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Wow! 3 wickets in the last over for Australia to win!

Wow!

Ponting was angry though......

vicks_20012 wrote:Ponting was angry though......

He looked pretty happy on TV. Kumble... not so much.

He looked pretty happy on TV. Kumble... not so much.

...That's because Ponting was playing with 2 extra plyers on his side

iceman wrote:

He looked pretty happy on TV. Kumble... not so much.

...That's because Ponting was playing with 2 extra plyers on his side

That's no way to talk about Ganguly and Dravid.

Agreed you are a great oz fan.. but no great sportsmanship there.. How can one team have most of the decision go aginst them? and now a ban against someone who made ponting look like a donkey in a las vigas (is its the new UAE spelling as written on a signboard on the Dubai - Fujairah road) casino.
Dont charge me for racial abuse for the Donkey usage bro!.

St.Lucifer wrote:Agreed you are a great oz fan.. but no great sportsmanship there.. How can one team have most of the decision go aginst them? and now a ban against someone who made ponting look like a donkey in a las vigas (is its the new UAE spelling as written on a signboard on the Dubai - Fujairah road) casino.
Dont charge me for racial abuse for the Donkey usage bro!.

How can you say that the bad umpiring decisions are Australia's responsibility thus bad sportsmanship? As you are aware, umpires are neutral. You know, the umpiring also went against Australia as both Sachin and Ganguly were plum LBW on low scores.

Lets see if Indian fans can behave better than their Pakistani bretheren from over the border. The world is watching.

^ian^ wrote:

St.Lucifer wrote:Agreed you are a great oz fan.. but no great sportsmanship there.. How can one team have most of the decision go aginst them? and now a ban against someone who made ponting look like a donkey in a las vigas (is its the new UAE spelling as written on a signboard on the Dubai - Fujairah road) casino.
Dont charge me for racial abuse for the Donkey usage bro!.

How can you say that the bad umpiring decisions are Australia's responsibility thus bad sportsmanship? As you are aware, umpires are neutral. You know, the umpiring also went against Australia as both Sachin and Ganguly were plum LBW on low scores.

Lets see if Indian fans can behave better than their Pakistani bretheren from over the border. The world is watching.

The umpires had a shocker ans ruined the game.
Symonds should have walked if he knew that he was out.

benwj wrote:

^ian^ wrote:

St.Lucifer wrote:Agreed you are a great oz fan.. but no great sportsmanship there.. How can one team have most of the decision go aginst them? and now a ban against someone who made ponting look like a donkey in a las vigas (is its the new UAE spelling as written on a signboard on the Dubai - Fujairah road) casino.
Dont charge me for racial abuse for the Donkey usage bro!.

How can you say that the bad umpiring decisions are Australia's responsibility thus bad sportsmanship? As you are aware, umpires are neutral. You know, the umpiring also went against Australia as both Sachin and Ganguly were plum LBW on low scores.

Lets see if Indian fans can behave better than their Pakistani bretheren from over the border. The world is watching.

The umpires had a shocker ans ruined the game.
Symonds should have walked if he knew that he was out.

But he didn't, so be it. I am sure he's not the first player that stood his ground and waited for the umpire's finger. The fact that he wasn't given out is more to do with bad umpiring than anything else.

^ian^ wrote:

benwj wrote:

^ian^ wrote:

St.Lucifer wrote:Agreed you are a great oz fan.. but no great sportsmanship there.. How can one team have most of the decision go aginst them? and now a ban against someone who made ponting look like a donkey in a las vigas (is its the new UAE spelling as written on a signboard on the Dubai - Fujairah road) casino.
Dont charge me for racial abuse for the Donkey usage bro!.

How can you say that the bad umpiring decisions are Australia's responsibility thus bad sportsmanship? As you are aware, umpires are neutral. You know, the umpiring also went against Australia as both Sachin and Ganguly were plum LBW on low scores.

Lets see if Indian fans can behave better than their Pakistani bretheren from over the border. The world is watching.

The umpires had a shocker ans ruined the game.
Symonds should have walked if he knew that he was out.

But he didn't, so be it. I am sure he's not the first player that stood his ground and waited for the umpire's finger. The fact that he wasn't given out is more to do with bad umpiring than anything else.

And Ponting, and Hussey, and Clark and etc etc.. It sure doesnt make news in Aussie dressing room.

