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I just can't understand why for some people everything goes so easy and others have to put a lot of effort before reaching a goal?

Just got news about one my friend. A guy in his early 20ties. No education, the laziest person in the world,all this time I know him I saw him sober only a couple of times. And now he has a good job in one well-known company, travels all over the world and get a salary more than 4000 euro. More than sure he did not do anything to get this job, it just simply came to his hands itself.

Do not think that I envy him. He is not only one example that I saw in my life.

Simply the qustion is: how to be lucky? Or it is something with what you are already born.........

well it all pans out at the end...or evens out somehow...life aint fair and it gives you your fair share of ups and downs...either ways it too short to see where others are and lament...i was chasing the dream for a good 7 years...moving from one company to the other...and yes did get a nice pay jump everytime...but hey there is loyalty and making friends and having good experiences...the key is to live in the now...and not worry about the future....whats the point...do you want to be full of regrets but have saved a lot for a comfy life?...or do you want to have great memories and enough strength to still be active...having said that...dang i could always use the extra cash ....not that i am complaning(we just got a fat bonus- for rising rent increases)...my bachelor of commerce is yet to be utilised(other than the odd fast math calculations)...summary is...dont look at the benchmark of others...as you will never live your life fully otherwise...

constantine wrote:well it all pans out at the end...or evens out somehow...life aint fair and it gives you your fair share of ups and downs...either ways it too short to see where others are and lament...i was chasing the dream for a good 7 years...moving from one company to the other...and yes did get a nice pay jump everytime...but hey there is loyalty and making friends and having good experiences...the key is to live in the now...and not worry about the future....whats the point...do you want to be full of regrets but have saved a lot for a comfy life?...or do you want to have great memories and enough strength to still be active...having said that...dang i could always use the extra cash ....not that i am complaning(we just got a fat bonus- for rising rent increases)...my bachelor of commerce is yet to be utilised(other than the odd fast math calculations)...summary is...dont look at the benchmark of others...as you will never live your life fully otherwise...

very well said mate..

constantine wrote:well it all pans out at the end...or evens out somehow...life aint fair and it gives you your fair share of ups and downs...either ways it too short to see where others are and lament...i was chasing the dream for a good 7 years...moving from one company to the other...and yes did get a nice pay jump everytime...but hey there is loyalty and making friends and having good experiences...the key is to live in the now...and not worry about the future....whats the point...do you want to be full of regrets but have saved a lot for a comfy life?...or do you want to have great memories and enough strength to still be active...having said that...dang i could always use the extra cash ....not that i am complaning(we just got a fat bonus- for rising rent increases)...my bachelor of commerce is yet to be utilised(other than the odd fast math calculations)...summary is...dont look at the benchmark of others...as you will never live your life fully otherwise...

Well, I did not want to stress on money in my message.
OK. Another example. There was a guy in our college, whom everyone called "Lucky one". Whatever he wanted it just simply came to him. I will give you only one sample. There were almost 100 students from the college who went to the US Embassy to get a working visa that is opened for 3 months. Everyone got 3-months-visa except him. "By accident", as consul said, they put him a visa for 2 years.

I want to understand HOW some people are lucky!

why do you care?

bushra21 wrote:why do you care?

Because I think that I am doing something incorrect in my life.

contentment..who seems to u lucky and successful might be in total misery and wishes to be in ur shoes any day.

If you worry about other people’s luck, you will never move forward. We improve our own luck by doing the best we can and gain the reward for it.

yes mema said it .. if you keep looking around you will always think that. Be content, we have an arabic saying that says being content is an infinite treasure.

Just keep working hard for your goals, i dont think life is luck. Its 99% hard work and 1% luck ..

some people always seem to get everything they want...always getting away with bad things and never appreciating anything. they think they are lucky but eventually it does come back to haunt them...karma once again...
like everyone has been saying...hard work pays off and that is what will be valued in the end and will also be worth something to you. Getting by easily with everything is not rewarding whatsoever...the challenges that you are able to conquer is what is....

PS Maaad..."content" not contempt

MaaaD wrote: Be contempt, we have an arabic saying that says being contemp is an infinite treasure.

WOW! Great wisdom that!

Gary Player (world famous ex-golfer) once said: "The more I practise, the luckier I get!"

Luck is not about having a good job or lots of money, look around you... travel to Bangladesh or Somalia and u will find that you r sooo blessed that you r in good health and have fully developed limps, 3 meals a day..

If u are a good person inside u will c that good things will come to u, be patient... but don't focus to much on money.

i believe in luck... it's just that i believe more in myself and my capabilities.

if you tend to look more to what you call 'luck' of others, you won't see how much you're having...

count your blessings dear.

