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argggggggghhh!! Take up any webpage n there comes half a page advertisement overlapping the actual content. try to click close ad.. n it doesnt close..
some technology improvements are only meant for making more money..ajax,web parts, portlets et al...hmm

St.Lucifer wrote:argggggggghhh!! Take up any webpage n there comes half a page advertisement overlapping the actual content. try to click close ad.. n it doesnt close..
some technology improvements are only meant for making more money..ajax,web parts, portlets et al...hmm

AJAX has its benefits, but like Flash, it has been hijacked by people trying to turn the internet into TV.

St.Lucifer wrote:argggggggghhh!! Take up any webpage n there comes half a page advertisement overlapping the actual content. try to click close ad.. n it doesnt close..
some technology improvements are only meant for making more money..ajax,web parts, portlets et al...hmm

This implies that there are some technological advances that have been achieved for alltuistic purposes.

Dubaidude007 wrote:

St.Lucifer wrote:argggggggghhh!! Take up any webpage n there comes half a page advertisement overlapping the actual content. try to click close ad.. n it doesnt close..
some technology improvements are only meant for making more money..ajax,web parts, portlets et al...hmm

This implies that there are some technological advances that have been achieved for alltuistic purposes.

Apart from HTML which was written with communication in mind.

Still nothing better than a well designed website in plain old HTML.

^ian^ wrote:

Dubaidude007 wrote:

St.Lucifer wrote:argggggggghhh!! Take up any webpage n there comes half a page advertisement overlapping the actual content. try to click close ad.. n it doesnt close..
some technology improvements are only meant for making more money..ajax,web parts, portlets et al...hmm

This implies that there are some technological advances that have been achieved for alltuistic purposes.

Apart from HTML which was written with communication in mind.

Still nothing better than a well designed website in plain old HTML.

Dont agree to the HTML part.... its a bit like saying if we all walk there would b no car accidents..and they only had mark up in mind when they came out with html..hm.. as fars as i know..

St.Lucifer wrote:

^ian^ wrote:

Dubaidude007 wrote:

St.Lucifer wrote:argggggggghhh!! Take up any webpage n there comes half a page advertisement overlapping the actual content. try to click close ad.. n it doesnt close..
some technology improvements are only meant for making more money..ajax,web parts, portlets et al...hmm

This implies that there are some technological advances that have been achieved for alltuistic purposes.

Apart from HTML which was written with communication in mind.

Still nothing better than a well designed website in plain old HTML.

Dont agree to the HTML part.... its a bit like saying if we all walk there would b no car accidents..and they only had mark up in mind when they came out with html..hm.. as fars as i know..

I often think Flash websites are more laziness than progress. Many do exactly the same thing that you can do in HTML, just designed in Flash out of sheer laziness.

Or the website that is a whole image sliced up... blech!

The art is in the simplicity, and not ever placing form over function.

I thought this post was about football (soccer)

Agree with most of the Flash based sites.. but there are some notably good designers too.. HTML is still the best markup for presentation.. nothign has/can really replace(d) it....but ofcourse it is very limited in programming terms..

St.Lucifer wrote:Agree with most of the Flash based sites.. but there are some notably good designers too.. HTML is still the best markup for presentation.. nothign has/can really replace(d) it....but ofcourse it is very limited in programming terms..

Well, there's a strong trend towards CSS these days which I think goes beyond strict 'HTML'. For me it's a trend towards unnecessary complexity and therefore I do not like it.

Not to be confused with XML though, which I fully support.

^ian^ wrote:

St.Lucifer wrote:Agree with most of the Flash based sites.. but there are some notably good designers too.. HTML is still the best markup for presentation.. nothign has/can really replace(d) it....but ofcourse it is very limited in programming terms..

Well, there's a strong trend towards CSS these days which I think goes beyond strict 'HTML'. For me it's a trend towards unnecessary complexity and therefore I do not like it.

Not to be confused with XML though, which I fully support.

HTML is clearly a mark up langauge.. CSS has been there for a long time as well... While HTML does the mark up CSS concentrates on the presentation or say the color, lay out font head presentation.. its more of a natural evolution that came out of HTML's growth.. earlier days styling/presentation used to be just a part of the content itself.. i remember during my school days it wasnt seperated for the first few exercises..but as it grew the thought it'd b better if they kept styles and content seperate.. and they came up with CSS or an earlier version of what we see today.
What ever may b the programming back end (.net, php, jsp et al) what the server spits out on a request in most of the cases is still the basic html with css.
about XML.. apart from the similarity in name, it can hardly be compared to HTML..or even its erstwhile superset sgml..
Its now an open standard.. its used for content storage.. (like html).. and mixed with XSL and XSLT can be used for a powerful user driven lay out experience..its used in web services, SVG etc and even can b used as a light weight database..

