism and Conspiracy
http://www.workingtv.com/media5/parenti1.wmv
http://www.workingtv.com/media5/parenti2.wmv
http://www.workingtv.com/media5/parenti3.wmv
http://www.workingtv.com/media5/parenti4.wmv
http://www.workingtv.com/media5/parenti5.wmv

Illuminazi 9-11
http://www.nwowatcher.com/downloads/illuminazi.wmv

The Microchip
http://www.nwowatcher.com/downloads/The%20Microchip.wmv

Free ebooks

The Secret Rituals of the O.T.O. (Illuminati, Templars, Freemasons, etc.).pdf
Order Out of Chaos - Paul Joseph Watson
A Chronological History of the New World Order - Denis Cuddy
Conspiracy ebook - The New World Order - Milton William Cooper
Global Tyranny Step by Step - By WIlliam F. Jasper


A shit load more Documentaries and ebooks can be found here


NOW the most recent 7/7 London bombing:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/au ... alword.htm

http://www.infowars.net/Pages/Aug05/020805Aswat.html

Please check these links as they will provide you with the best information

Now as I said before, research and read and then PM if you have any comments or need extra help or information....[/img]

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oh my God i seems u have written a thesis or just cut and pasted from other site.
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dude someone needs to tell this guy Dan Brown books are in the FICTION section :)
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And someone needs to tell you that you are a sheeple, you actually believe what the government is telling you even though they keep lying and its even admited by mainstream media...elections have been rigged, wars manufactured, freedom taken away for martial law and you are still saying its fiction, I really feel sorry for you
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lone_wolf wrote:And someone needs to tell you that you are a sheeple, you actually believe what the government is telling you even though they keep lying and its even admited by mainstream media...elections have been rigged, wars manufactured, freedom taken away for martial law and you are still saying its fiction, I really feel sorry for you


all right what can we do? blow em? shit happens everywhere. just last week president of malaysia was rite in saying UN is most undemocratic organisation in the world. What can one do about it?
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No don't answer violence for violence or else you'd be no better than they are, what you can do is just research don't take my word or there word for it, research and look for official documents and credible resources...the way to fight it is by information...the infowar is our war, you fight them by spreading as much information as possible and wake more people to the truth thats how you fight them.
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Let me guess, you've also seen UFOs and been abducted by little green men.
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Just because you don't agree with me does not give you the right to bash my ideas, be more mature before you voice your opinion you got something useful to say then say it...you wanna be a troll then the best cure for that is to take a chill pill...and what I'm saying has nothing to do with aliens
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So who dictates whether your's or my opinion is useful? If that's you then you've just spat at your own views.

We're both trolls with our own opionions, difference being I'm not a troll that writes a novel and pushes it as 'truths' via this median.
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I'm not shoving anything down your throat as truth,but instead of attacking my points with calling me paranoid and what not which is what a troll means btw give me something to refute what I'm saying. Here are the links that you requested in another thread go on and read them it might open your eyes. Although Icannot cover all the holes in the official story because this would take ages but I will cover for you the most important ones

19 Arab Hijackers

Suspects alive and well

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle ... 559151.stm
(BBC another credible news agency?)

Hijack suspect alive in Morocco

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle ... 558669.stm

Now you should note that the official story still didn't change even though the supposed hijackers 4 of them turned out to be alive and well and one died in 2000 which is prior to the attacks.

The 911 official report is a total joke

Morgan Reynolds a former Bush administration team member says its a fraud
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking ... -6408r.htm
(washington times wow yet another credible news agency)

9/11 terror drill same day,same place wow! what a coincidence same thing happened in 7/7 as well.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington ... orad_x.htm

http://www.boston.com/news/packages/sep ... ercise.htm

http://www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/We ... ilding.htm

For 7/7 I've already provided a couple of links if you need them posted again let me know

Warnings recieved by officials but not given to people inside the WTC

http://www.sfgate.com/today/0912_chron_mnreport.shtml

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/ ... 3601.shtml

Now these are some of the things of why I believe it was an inside job...now I want your point of view if you disagree with me that it was not carried out by the government then show me why and "Because bush said so" doesn't count
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If you have a read I never mentioned about shoving anything down anyone's throats nor did I say you were paranoid. I never actually refuted any of your points, maybe you are paranoid afterall? I simply 'attacked' your notion that your opinions are deemed valid, as they are yours and anything against that doesn't register.

