A Lord In UK?

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A Lord in UK? Nov 15, 2006
What does it mean when someone has been appointed a Lord in the UK?
What can they do? Any 'special powers'? :)
Influence wise? Immigration wise? Citizenship wize? Getting you out of jail stuff?

LIke here how a Sheikh can pretty much do anything ....what about a Lord there?

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Re: A Lord in UK? Nov 16, 2006
ineedacoolnick wrote:What does it mean when someone has been appointed a Lord in the UK?
What can they do? Any 'special powers'? :)
Influence wise? Immigration wise? Citizenship wize? Getting you out of jail stuff?

LIke here how a Sheikh can pretty much do anything ....what about a Lord there?


Hmmm have never given much thought to it.....maybe the Brits should answer...addl info is always appreciated :wink:
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Re: A Lord in UK? Nov 16, 2006
ineedacoolnick wrote:What does it mean when someone has been appointed a Lord in the UK?
What can they do? Any 'special powers'? :)
Influence wise? Immigration wise? Citizenship wize? Getting you out of jail stuff?

LIke here how a Sheikh can pretty much do anything ....what about a Lord there?

Right, I'm going to try to answer your question as best as I can.
Where do I start??

Well, many years ago in the UK, Lords became members of the upper chamber of Parliament - known as the House of Lords. This upper chamber works like many "upper chambers" of parliaments around the world, such as the Senate in the USA. This chamber is not selected, and until very recently was made up by around 75% of heredatory Lords (or more commonly known as "peers") which means that the title is passed from Father to Son. This is now less the case, and in the most part, Lords are nominated by heads of political parties to sit in the Lords (known as "Life Peers", ie you can't pass it from Father to Son).

The Lords do have some historic additional rights, but they are more to do with historical and traditional rights that don't have any meaning in a modern day society.
Being a Lord won't get you out of jail (or at least it shouldn't!), won't gain you immigration exemptions, and won't get you any additional influence, unless he/she is sitting in the House of Lords.

Anyone should feel free to add to, or adjust what I've put!
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ineedacoolnick wrote:What does it mean when someone has been appointed a Lord in the UK?
What can they do? Any 'special powers'? :)
Influence wise? Immigration wise? Citizenship wize? Getting you out of jail stuff?

LIke here how a Sheikh can pretty much do anything ....what about a Lord there?

Right, I'm going to try to answer your question as best as I can.
Where do I start??

Well, many years ago in the UK, Lords became members of the upper chamber of Parliament - known as the House of Lords. This upper chamber works like many "upper chambers" of parliaments around the world, such as the Senate in the USA. This chamber is not selected, and until very recently was made up by around 75% of heredatory Lords (or more commonly known as "peers") which means that the title is passed from Father to Son. This is now less the case, and in the most part, Lords are nominated by heads of political parties to sit in the Lords (known as "Life Peers", ie you can't pass it from Father to Son).

The Lords do have some historic additional rights, but they are more to do with historical and traditional rights that don't have any meaning in a modern day society.
Being a Lord won't get you out of jail (or at least it shouldn't!), won't gain you immigration exemptions, and won't get you any additional influence, unless he/she is sitting in the House of Lords.

Anyone should feel free to add to, or adjust what I've put!


I think you got it about right m8
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Nov 16, 2006
Tnx for that Lord Zooter :queen:
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zam wrote:Tnx for that Lord Zooter :queen:

One day!!! We live in hope!!
Besides I'd prefer to be a Viscount or an Earl (which are different titles but along the same lines and priveledges as a Lord)
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zam wrote:Tnx for that Lord Zooter :queen:

One day!!! We live in hope!!
Besides I'd prefer to be a Viscount or an Earl (which are different titles but along the same lines and priveledges as a Lord)


Lord Z..

how can you then become an Earl...and are there any lady Lords?
or they are called duchess?
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Nov 16, 2006
isabela wrote:
the_zooter wrote:
zam wrote:Tnx for that Lord Zooter :queen:

One day!!! We live in hope!!
Besides I'd prefer to be a Viscount or an Earl (which are different titles but along the same lines and priveledges as a Lord)


Lord Z..

how can you then become an Earl...and are there any lady Lords?
or they are called duchess?

You just become an Earl (or you are made one) - you don't progress from being a Lord!!
Lady Lords are called "Lady". A more common female title would be "Baroness"
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If the Lady/Baroness earned the title on her own merits, what would that make her husband? Would he be automatically accorded the "Lord"/"Baron"?

Hmm... what comes next in the hierarchy after the King and Prince?
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Guilo2 wrote:If the Lady/Baroness earned the title on her own merits, what would that make her husband? Would he be automatically accorded the "Lord"/"Baron"?

