scot1870 wrote:rudeboy wrote:Hi guys the word Islamic fundamentalist is being used alot in the media. Especially in CNN and other news channel.
heres the meaning of fundamentalism on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalism According to Webster’s dictionary ‘fundamentalism’ was a movement in American Protestanism that arose in the earlier part of the 20th century. It was a reaction to modernism, and stressed the infallibility of the Bible, not only in matters of faith and morals but also as a literal historical record. It stressed on belief in the Bible as the literal word of God. Thus fundamentalism was a word initially used for a group of Christians who believed that the Bible was the verbatim word of God without any errors and mistakes.
According to the Oxford dictionary ‘fundamentalism’ means ‘strict maintenance of ancient or fundamental doctrines of any religion, especially Islam’. Notice the word especially ISLAM???? so does that mean when someone hears the word Islam and fundamentalism together, that person is a Terroist? does that mean every Muslim is a terroist??
so ok now we know that a fundamentalist is a person who follows and adheres to the fundamentals of the doctrine or theory he is following. For a person to be a good doctor, he should know, follow, and practise the fundamentals of medicine. In other words, he should be a fundamentalist in the field of medicine. For a person to be a good mathematician, he should know, follow and practise the fundamentals of mathematics. He should be a fundamentalist in the field of mathematics. For a person to be a good scientist, he should know, follow and practise the fundamentals of science. He should be a fundamentalist in the field of science.
so to be a good muslim you should pray 5 times a day, give charity perform hajj and believe in one god and Mohammed (pbuh) is his last messenger. So if i do all I become a islamic fundamentalist? does that mean that ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERROISTS?????
Science, mathematics and, to a certain extent medicine, can be proved, religion can't! You need to make a clear distinction. Fundamentalism goes way beyound what you have described.
All Muslims aren't terrorists, but those who believe the literal word of the Qu'ran seem to believe that anyone who isn't Muslim is against them and indeed, from my reading on here, can be killed and are therefore these people are deemed dangerous by the MAJORITY of the world who isn't Muslim.
Christians and other religions have nutters too, there seems to be a particular breed of it that is growing within Islam that is worrying the world just now.
I hve give you the link and it shows you the meaning of the word fundamentalism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamentalism
As you can see in the link the word Fundamentalism was a word INITIALLY used for a group of christians who believe that the Bible was the verbatim word of God without ANY ERRORS and mistakes. U only see the word Islam mentioned later on.
Scot you are right to a certain context that who ever is not muslim can be killed and many muslims say this. But this is only because they havent read Quran or its translation properly or they have been misquoted. I ll show you.
In the Quran it says
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Kill the Mushrikoon (polytheists) where ever you find them , The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 9, Verse 5 "
if you read this on its on it shows that Qur'an Commands the killing of Disbelievers i.e non muslims.
This is WRONG, you are reading one line but If you read the chapter(Surah At-Taubah) from the beginning the first verse talks about the treaty between the Muslims and the Mushriks (Pagans) of Mecca i.e non muslims.
"Freedom from obligation (is proclaimed) from Allah and His messenger toward those of the idolaters with whom ye made a treaty ", The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 9, Verse 1
In the next verse The Meccans are given four months time to set things right otherwise a declaration of War and coming to verse [9:5], the complete verse is
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But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is oft-forgiving, Most merciful." The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 9, Verse 5
Hence if you read this in context we know that this statement was made in the battle field. People usually miss out this and think its ok to go Kill people. Infact in the battle the Qur'an Commands that a person who seeks asylum should be escorted to a place of security.
"If one amongst the pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure that is because they are men without knowledge." The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 9, Verse 6
The Qur'an explicitly forbids killing
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Whosoever kills a human being for other than Murder or Creating Mischief in the Land, it is as if he had killed the whole of Human Kind and whoso saved the life of one as if he has saved the life of all Mankind The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 5, Verse 12
Islam is a religion that promotes Pease and always will. If it didnt i dont think it would be spread through out the world.
Another thing the word Jihad. In the west it is being mistranslated as "holy war" this phrase was used first in the Crusades. And it is still being used in the Western Media and it means to strive and endeavour allahs cause. Jihad can be expressed in a purely PEACEFUL way. Mohammad (PBUH) said that " the best jihad is by one who strives against (the evil of) his own self for allah, the mighty and majestic".
Also in the Quran it says
"so obey not the disbelievers, but make a great jihad against them by preaching with this Quran". Chapter 25, verse 52.
Sometimes it becomes necessary to PHYSICALLY fight evil, the so-called "jihad of the sword". The Prophet and his followers like many Israelite Prophets, and Jesus fought wars in Self defence and in order to abolish idolatry, tyranny and oppersion. and in the Quran it says that you should fight when oppressed.
" And what is wrong with you that you do not fight in the cause of Allah and for those weak, ill-treated and oppressed among men, women and children whose only cry is: ‘Our Lord! Rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors and raise for us from You one who will protect and raise for us from You who will help! (The Holy Qur’an, Chapter 4, Verse 75)
Scott Islam’s non-Muslim enemies likewise selectively quote or misquote the Revelation to suggest that Islam encourages the wanton persecution and slaughter of infidels. However, an honest, holistic study of Qur’an and Sunna reveals that those passages dealing with warfare are explicit calling for equity and justice; always taking the side of the oppressed – believer or disbeliever- against the oppressor, advising leniency and halting of war in favour of peace.
Scot Islam means peace. Do you see any of us riding a horse with swords in one hand and in the other hand the Quran?
I have made a clear distinction by showing you the meaning of fundamentalism. I believe in EVERY word of the Quran so does that mean i am a fundamentalism a terroist?? It is a shame that the Quran is misquoted and that is why the Muslims are suffering world wide.
Scott do you know that it says in the Book of Numbers (Bible) that whoever worships other than God should be killed yet the Western Media doesnt use such militant verses??