And I never requested any links. To quote something you may be familiar with:

lone_wolf wrote:it seems that you are so sucked into the internet that you have problems distinguishing between whats real and whats not
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Do you even read your own posts??

XRW-147

Let me guess, you've also seen UFOs and been abducted by little green men.


XRW-147

Pot, kettle, black. Where are you quoting your 'research' material from?


XRW-147

If you have a read I never mentioned about shoving anything down anyone's throats nor did I say you were paranoid


Do I need to say more??
now I believe this conversation is OVER :roll:
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Ok, so you did see my posts, but again, failed to read them.

Since I don't read my own posts, which obviously you have, please point out to me where I have said you have shoved something down someone's throat or where you were paranoid?

I said [sarcasticly] that you must have seen UFOs and have been abducted by little green men - meaning: I think you are crazy, not paranoid, just plain crazy.

Second quote: you accused another member of being fixated with the things on the internet, when in fact all that you believe in is from the internet - biggest irony of all.

Enjoy the cyber world buddy :) I'll visit u if one of your loved ones does society a favor and commits you to a ward. Heck, I'll even sneak in a conspiracy or two to fill your existence with a twinkling of hope.
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I'm not gonna get sucked into this stupity you wanna be a kid about it go talk to someone who cares otherwise as I said before this conversation is over and please just go do something more useful with your time I'm only interested in a mature and fruitful conversation. I'm not interested in trolls
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You expect a mature and fruitful conversation when all you do is avoid questions and call people trolls? Thats beyond ignorant and is just plain immature.

You've still not answered any questions in a valid manner. Either you just don't understand or maybe you're lacking in the intellectual department. Either way all I see is you trying to avoid questions with sideline antics and throwing back insults with no justifications. Go ahead, QUIT.
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XRW-147<----Troll
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Nice, that's really mature :)

So IQ tests don't lie, single digits equates to incapacity for intellectual thought, rhyme or reason.

Haven't you dug yourself into a deep enough hole? Or do you need someone to pass u down another shovel?
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After reading some of that i got a headache,,,,, if it is true then damn i aint leaving the house!!!!
Also be carefull XRW-147 he might put a hex on you as hes into the occult...lool :twisted:
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thats a lot to read boy..
can somebody make bullet points outa those? :roll:
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This is the compact version I will include links so if you want to view a certain topic you can just click on the link and you will get there;

1 - FEMA which is a federal organization in the US that only deals with disasters were infact in NY prior to 9-11, they came there at 9-10..even though there was no disaster. This link talks about it extensively includes audio file as well
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fematape.html

2- 6 of the 19 hijackers are alive and well, plus one of the supposed hijackers died in 2000...unless he is a walking dead zombie I don't think he is capable of flying a plane...this has not been corrcted in the original report btw.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle ... 559151.stm

3 - The Pentagon was supposedly hit by a plane which is the same size as the ones that hit the WTC, yet if you look at the crash there are no wings or propeller engine or anything that indicates it was a plane...

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_p ... esses.html

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/pentagon.swf

http://home.comcast.net/~skydrifter/exp.htm

4 - The Pancake theory of 9-11 doesn't match Newton's law, unless Newton was wrong about all of his theories and they have a new type o phsyics that I'm unaware of..The building fell straight down, this is what demolition experts call implosion

http://www.911review.com/attack/wtc/implosion.html

5 - Larry Silverstein lease owner of the WTC, was noted to have insured the WTC against terrorist attacks just a few months before 9-11 and his claim was in billions of dollars...He also said that building no.7 which was not struck by a plane or had any kind of attack on it that he had to demolish it because of the fires in it..the funny thing is it takes weeks of preperation to demolish a building with explosives..but nobody questions him.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/eyewitness.html

6 - The cell phone calls that were reported coming from people on the planes, all tests that were conducted proved that its impossible to make a call from the altitude which the planes supposedly had.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO408B.html

7 - The evidence that connects the Arab hi-jackers is a bag conviniently left in the airport that gives all information and pictures of the hijackers and there connection to Al-Qaida...if you were going to do something like that why bring incriminating evidence with you? Even if it was to brag about it Bin Laden has never said that he did it, he denied.

