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St.Lucifer · Apr 16, 2007

Chocoholic wrote:Smart, see what you're saying, however the isues in Iraq are happening on a daily basis now, it's nothing new and there seems to be no end in sight, people become immune to it when they heard about it every single day, it becomes normal life and common place.

However this is the first time anything like this has happened in the UAE. This country was always seen as a place that was very safe, with little crime, but things seem to be going from bad to worse, but that's what happens when you open up your doors to people from around the world. Unless you want to run background checks on everyone coming into your country or psych tests on your locals, then you have to expect some undesirables to get through.

Glad to see ya back in action.

Smart · Apr 16, 2007

KeithL wrote:
Smart wrote:
gtmash wrote:
Smart wrote:I would invite Italian and Russian maphia.

you should change you're nick dude...

I would hardly classify you as Smart if you cant spell Mafia

Keithl, English is not my native language, not even the second foreign language which I learnt. So, I can afford myself mistakes from time to time, especially at the end of the working day

But thanks for the hint thought, now I definitely will not make this mistake again

P.S. BTW, I am not dude :thumbleft:

Smart · Apr 16, 2007

[quote="kay1730"]I think the guys who done the robbery deffo got their ideas from a movie

i dont understand what the big deal is, armed robberies happen all the time all over the world. It was going to happen in Dubai sooner or later and its happend sooner.
quote]

Agree.

Why does not anyone raise an issue of human traffic in Dubai? Do you know that there are several thousand girls who are forced to work as prostitutes in the city? Do you know how many are killed refusing to work in this field? Is not people life worth less attention then one robbed store?

KageofSoul · Apr 16, 2007

Smart wrote:
kay1730 wrote:I think the guys who done the robbery deffo got their ideas from a movie i dont understand what the big deal is, armed robberies happen all the time all over the world. It was going to happen in Dubai sooner or later and its happend sooner.
quote]

Agree.

Why does not anyone raise an issue of human traffic in Dubai? Do you know that there are several thousand girls who are forced to work as prostitutes in the city? Do you know how many are killed refusing to work in this field? Is not people life worth less attention then one robbed store?

Oh please, spare me. This has been going on since forever. This country was well known for it back in the days. The image has changed now, but what happens behind closed curtains hasn't.

You won't get anywhere trying to stop it, the people are too high up. And as you said...
Do you know how many are killed refusing to work in this field?

KeithL · Apr 16, 2007

Smart wrote:P.S. BTW, I am not dude

Dudette !

Dubai Knight · Apr 16, 2007

There was an instance last year of an armed robbery at a currency exchange house in Al Ghurair City. The robber was chased down by unarmed security guards and was finally cornered in Maktoum Street before turning the gun on himself and committing suicide. He had a history of mental illness, however this was a well planned and thought out raid by an organised gang. The UAE has a historically very low crime rate but this will now cause many outlets to tighten security and I am sure it will have a knock on effect on the regular mall users.

We may find the entrances to all the malls now being barriered or even having metal detectors and armed security guards. This is not going to help the Dubai tourist industry.

Spare a thought for the traumatised shop staff. Did anyone ever train them how to handle having a machine gun stuck in their face? I think not.

Knight

arniegang · Apr 16, 2007

maybe they should have used quick fire barbque pork ribs, more deadly than any traditional weapon, and......... they are totally undectable in any scanner, unless they are a few days old and the security dogs get a wiff of them

Purple Complex · Apr 16, 2007

St.Lucifer wrote:
I dont get it. Robbers would definitely know what they r doin. All those movies that i've watched. and this video confirms it. I dont think they would come without proper planning, training and a panache for precise execution.

Why would "robbers" know what they were doing. When people get desperate, they do desperate things and don't always weigh up the consequences or how they could get caught.

Not funny - but yes we are all joking about today evening being boring.

AFG, I read your post and was struck to hear how traumatic the event truly was. Events like this show us why we should be prepared for the unexpected. The matter at hand now is to take steps on avoiding such unfortunate happenings in the future.