There's always diff ways to get through the guilt. One of it is.. yeah so what.. we dint walk off even after giving a straight catch to slip or after being bowled and appealed for no catches and claimed catches that are grounded etcc.. thats' umpiring fault. nothing to do with our sportsmanship.

And I really dont think world has to see more of pacifist state of Inidan players and fans on the sports field. Hmm debating on who is behaved could be a different story altogether.

St.Lucifer wrote:And Ponting, and Hussey, and Clark and etc etc.. It sure doesnt make news in Aussie dressing room.

There's always diff ways to get through the guilt. One of it is.. yeah so what.. we dint walk off even after giving a straight catch to slip or after being bowled and appealed for no catches and claimed catches that are grounded etcc.. thats' umpiring fault. nothing to do with our sportsmanship.

As opposed to racially slurring an opponent? Which is everything to do with sportsmanship.

And I really dont think world has to see more of pacifist state of Inidan players and fans on the sports field. Hmm debating on who is behaved could be a different story altogether.

Well, India is looking pretty bad at the moment:

* blaming the umpires even though both teams copped bad decision
* players banned for racism
* threatening to pull out of tour - sour grapes

One wonders if you would be complaining so much if India was up 2-0... I doubt it, but the bottom line is the team is not good enough.

Watching the play yesterday morning, when Australia were batting the 1st session Kumble just sat on his bum waiting for Ponting to declare. If India really knew how to win a test match, that was the time they should have fired up, and that first session is what essentially handed Australia the game.

As it was, it was very close to being a draw, and as much as India tried to slow the game down (sending a batsman out with two right gloves?!??! again where's the sportsmanship?) the inevitable transpired, and in fantastic fashion.

India didn't win the game because they were never good enough to win the game. You can blame everyone else in the world, but the team should shutup and accept responsibility.

Hmm I've no qualms abt the better team winning. But if the world number one team needs the umpire's help to remain world number one.. Cant say anything abt it mate. and racial abuse.. we all know who's better at it. Aussie's started it.. and i was pretty amused to know that they cant take back anything. And for reasons unknown to me.. what is the basis for terming the word monkey as racist..in that case.. calling clark a pup is racist too???

And there again the decision went to aussie favour. with no evidence suppor the claim.. the official took Ponting's words i gues.. to decide the case.. much like the rest of the match..it was him who was giving the decisions...

Ofcourse it is sourgrapes.. but the fact remains that when u are a world leadnig team u've to behave like one too.. heard of fairplay?

waiting to see how hogg's case turns out.

Well, the dummy spit continues.

India is pulling out and going home.

^ian^ wrote:Well, the dummy spit continues.

India is pulling out and going home.

they took so long to decide.. such a money minded body bcci .. they just couldnt afford to do it coz of the huge money involved in it.. i guess ...Had Kumble been a ranatunga he would've asked his mates to walk out, long time back.

...I still remember 2005 Ashes in England: Ponting got out which involved a substitute fielder....he was shown furious when he entered back in the pavilion....and then he was questioning if England (especially the coach) were playing with sportsmanship by calling too many substitutes to give rest to other players...

St.Lucifer wrote:

^ian^ wrote:Well, the dummy spit continues.

India is pulling out and going home.

they took so long to decide.. such a money minded body bcci .. they just couldnt afford to do it coz of the huge money involved in it.. i guess ...Had Kumble been a ranatunga he would've asked his mates to walk out, long time back.

Shocked that they're pulling out. So things don't go your way one test match with a couple of bad calls, and you pack up and go home?

Such a shame, because if it happened to Australia, you bet your arse we'd front up for the next game, and we'd be extra fired up to win it too. Doesn't India have a fighting spirit?

It seems pretty cowardly.

iceman wrote:...I still remember 2005 Ashes in England: Ponting got out which involved a substitute fielder....he was shown furious when he entered back in the pavilion....and then he was questioning if England (especially the coach) were playing with sportsmanship by calling too many substitutes to give rest to other players...

Yes, but did Australia pull out? No.

It's right to question the opposition... it's right to challenge.

But to pack a sad and go home? That's not challenging at all.

^ian^ wrote:

iceman wrote:...I still remember 2005 Ashes in England: Ponting got out which involved a substitute fielder....he was shown furious when he entered back in the pavilion....and then he was questioning if England (especially the coach) were playing with sportsmanship by calling too many substitutes to give rest to other players...