I used to think, and still to do a certain extent, that you have to make your own luck. You have to work hard and put yourself in the right situation at the right time. This applies to money/love/or whatever.

But, now I'm more cyncial than ever. I have tried my best at many things and have been unsuccesful, but wonder how others put 10% of effort into something, and it lands on their lap. So the idea of 99% hard work and 1% luck - I totally disagree with.

Of course, coming from a western country maybe I should count myself lucky against all the starving people in the world. I'm sure all those people work a hell of a lot harder than many of us. But then this goes against the notion of work hard, and you will be rewarded.

Now, if you're content with everything your ambitions are limited, and thus is happy with what you have.

The idea that if you're a nice person and do good things etc, and you will find love blah, blah, blah is such a cliche. Now how many of you know people who are nasty and horrible, yet have a partner(s) that are blindly in love and silly to stay with them? Yet, I bet you also know of a really nice, kind, smart person, yet he/she will only ever be classified as a "friend"?

sometimes people work harder but not smarter and when things dont go well they blame luck. I disagree with that mentality and anyone who blames bad luck for failure is just being defeatist and need something to blame.

MaaaD wrote:sometimes people work harder but not smarter and when things dont go well they blame luck. I disagree with that mentality and anyone who blames bad luck for failure is just being defeatist and need something to blame.

Based on your remarks above, would you say unfortunate people in developing countries are any less hard working, or smart as you or myself?

I'm sure they are smarter and more hard working, but yet they have more to worry about than you or me.

The idea that smarter/hard work = success is an insult to people who live in restricted/limited resources.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Anna your post was initially to highlight how two or more people under the same circumstances, with similar tools available to them, yet the one with the least work/smartness achieves relative greater success than the rest.

Everything in the world is relative. Luck is when under similar circumstances, one prevails above another whilst less effort is applied.

I make my own luck. If I want something, I reach for it. If you sit on your butt all day it's not likely opportunities are gonna come knocking at your door. Your friend must have done something for this company to want hom to work for them? I just feel glad to be here. Cheesy, but true!

Princess Banana Hammock, like I mentioned previously, I used to and still to a certain extent believe you make your own luck. But, I start to wonder, when others under similar circumstances and no smarter (or in some cases dumb as f!*k put in 10% effort and have it fall on their lap.

I think sometimes if you know the right people, luck will come easier, but youl have to work hard to keep it that way and earn your wings after given a GREAT opportunity you didnt neccesarily deserve

This is the most interesting subject and discussion I have seen on DF....

Luck is not a thing of chance like many believe; it is purely a state of mind...

Years ago I moved into a house in London with 2 lads, 1 I had previously lived with. He told the other guy, "Stuart's luck will actually begin to annoy you". Strange, huh? No...Those in life, who work hard, have strong morals and principles and try their hardiest to live life with honour and pride, will generally be provided with a good path...

Luck is solely how you think and perceive what's in front of you - if you believe the glass is half full, and then you will always have a drink... If you're pessimistic, then you will always be staring at someone else with a drink when you're thirsty!

Princess Banana Hammock is a special person with a great heart and a fab mind (plus she knows how to rock!!!), and when she said “If I want something, I reach for it.” That is spot on…. Make your own luck and take charge of your own future…

After all, there is no such thing as a free lunch….!

Well, unless the culinary genius, StuieD is whipping up a storm!!!

Bon Nuit ….!

If
a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
are equal to
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26
then:

hardwork
h + a + r + d + w + o + r + k
8 + 1 + 18 + 4 + 23 + 15 + 18 + 11=98%

knowledge
k + n + o + w + l + e + d + g + e
11 + 14 + 15 + 23 + 12 + 5 + 4 + 7 + 5 =96%

love
l + o + v + e
12 + 15 + 22 + 5 = 54%

luck
l + u + c + k
12 +21 +3 +11 =47 %

then what makes 100%?
is it money? .. No!!
m + o + n + e + y
13 + 15 + 14 + 5 + 25 =72%

leadership? .. No
l + e + a + d + e + r + s + h + i + p
12 + 5 + 1 + 4 + 5 + 18 + 19 + 9 + 16 = 89%

Every problem has a solution only if we have change our attitude.
to get to the top,
to that 100 %
what we really need to go further .... a bit more

ATTITUDE
a + t + t + i + t + u + d + e
1 + 20 + 20 + 9 + 20 + 21 + 4 + 5 = 100%
it is our attitude towards life and work that makes our life 100% !!!!
Attitude is everything, change your attitude .... and you change your life....

onetickin wrote:Based on your remarks above, would you say unfortunate people in developing countries are any less hard working, or smart as you or myself?