http://www.rense.com/general51/fatal.htm

8 - Fire that caused the buildings to collapse....steel melts at 2000 degrees...the fire was reported to be 1500 degrees, plus the WTC had fire proof coating on it....so how come fire made it collapse?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds12.html

http://www.serendipity.li/wot/mslp_i.htm

9 - Officials were warned of the attack, why wasn't the public warned...why weren't any of those 3000 innocent people warned? for God's sake do they have no humanity left in them watching people fall from a burning sky scrapper and refusing to help them?!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/ ... 3601.shtml

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1000

http://www.sfgate.com/today/0912_chron_mnreport.shtml

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages ... ID=/has%5C

10 - On the morning of 9-11 there were terror drills with the exact same scenario that is why NORAD (the airforce defense system) was ordered to stand down when they requested to intercept the second plane.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington ... orad_x.htm


There are still other points as well but I tried to organize it as best as possible hope it helps.
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Rosie wrote:Also be carefull XRW-147 he might put a hex on you as hes into the occult...lool :twisted:


Damn it Rosie, now you have me shaking in my shoes ;)

Anyone seen the movie "Dude where's my car?"? Bet lonely dogg here would love to get his hands on one of those intergalactic spacesuits :D
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aaaaaahahahahahah......very good! yeah saw the movie and very true.
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are u guyz actually saying that u dont beleive this stuff?
after all the evidence?
its right in our faces and yet were so blind!
this is a reality, but if u wanna ignore it its ur loss
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XRW-147 wrote:You expect a mature and fruitful conversation when all you do is avoid questions and call people trolls? Thats beyond ignorant and is just plain immature.

You've still not answered any questions in a valid manner. Either you just don't understand or maybe you're lacking in the intellectual department. Either way all I see is you trying to avoid questions with sideline antics and throwing back insults with no justifications. Go ahead, QUIT.


XRW why be an @ss? His command of english and intellectual capability is way far better than yours.

ADVICE To improve your english try reading his posts! :lol:
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lone_wolf wrote:This is the compact version I will include links so if you want to view a certain topic you can just click on the link and you will get there;




thnx wolf.. I will make it a point to go through it
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sniper420 wrote:XRW why be an @ss? His command of english and intellectual capability is way far better than yours.

ADVICE To improve your english try reading his posts! :lol:


Your obviously a good judge of english with your grammatically correct statements? "way far better" May be you need to grammer check your posts before trying to be 'smart'? Or are you still learning the alphabet in the leg up program?
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XRW-147 wrote:
sniper420 wrote:XRW why be an @ss? His command of english and intellectual capability is way far better than yours.

ADVICE To improve your english try reading his posts! :lol:


Your obviously a good judge of english with your grammatically correct statements? "way far better" May be you need to grammer check your posts before trying to be 'smart'? Or are you still learning the alphabet in the leg up program?


well just bcos ur nerd tutor can't translate in Chinese doesnt mean that's "bad" english. If ur nerd tutor checks for grammatical error everytime he posts doesnt mean I have to follow the suit. Y spend moeny hiring a nerd and going through the hassle of messing with me. Ur english sucks and that's the end of discussion.

Advice Try reading lone wolf's or Liban's to learn intermediate level of english, for advanced read mine eventhough I know nothing would go through your thick skull... :lol:
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hey can someone just give me a short summary of what the dude wrote...
i dont wanna read this much...
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sniper420 wrote:well just bcos ur nerd tutor can't translate in Chinese doesnt mean that's "bad" english. If ur nerd tutor checks for grammatical error everytime he posts doesnt mean I have to follow the suit. Y spend moeny hiring a nerd and going through the hassle of messing with me. Ur english sucks and that's the end of discussion.

Advice Try reading lone wolf's or Liban's to learn intermediate level of english, for advanced read mine eventhough I know nothing would go through your thick skull... :lol:


Do you always resort to name calling, racist insults or 'slagging off' when someone show's u up? Ironic and typical of a teenage 'nerd', or maybe mongolia's education system only extends as far as knuckle dragging and flea picking?

I would have thought u'd be getting sick of being laughed at by now?
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