Yes, but did Australia pull out? No.

It's right to question the opposition... it's right to challenge.

But to pack a sad and go home? That's not challenging at all.

hmm Y would Australia pull out? when they are getting every help they want from the umpires?

Considering the new state of Cricket in Aus

this is what a lot of people have to say

Some new rules are about to be incorporated to the ICC book of rules for the ease of clarification after every series in Aus esp if it involves a sub continent team

(1) Ricky Ponting - (THE TRULY GENUINE CRICKETER OF THE CRICKET ERA AND WHOSE INTEGRITY SHOULD NOT BE DOUBTED) should be considered as the FOURTH UMPIRE. As per the new rules, FOURTH UMPIRE decision is final and will over ride any decisions taken by any other umpires. ON-FIELD umpires can seek the assistance of RICKY PONTING even if he is not on the field. This rule is to be made, so that every team should understand the importance of the FOURTH UMPIRE.

(2) While AUSTRALIAN TEAM is bowling, If the ball flies anywhere close to the AUSTRALIAN FIELDER(WITHIN 5 metre distance), the batsman is
to be considered OUT irrelevant of whether the catch was taken cleanly or grassed. Any decision for further clarification should be seeked from the FOURTH UMPIRE. This is made to ensure that the cricket is played with SPORTIVE SPIRIT by all the teams.

(3) While BATTING, AUSTRALIAN players will wait for the ON-FIELD UMPIRE decisions only (even if the catch goes to the FIFTH SLIP as the ball might not have touched the bat). Each AUSTRALIAN batsman has to be out FOUR TIMES (minimum) before he can return to the pavilion. In case of THE CRICKETER WITH INTEGRITY, this can be higher.

(4) UMPIRES should consider a huge bonus if an AUSTRALIAN player scores a century. Any wrong decisions can be ignored as they will be paid huge bonus and will receive the backing of the AUSTRALIAN team and board.

(5) All AUSTRALIAN players are eligible to keep commenting about all players on the field and the OPPONENT TEAM should never comment as they will be spoiling the spirit of the AUSTRALIAN team. Any comments made in any other language are to be considered as RACIALISM only.

(6) MATCH REFREE decisions will be taken purely on the AUSTRALIAN TEAM advices only. Player views from the other teams decisions will not be considered for hearing. MATCH REFREES are to be given huge bonus if this rule is implemented.

(7) NO VISITING TEAM should plan to win in AUSTRALIA. This is to ensure that the sportive spirit of CRICKET is maintained.

(8) THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE: If any bowler gets RICKY PONTING - "THE UNDISPUTED CRICKETER WITH INTEGTIRY IN THE GAME OF CRICKET" more than twice in a series, he will be banned for the REST OF THE SERIES. This is to ensure that the best batsman/Captain will be played to break records and create history in the game of CRICKET.

Simple rules of Cricket in Auzzie

As I said... Sour Grapes.

^ian^ wrote:As I said... Sour Grapes.

I admit that.. but thats applicable to all.. asking for a ban just coz a batsman keeps getting out to the same bowler?

St.Lucifer wrote:

^ian^ wrote:As I said... Sour Grapes.

I admit that.. but thats applicable to all.. asking for a ban just coz a batsman keeps getting out to the same bowler?

Er.. the complaint was over a racial slur. It's not OK to racially insult someone... ever.

^ian^ wrote:

St.Lucifer wrote:

^ian^ wrote:As I said... Sour Grapes.

I admit that.. but thats applicable to all.. asking for a ban just coz a batsman keeps getting out to the same bowler?

Er.. the complaint was over a racial slur. It's not OK to racially insult someone... ever.

Which never had any proof.. other than 2 c(hyden, clark ) claiming to 've heard it and 5 (2umpires and 2 aussie players and an indian batsman ) saying they didnt hear anything and the accused saying he's never said anything of that sort. And the rest of the team supporting him.


Please refer to the rule no 5.

St.Lucifer wrote:

^ian^ wrote:

St.Lucifer wrote:

^ian^ wrote:As I said... Sour Grapes.

I admit that.. but thats applicable to all.. asking for a ban just coz a batsman keeps getting out to the same bowler?

Er.. the complaint was over a racial slur. It's not OK to racially insult someone... ever.