St.Lucifer wrote:

^ian^ wrote:

St.Lucifer wrote:Agree with most of the Flash based sites.. but there are some notably good designers too.. HTML is still the best markup for presentation.. nothign has/can really replace(d) it....but ofcourse it is very limited in programming terms..

Well, there's a strong trend towards CSS these days which I think goes beyond strict 'HTML'. For me it's a trend towards unnecessary complexity and therefore I do not like it.

Not to be confused with XML though, which I fully support.

HTML is clearly a mark up langauge.. CSS has been there for a long time as well... While HTML does the mark up CSS concentrates on the presentation or say the color, lay out font head presentation.. its more of a natural evolution that came out of HTML's growth.. earlier days styling/presentation used to be just a part of the content itself.. i remember during my school days it wasnt seperated for the first few exercises..but as it grew the thought it'd b better if they kept styles and content seperate.. and they came up with CSS or an earlier version of what we see today.
What ever may b the programming back end (.net, php, jsp et al) what the server spits out on a request in most of the cases is still the basic html with css.
about XML.. apart from the similarity in name, it can hardly be compared to HTML..or even its erstwhile superset sgml..
Its now an open standard.. its used for content storage.. (like html).. and mixed with XSL and XSLT can be used for a powerful user driven lay out experience..its used in web services, SVG etc and even can b used as a light weight database..

Are you telling me or the rest of the world?

^ian^ wrote:

St.Lucifer wrote:

^ian^ wrote:

St.Lucifer wrote:Agree with most of the Flash based sites.. but there are some notably good designers too.. HTML is still the best markup for presentation.. nothign has/can really replace(d) it....but ofcourse it is very limited in programming terms..

Well, there's a strong trend towards CSS these days which I think goes beyond strict 'HTML'. For me it's a trend towards unnecessary complexity and therefore I do not like it.

Not to be confused with XML though, which I fully support.

HTML is clearly a mark up langauge.. CSS has been there for a long time as well... While HTML does the mark up CSS concentrates on the presentation or say the color, lay out font head presentation.. its more of a natural evolution that came out of HTML's growth.. earlier days styling/presentation used to be just a part of the content itself.. i remember during my school days it wasnt seperated for the first few exercises..but as it grew the thought it'd b better if they kept styles and content seperate.. and they came up with CSS or an earlier version of what we see today.
What ever may b the programming back end (.net, php, jsp et al) what the server spits out on a request in most of the cases is still the basic html with css.
about XML.. apart from the similarity in name, it can hardly be compared to HTML..or even its erstwhile superset sgml..
Its now an open standard.. its used for content storage.. (like html).. and mixed with XSL and XSLT can be used for a powerful user driven lay out experience..its used in web services, SVG etc and even can b used as a light weight database..

Are you telling me or the rest of the world?

dont know yoa background mate.. dint mean a lecture.. but i thought you werent sure abt it.. so yeah it was 4u.

St.Lucifer wrote:

^ian^ wrote:

St.Lucifer wrote:

^ian^ wrote:

St.Lucifer wrote:Agree with most of the Flash based sites.. but there are some notably good designers too.. HTML is still the best markup for presentation.. nothign has/can really replace(d) it....but ofcourse it is very limited in programming terms..

Well, there's a strong trend towards CSS these days which I think goes beyond strict 'HTML'. For me it's a trend towards unnecessary complexity and therefore I do not like it.

Not to be confused with XML though, which I fully support.

HTML is clearly a mark up langauge.. CSS has been there for a long time as well... While HTML does the mark up CSS concentrates on the presentation or say the color, lay out font head presentation.. its more of a natural evolution that came out of HTML's growth.. earlier days styling/presentation used to be just a part of the content itself.. i remember during my school days it wasnt seperated for the first few exercises..but as it grew the thought it'd b better if they kept styles and content seperate.. and they came up with CSS or an earlier version of what we see today.
What ever may b the programming back end (.net, php, jsp et al) what the server spits out on a request in most of the cases is still the basic html with css.
about XML.. apart from the similarity in name, it can hardly be compared to HTML..or even its erstwhile superset sgml..
Its now an open standard.. its used for content storage.. (like html).. and mixed with XSL and XSLT can be used for a powerful user driven lay out experience..its used in web services, SVG etc and even can b used as a light weight database..

Are you telling me or the rest of the world?

dont know yoa background mate.. dint mean a lecture.. but i thought you werent sure abt it.. so yeah it was 4u.

You do realise you're speaking to Dr. D right?

^^^^ Damn.. i almost forgot abt it.. was living in the dreamworld for sometime.. thinkin that DR.D is not in here anymore..

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