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help Aug 05, 2007
hi all,

i am on a visit visa and i have got a job at a company here. the company is indian and this is my status.

1. company has sponsored me on a visit visa
2. company has my graduation certificate
3. company has passport
4. Offer letter signed by me.

My company has not yet started applying for my permanent visa as they will take some time.

I would like to leave this company as i am getting another job. my current visit visa is valid till 12th of july 2007 but will be extended by my parent company. I am on a visit visa and i would like to know the consequences in my case

1. Can i switch the job when on visit visa
2. How to get back my passport & graduation certificate in this case
3. will the company charge me for visit visa if i dont work with them

Please note that it has been just 15 days that i joined the company. i plan to leave due to office timing reasons the timings to come home are really hectic and i reach home at 9 PM instead of 7 or 8.

Only every alternative saturday we have leave. The timings are hectic and have screwed my personal life.

I need some advice.
Please help if you can.

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Aug 05, 2007
not a smart idea to put your name and number on here - your company not to mention who else could read it!
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Re: help Aug 06, 2007
tsftsf wrote:hi all,

i am on a visit visa and i have got a job at a company here. the company is indian and this is my status.

1. company has sponsored me on a visit visa
2. company has my graduation certificate
3. company has passport
4. Offer letter signed by me.

My company has not yet started applying for my permanent visa as they will take some time.

I would like to leave this company as i am getting another job. my current visit visa is valid till 12th of july 2007 but will be extended by my parent company. I am on a visit visa and i would like to know the consequences in my case

1. Can i switch the job when on visit visa - You are not legally allowed to work on a visit visa!!! So yes there is no law against you changing your job!!!
2. How to get back my passport & graduation certificate in this case - Ask them to return the same. If they refuse you can always go to the police as it is illegal for them to retain the same. If you are planning on resigning do not sign any labour contract letter or any other document.
3. will the company charge me for visit visa if i dont work with them - They might charge you

Please note that it has been just 15 days that i joined the company. i plan to leave due to office timing reasons the timings to come home are really hectic and i reach home at 9 PM instead of 7 or 8. - Thats upto you as your organisation should have really done the procedures by now.

Only every alternative saturday we have leave. The timings are hectic and have screwed my personal life.

I need some advice.
Please help if you can.

Regards,
T******************
Mobile 050-*********

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Re: help Aug 06, 2007
tsftsf wrote:i am on a visit visa and i have got a job at a company here. ... I would like to leave this company as i am getting another job.

I've seen so many cases like this... so typical... very unprofessional.
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xty wrote:
tsftsf wrote:i am on a visit visa and i have got a job at a company here. ... I would like to leave this company as i am getting another job.

I've seen so many cases like this... so typical... very unprofessional.


Who would you say is being "unprofessional"?
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Re: help Aug 07, 2007
sage & onion wrote:Who would you say is being "unprofessional"?

These people who just come to Dubai and got job already. But before the employer finished applying the residence visa, they just easily shift to other company just because the other offers better package.

I know it's legal. I know it's their rights.
But if you put yourself as the first employer, imagine that you have spent months to search for candidates, spend a fortune to do the paperworks (visit/employment visa) and flight tickets, etc etc. Then suddenly right after coming, the candidates just move to the others.

Imagine that you have spent years with your boyfriend/girlfriend, got engaged. And on the D-day of marriage, he/she didn't come just because "the other" is better. How do you feel? ;)

I'm talking about professionalism and commitment.
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Aug 07, 2007
hey.. its a free market right??? Everyone is entitled to look for a bigger and better opportunity.. If tomorrow the management decided to sell out or merge with another company, which resulted in employees losing their jobs etc., would you say the management was unprofessional or uncommitted??? That's the reality of today's job market. As long as your skills are transferable and in demand, nothing stops you from moving for a bigger and better opportunity.

Commitment should be towards your work and not necessarily towards your employer.
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Re: help Aug 07, 2007
xty wrote:I know it's legal. I know it's their rights.
But if you put yourself as the first employer, imagine that you have spent months to search for candidates, spend a fortune to do the paperworks (visit/employment visa) and flight tickets, etc etc. Then suddenly right after coming, the candidates just move to the others.


So get your ass moving and get the paperwork done when they hit the deck as soon as possible.

I know many companies delay the visa process while they assess the candidate... they've only got themselves to blame if the new employ moves in this timeframe.
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^ian^ wrote:
xty wrote:I know it's legal. I know it's their rights.
But if you put yourself as the first employer, imagine that you have spent months to search for candidates, spend a fortune to do the paperworks (visit/employment visa) and flight tickets, etc etc. Then suddenly right after coming, the candidates just move to the others.


So get your a#s moving and get the paperwork done when they hit the deck as soon as possible.

I know many companies delay the visa process while they assess the candidate... they've only got themselves to blame if the new employ moves in this timeframe.


Yes it happens, its the probation period not mentioned:) if u dont like the candidate, out he goes. visa takes arournd three weeks to process, so if some company is genuinely interested in hiring the candidate they will process his visa and atleast get the amendment stamped.
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xty wrote:
sage & onion wrote:Who would you say is being "unprofessional"?

These people who just come to Dubai and got job already. But before the employer finished applying the residence visa, they just easily shift to other company just because the other offers better package.

I know it's legal. I know it's their rights.
But if you put yourself as the first employer, imagine that you have spent months to search for candidates, spend a fortune to do the paperworks (visit/employment visa) and flight tickets, etc etc. Then suddenly right after coming, the candidates just move to the others.

Imagine that you have spent years with your boyfriend/girlfriend, got engaged. And on the D-day of marriage, he/she didn't come just because "the other" is better. How do you feel? ;)

I'm talking about professionalism and commitment.


Respect xty, I'm in total agreement with you.
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syiem wrote:hey.. its a free market right??? Everyone is entitled to look for a bigger and better opportunity.. If tomorrow the management decided to sell out or merge with another company, which resulted in employees losing their jobs etc., would you say the management was unprofessional or uncommitted??? That's the reality of today's job market. As long as your skills are transferable and in demand, nothing stops you from moving for a bigger and better opportunity.

Commitment should be towards your work and not necessarily towards your employer.

I agree it's a free market... but only 15 days? Give it a break!
Becoming professional must be started from yourself, don't look the others.
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Re: help Aug 07, 2007
Jeevan wrote:Yes it happens, its the probation period not mentioned:) if u dont like the candidate, out he goes. visa takes arournd three weeks to process, so if some company is genuinely interested in hiring the candidate they will process his visa and atleast get the amendment stamped.

If the company is professional enough or there's an urgent requirement, it takes only less than a week. I know because I recruited myself my team and their visas got processed within 4-5 working days (medical+DIC+immigration) because I needed them to be assigned immediately to some projects out of the country.
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