Dubai Knight · Apr 16, 2007

arniegang wrote:maybe they should have used quick fire barbque pork ribs, more deadly than any traditional weapon, and......... they are totally undectable in any scanner, unless they are a few days old and the security dogs get a wiff of them

Nothing worse than a cold nose in the unmentionables!

Concord would know...

:lol:

Knight

jabbajabba · Apr 16, 2007

Anyone got a username and password for that link?

EDIT:

Its on the tube now;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DQUumAaKAzU& ... ed&search=

Really I am not surprised this has happened - jewelry stores in Dubai have displays with no bars and leave the stock out on show all night. If you do this no matter where it is in the world and the goods are worth over 1 million then someone will try there luck.

Most other city's remove window displays to a pretty hardened safe for overnight storage, as they have also learned the hard way.

Reminds me of the old saying 'trust in allah, but tie up your camel'.

Dubai Knight · Apr 16, 2007

jabbajabba wrote:Anyone got a username and password for the link?

You can log in and create a new one for yourself. Its free and easy.

Knight

mighty.one · Apr 16, 2007

I can't believe this.
How was this put on video?
It looks like its been done on a camera phone

Concord · Apr 17, 2007

long f*****g day and I see this. Actually tomorrow already.

Here are my 2 fils.

They will have to catch the bastards and make an "example" of them. Think about it: there is a lot more to be lost if the perception becomes that Dubai is not safe and/or an easy target. I just hope they catch the right bastards and hang them. Sometimes the wrong ways are sacrifized.

I imagine for many one reason to be in Dubai is because it is safer compared to many other places (I happen to live in one of the safest larger cities in the world - when not in Dubai). If crime is now an element to be concerned about, there would be less reasons to be here (add to that the high cost of living, traffic, etc.). Big "mo" is a smart man and I figure it "crossed" his mind or that of his advisors.

I'll pay to watch the execution (with Arnies' money). Arnie and DK good to hear from you. Long time no see.

St.Lucifer · Apr 17, 2007

Its recommended that they get exemplary punishment. But What dubai must do is to look into,
The ever widening economic divide, the frustration of lower income group increases over the time if no measures are taken up. Include them into the main stream society, set new rules to ensure living conditions and pay rates. Create more opportunities for them to come up.

The life style changes and the upbringing of youngsters. They've to look at the young bullies, and the young street rowdy gangs. Like a UAE minister said, there should be more ways for the youth to spend time on constructive, and scocial activities. Like sports centres, stadiums etc. Coz these young rich kids have a lot of time to spend at their hand, a lot of money, all kinda gadgets and no one to monitor them. Regardless of what they do or how much of a direct impact they would create to the actual crime scene, the issue is important coz a lot would wanna followsuit them with rich spoilt, carefree life style.

Chocoholic · Apr 17, 2007

This was a very well thought out and planned robbery. I'm just surprised it hasn't happened here sooner.

Reports today suggest that police have arrested 5 people in connection with the incident.

Dubai Knight · Apr 17, 2007

St.Lucifer wrote:Its recommended that they get exemplary punishment. But What dubai must do is to look into,
The ever widening economic divide, the frustration of lower income group increases over the time if no measures are taken up. Include them into the main stream society, set new rules to ensure living conditions and pay rates. Create more opportunities for them to come up.

The life style changes and the upbringing of youngsters. They've to look at the young bullies, and the young street rowdy gangs. Like a UAE minister said, there should be more ways for the youth to spend time on constructive, and scocial activities. Like sports centres, stadiums etc. Coz these young rich kids have a lot of time to spend at their hand, a lot of money, all kinda gadgets and no one to monitor them. Regardless of what they do or how much of a direct impact they would create to the actual crime scene, the issue is important coz a lot would wanna followsuit these rich spoilt, carefree life style.

Are you making the assumption that these are local criminals? I have a feeling that these were more likely professionals from out of town. Yes there is an increasing lifestyle and financial divide in the UAE, but the marketing that is done outside the country about Dubai being 'The City of Gold' is guaranteed to raise it on the radar of organised crime.