Which never had any proof.. other than 2 c(hyden, clark ) claiming to 've heard it and 5 (2umpires and 2 aussie players and an indian batsman ) saying they didnt hear anything and the accused saying he's never said anything of that sort. And the rest of the team supporting him.


Please refer to the rule no 5.

You think Symonds should have just punched him in the face.

Perhaps next time he should. I would have.

hahaha !

Thats the silliest of stuff iv'e heard.. May b the likes of Tendulkar, Ganguly, Dravid should've punched every OZ bolwer (Mc Grath, Worney, Gillespie, Lee etc) that's slurred ...
There would'nt be anyone left in the batting line up to play cricket if every other team decides to do it against aussies.

^ian^ wrote:You think Symonds should have just punched him in the face.

Perhaps next time he should. I would have.

lucky he didnt do it .. Sardars are crazy guys.. 've seen one sardar cricketer beating an opponent with bat.. and almost going to take another one's head another time.. hmm I'dnt do the same.. though..

St.Lucifer wrote:hahaha !

Thats the silliest of stuff iv'e heard.. May b the likes of Tendulkar, Ganguly, Dravid should've punched every OZ bolwer (Mc Grath, Worney, Gillespie, Lee etc) that's slurred ...
There would'nt be anyone left in the batting line up to play cricket if every other team decides to do it against aussies.

Well, it takes some nuts to criticise someone because of their race when they're 190 cm tall, I'll give him that. Symonds could snap Singh like a twig.

Doesn't change that he said it though, and he deserves to get suspended for it. Unless you think it is appropriate to abuse people because of their skin colour / race?

^ian^ wrote:

St.Lucifer wrote:hahaha !

Thats the silliest of stuff iv'e heard.. May b the likes of Tendulkar, Ganguly, Dravid should've punched every OZ bolwer (Mc Grath, Worney, Gillespie, Lee etc) that's slurred ...
There would'nt be anyone left in the batting line up to play cricket if every other team decides to do it against aussies.

Well, it takes some nuts to criticise someone because of their race when they're 190 cm tall, I'll give him that. Symonds could snap Singh like a twig.

Doesn't change that he said it though, and he deserves to get suspended for it. Unless you think it is appropriate to abuse people because of their skin colour / race?

I wouldnt bet on it..

And with the same tone you accuse.. I dont believe he would've made any racist remark.

^ian^ wrote:

St.Lucifer wrote:hahaha !

Thats the silliest of stuff iv'e heard.. May b the likes of Tendulkar, Ganguly, Dravid should've punched every OZ bolwer (Mc Grath, Worney, Gillespie, Lee etc) that's slurred ...
There would'nt be anyone left in the batting line up to play cricket if every other team decides to do it against aussies.

Well, it takes some nuts to criticise someone because of their race when they're 190 cm tall, I'll give him that. Symonds could snap Singh like a twig.

Doesn't change that he said it though, and he deserves to get suspended for it. Unless you think it is appropriate to abuse people because of their skin colour / race?

I think its not appropriate to abuse people at any cost. May it be good bolwing, getting hit on the helmet from a good bouncer balled at you, going for runs in an over, etc etc.. anything..

^ian^ wrote:You think Symonds should have just punched him in the face.

Perhaps next time he should. I would have.

Yes!

Although it is polite to give him a chance to appologise first.

If he had a problem with it he should have confronted Sing there and then instead instead of running off and complaining to the umpires and who ever else would listen.
Sing would probably have backed off and been a lot more respectful of Symonds as a result.

He now just thinks Symonds is a complaining coward and has all the more reason to call him names.

benwj wrote:

^ian^ wrote:You think Symonds should have just punched him in the face.

Perhaps next time he should. I would have.

Yes!

Although it is polite to give him a chance to appologise first.

If he had a problem with it he should have confronted Sing there and then instead instead of running off and complaining to the umpires and who ever else would listen.
Sing would probably have backed off and been a lot more respectful of Symonds as a result.

He now just thinks Symonds is a complaining coward and has all the more reason to call him names.

The problem of course is the umpires asked both captains at the beginning of the game to report any and all racist remarks like they did with the previous test.

Again, can't help but comply with the umpires request.

Anyway, it just seems India are incapable of accepting responsibility. There's a great write up about it in 7 days today... worth the read (for a change).