Hmm... what comes next in the hierarchy after the King and Prince?


The 'King' gets fat and dies on a toilet..

The 'Prince' changes his name to 'Symbol' and goes all purple...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: A Lord in UK? Nov 16, 2006
the_zooter wrote:
ineedacoolnick wrote:What does it mean when someone has been appointed a Lord in the UK?
What can they do? Any 'special powers'? :)
Influence wise? Immigration wise? Citizenship wize? Getting you out of jail stuff?

LIke here how a Sheikh can pretty much do anything ....what about a Lord there?

Right, I'm going to try to answer your question as best as I can.
Where do I start??

Well, many years ago in the UK, Lords became members of the upper chamber of Parliament - known as the House of Lords. This upper chamber works like many "upper chambers" of parliaments around the world, such as the Senate in the USA. This chamber is not selected, and until very recently was made up by around 75% of heredatory Lords (or more commonly known as "peers") which means that the title is passed from Father to Son. This is now less the case, and in the most part, Lords are nominated by heads of political parties to sit in the Lords (known as "Life Peers", ie you can't pass it from Father to Son).

The Lords do have some historic additional rights, but they are more to do with historical and traditional rights that don't have any meaning in a modern day society.
Being a Lord won't get you out of jail (or at least it shouldn't!), won't gain you immigration exemptions, and won't get you any additional influence, unless he/she is sitting in the House of Lords.

Anyone should feel free to add to, or adjust what I've put!


It sounds like Lord or Lady is just a prestige title added to your name. :D
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Nov 17, 2006
just stick with "Sheikh" :lol:

Cheers,

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smartd wrote:just stick with "Sheikh" :lol:

Cheers,

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And Sheikha :D
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Guilo2 wrote:If the Lady/Baroness earned the title on her own merits, what would that make her husband? Would he be automatically accorded the "Lord"/"Baron"?

Hmm... what comes next in the hierarchy after the King and Prince?

Ok, basically it goes in order like this (I think):

Royalty:
King (or Queen)
Prince (or Princess)

Peers:
Duke/Duchess
Viscount
Marquis
Earl
Baron (more commonly known as Lord)

Commoners:
Knight/Dame of the Garter (uses the prefix Sir/Dame or Suffix GBE)
Knight/Dame of the Realm (uses the prefix Sir/Dame or suffix KBE)
Commander of the Order of the British Empire (suffix CBE)
Officer of the Order of the British Empire (suffix OBE)
Member of the Order of the British Empire (suffix MBE)


As for wives - wives of a Duke are called a Duchess, with the other peerages being "Lady". I believe that wives of Knights also are accorded the title "Lady". However, husbands of peers do not get accorded with a title (eg a Baronesses husband would not become a Baron/Lord).

Hope that answers more questions!!

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Zooter OBE, has a ring to it :lol:
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the_zooter wrote:Ok, basically it goes in order like this (I think):

Royalty:
King (or Queen)
Prince (or Princess)

Peers:
Duke/Duchess
Viscount
Marquis
Earl
Baron (more commonly known as Lord)

Commoners:
Knight/Dame of the Garter (uses the prefix Sir/Dame or Suffix GBE)
Knight/Dame of the Realm (uses the prefix Sir/Dame or suffix KBE)
Commander of the Order of the British Empire (suffix CBE)
Officer of the Order of the British Empire (suffix OBE)
Member of the Order of the British Empire (suffix MBE)


As for wives - wives of a Duke are called a Duchess, with the other peerages being "Lady". I believe that wives of Knights also are accorded the title "Lady". However, husbands of peers do not get accorded with a title (eg a Baronesses husband would not become a Baron/Lord).

Hope that answers more questions!!

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All my life i've been waiting for my Knight in shining armour... and his just a commoner! :(
and in the end i will be called wife of the suspender...gosh..

Lord Z..Is this a fact?
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Nov 20, 2006
isabela wrote:
the_zooter wrote:
Commoners:
Knight/Dame of the Garter (uses the prefix Sir/Dame or Suffix GBE)


All my life i've been waiting for my Knight in shining armour... and his just a commoner! :(
and in the end i will be called wife of the suspender...gosh..

Lord Z..Is this a fact?

Well, if you were married to a knight, then you'd technically be a "Lady". There aren't many Knights of the Garter though, I think that only 10 to 12 living members at any one time. Other knights are just common ones!!
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Like Dubai Knight? 8)
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asc_26 wrote:Like Dubai Knight? 8)

He's definately common!! :lol:
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