If they catch the perpetrators (and not just some scapegoats to make the local police look better) they may find they are from one of the 'Stans'.

We shall see...

:shock:

Knight

Chocoholic · Apr 17, 2007

I'd have to agree with you DK, too well done and far too professional.

St.Lucifer · Apr 17, 2007

Agreed that this may be a crime that's out sourced. Out of towners, But it should be a wake up call. And if anything on the past records are to be considered, dubai has a very big network of organized underworld perpetrators. What comes on front page like this one could just be a tip of ice berg.I do realize that this is a different kind of crime.

And lets hope that cops get them asap.

Smart · Apr 17, 2007

According to the information, it took guys only 105 (!!!!!!) seconds to rob the store. The cost of the stolen jewellery is more than 15 (!!!!!) mln $.

jabbajabba · Apr 17, 2007

Dubai Knight wrote:If they catch the perpetrators (and not just some scapegoats to make the local police look better) they may find they are from one of the 'Stans'.

I am going for eastern European or Russian - that was a well planned and executed heist by experienced criminals.

jabbajabba · Apr 17, 2007

Dubai Knight wrote:If they catch the perpetrators (and not just some scapegoats to make the local police look better) they may find they are from one of the 'Stans'.

I am going for eastern European or Russian - that was a well planned and executed heist by experienced criminals.

Will they lose a hand if caught?

asc_26 · Apr 17, 2007

Sort of Italian Job - the movie though!

Stolen diamonds will travel by ship or by a private jet. For sure, those diamonds are no longer in UAE! They should catch those mafias, otherwise Concord’s K9 will be in all malls & high-end establishments entrances & exits sniffing our bags & belongings. I don’t want to see these things happening in Dubai business establishments. :shock:

jabbajabba wrote:
Dubai Knight wrote:If they catch the perpetrators (and not just some scapegoats to make the local police look better) they may find they are from one of the 'Stans'.

I am going for eastern European or Russian - that was a well planned and executed heist by experienced criminals.

Will they lose a hand if caught?

It could be eastern europeans supported by the stans & arabs. Let's see...

gtmash · Apr 17, 2007

Dubai Knight wrote:If they catch the perpetrators (and not just some scapegoats to make the local police look better)...

Knight

Hehe, tomorrow's headline will be " Labourers arrested in heist case"

Purple Complex · Apr 17, 2007

gtmash wrote:Hehe, tomorrow's headline will be " Labourers arrested in heist case"

Now that wouldn't be funny.

harrysat · Apr 17, 2007

the city is getting biger it needs more security. police man should have moterbikes to kill the traffic---------------------------------

smartd · Apr 17, 2007

They set fire to both cars but one of them didn't burn completely. Fingerprints + DNA was recovered from water bottles.

They caught 1 of them already.

Or maybe not.

Cheers,

D

Purple Complex · Apr 17, 2007

smartd wrote:They set fire to both cars but one of them didn't burn completely. Fingerprints + DNA was recovered from water bottles.

They caught 1 of them already.

Or maybe not.

Cheers,

D

I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they did do all that, although it could be just a story to avoid copycats (which is a good thing), but regardless to say they did catch one. Where is he from? In-towner? out-of-towner? The talk of Eastern Europeans and Russians has piqued my interest.

satan-the-redeema · Apr 17, 2007

Knight[/quote]

Hehe, tomorrow's headline will be " Labourers arrested in heist case"[/quote]
Could this be because the locals are to dumb and are envois of how clever the labours were good luck to them and welcome to the real world you ragheads :lol:

Purple Complex · Apr 17, 2007

satan-the-redeema wrote:Knight

Hehe, tomorrow's headline will be " Labourers arrested in heist case"[/quote]
Could this be because the locals are to dumb and are envois of how clever the labours were good luck to them and welcome to the real world you ragheads :lol:

[/quote]

And the forum's most decorated intellectual strikes again.

satan-the-redeema · Apr 17, 2007

denial is OK it is a wog thing :clown:

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