I'm sure they are smarter and more hard working, but yet they have more to worry about than you or me.

The idea that smarter/hard work = success is an insult to people who live in restricted/limited resources.

You seem to equate success with financial gain, and thats a flawed criteria. Success doesnt have to be = to being rich.

onetickin wrote:Princess Banana Hammock, like I mentioned previously, I used to and still to a certain extent believe you make your own luck. But, I start to wonder, when others under similar circumstances and no smarter (or in some cases dumb as f!*k put in 10% effort and have it fall on their lap.

this is where you need to stop being so mad at the other people's success but rather focus on getting your own

No, I do not equate success to financial gain. At what point have I stated this? Obviously, there is a lot more to life than just money.

The word success could mean anything. It could mean access to health facilities, food, shelter, love etc. The people in develoing countries are just as smart and work harder, yet their luck has placed them into unfortunate cicumstances whereby they lack the forementioned. So I find it difficult to equate hard/smart work = success (not necessarily financial gain).

I do not believe I have mentioned any financial gain. In fact I refer to examples of starvation, ambition, and love, but not finanical gain.

Personally I don't believe in luck.

I believe in everything happening for a reason though.

Perhaps the fortune of your friend is to serve as inspiration to yourself.

Personally, I'm not sober for more than 2 days a month... I wasn't aware it was a problem.

onetickin wrote:No, I do not equate success to financial gain. At what point have I stated this? Obviously, there is a lot more to life than just money.

The word success could mean anything. It could mean access to health facilities, food, shelter, love etc. The people in develoing countries are just as smart and work harder, yet their luck has placed them into unfortunate cicumstances whereby they lack the forementioned. So I find it difficult to equate hard/smart work = success (not necessarily financial gain).

I do not believe I have mentioned any financial gain. In fact I refer to examples of starvation, ambition, and love, but not finanical gain.

We are lucky that we don't have to be worrying about where our next meal comes from. But, there have been many people who have risen up from adverstiy. A family friend of ours...grew up dirt poor in India, no water, no food, nothing. He is now an incredibly wealthy doctor (cancer specialist) making TONS of money here in the states. He had the drive to get out of his situation and he milked it! Unforuntately governments, families, etc in some countries don't allwats allow these things to happen. In an idealistic world I would like to think that anyone from the lowest of the low can reach the highest of the high and all that would be through nothing but hard work. Some people may get discouraged along the way, thinking they can't make it. But some are stopped by external circumstances out of their control...and some do make it. I don't know if the one who don't can be called "unlucky" but rather "unfortunate."

Maybe a better question would be how does everyone define "luck"?

Luck is that which happens beyond a person's control

Cheers,

D

NoWoRrIeS wrote:If
a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
are equal to
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26
then:

hardwork
h + a + r + d + w + o + r + k
8 + 1 + 18 + 4 + 23 + 15 + 18 + 11=98%

knowledge
k + n + o + w + l + e + d + g + e
11 + 14 + 15 + 23 + 12 + 5 + 4 + 7 + 5 =96%

love
l + o + v + e
12 + 15 + 22 + 5 = 54%

luck
l + u + c + k
12 +21 +3 +11 =47 %

then what makes 100%?
is it money? .. No!!
m + o + n + e + y
13 + 15 + 14 + 5 + 25 =72%

leadership? .. No
l + e + a + d + e + r + s + h + i + p
12 + 5 + 1 + 4 + 5 + 18 + 19 + 9 + 16 = 89%

Every problem has a solution only if we have change our attitude.
to get to the top,
to that 100 %
what we really need to go further .... a bit more

ATTITUDE
a + t + t + i + t + u + d + e
1 + 20 + 20 + 9 + 20 + 21 + 4 + 5 = 100%
it is our attitude towards life and work that makes our life 100% !!!!
Attitude is everything, change your attitude .... and you change your life....

Do you work in a hotel?
Usually managers there like to put these things on a bulletin board

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Anna your post was initially to highlight how two or more people under the same circumstances, with similar tools available to them, yet the one with the least work/smartness achieves relative greater success than the rest.

Everything in the world is relative. Luck is when under similar circumstances, one prevails above another whilst less effort is applied.[/quote]








Essentially, I am just wondering WHY when I want to reach a goal I have to put all my effort into it; whereas others just snapping their fingers and get what they want.

I agree with those who said that sometimes it looks that people so easily get what they want(this is how my schoolmates are thinking about me) but in reality they DO work hard.

It should be something!!!!!!
Maybe an answer is our subconsciousness?