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Reasons for tsunami Mar 27, 2011
Reasons for tsunami

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The tsunami is always due to anger of God since you are killing the living beings present in water for food. The earthquakes are due to killing of living beings that exist on the earth. God in the form of Buddha and Mahavir preached the non-violence and severely opposed the killing of living beings.

God in some other human forms might have followed the practice of non-vegetarian food in order to join with non-vegetarian people so that, certain other higher aspects to be preached might have been taken into consideration. That does not mean that God has encouraged the killing of living beings through non-vegetarian food. He might have kept silent on this issue in order to give importance to other serious issues. God follows the ignorance of the students in order to become friendly with them. To control a running bull, you have to run along with it for some distance before controlling it.

All these are the basic concepts of nivrutti, which are the core of pravrutti. By following the ethics of pravrutti, you will avoid God becoming furious with you. Then, through nivrutti, you can please God. On one hand, you are making God furious by not following the ethics of pravrutti and how can you please God through nivrutti simultaneously?

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Re: Reasons For Tsunami Mar 27, 2011
Did "GOD" tell you this?? Were you talking to the Monkey God or the Head of an Elephant? Did he also say that human life should be sacrificed because fish are dying?? :drunken:

I heard that earthquakes and tsunamis are caused by more than 100 toilets being flushed at the same time. The more toilets flushed over 100, will determine the size. :roll:
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Bora Bora wrote:Did "GOD" tell you this?? Were you talking to the Monkey God or the Head of an Elephant? Did he also say that human life should be sacrificed because fish are dying?? :drunken:

I heard that earthquakes and tsunamis are caused by more than 100 toilets being flushed at the same time. The more toilets flushed over 100, will determine the size. :roll:

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Bora Bora wrote:Did "GOD" tell you this?? Were you talking to the Monkey God or the Head of an Elephant? Did he also say that human life should be sacrificed because fish are dying?? :drunken:

I heard that earthquakes and tsunamis are caused by more than 100 toilets being flushed at the same time. The more toilets flushed over 100, will determine the size. :roll:


You must not kill any living being for the sake of your food.
The killing is the greatest sin
You must not kill any living being for the sake of your food. God has given enough vegetable food that contains all the ingredients present in the non-vegetarian food. After all, the source of ingredients of any flesh is only vegetable kingdom only. Eating the non-vegetarian food is not a sin because same ingredients exist in both vegetarian and non-vegetarian foods. But, you have to kill a living being for the sake of non-vegetarian food. The killing is the greatest sin.
You may argue that you have not killed the living being directly. Such argument cannot stand. Since you are eating the non-vegetarian food, the living being is killed. You are responsible for its killing. Therefore, you are the principle shareholder of the sin. There is nothing wrong if you eat a living being after its natural death. In Hinduism, there is a sect of people called ‘Kapalikas’, who eat the dead living beings. Therefore, they do not acquire sin. The tsunami is always due to anger of God since you are killing the living beings present in water for food. The earthquakes are due to killing of living beings that exist on the earth. God in the form of Buddha and Mahavir preached the non-violence and severely opposed the killing of living beings.

God in some other human forms might have followed the practice of non-vegetarian food in order to join with non-vegetarian people so that, certain other higher aspects to be preached might have been taken into consideration. That does not mean that God has encouraged the killing of living beings through non-vegetarian food. He might have kept silent on this issue in order to give importance to other serious issues. God follows the ignorance of the students in order to become friendly with them. To control a running bull, you have to run along with it for some distance before controlling it.

All these are the basic concepts of nivrutti, which are the core of pravrutti. By following the ethics of pravrutti, you will avoid God becoming furious with you. Then, through nivrutti, you can please God. On one hand, you are making God furious by not following the ethics of pravrutti and how can you please God through nivrutti simultaneously?
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Re: Reasons For Tsunami Mar 27, 2011
dattaswami wrote:
Bora Bora wrote:Did "GOD" tell you this?? Were you talking to the Monkey God or the Head of an Elephant? Did he also say that human life should be sacrificed because fish are dying?? :drunken:

I heard that earthquakes and tsunamis are caused by more than 100 toilets being flushed at the same time. The more toilets flushed over 100, will determine the size. :roll:


You must not kill any living being for the sake of your food.
The killing is the greatest sin
You must not kill any living being for the sake of your food. God has given enough vegetable food that contains all the ingredients present in the non-vegetarian food. After all, the source of ingredients of any flesh is only vegetable kingdom only. Eating the non-vegetarian food is not a sin because same ingredients exist in both vegetarian and non-vegetarian foods. But, you have to kill a living being for the sake of non-vegetarian food. The killing is the greatest sin.
You may argue that you have not killed the living being directly. Such argument cannot stand. Since you are eating the non-vegetarian food, the living being is killed. You are responsible for its killing. Therefore, you are the principle shareholder of the sin. There is nothing wrong if you eat a living being after its natural death. In Hinduism, there is a sect of people called ‘Kapalikas’, who eat the dead living beings. Therefore, they do not acquire sin. The tsunami is always due to anger of God since you are killing the living beings present in water for food. The earthquakes are due to killing of living beings that exist on the earth. God in the form of Buddha and Mahavir preached the non-violence and severely opposed the killing of living beings.

God in some other human forms might have followed the practice of non-vegetarian food in order to join with non-vegetarian people so that, certain other higher aspects to be preached might have been taken into consideration. That does not mean that God has encouraged the killing of living beings through non-vegetarian food. He might have kept silent on this issue in order to give importance to other serious issues. God follows the ignorance of the students in order to become friendly with them. To control a running bull, you have to run along with it for some distance before controlling it.

All these are the basic concepts of nivrutti, which are the core of pravrutti. By following the ethics of pravrutti, you will avoid God becoming furious with you. Then, through nivrutti, you can please God. On one hand, you are making God furious by not following the ethics of pravrutti and how can you please God through nivrutti simultaneously?


Well Bora, you did take him to task, did you honestly expect any other answer?

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Re: Reasons For Tsunami Mar 27, 2011
Hey Swami, you didn't answer my questions!!!!
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Re: Reasons For Tsunami Mar 28, 2011
Bora Bora wrote:Hey Swami, you didn't answer my questions!!!!

The moment you stop killing for eating, natural calamities will stop....
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Re: Reasons For Tsunami Mar 28, 2011
You still didn't answer my question...........not that I really care what you answer.
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Re: Reasons For Tsunami Mar 29, 2011
Bora Bora wrote:You still didn't answer my question...........not that I really care what you answer.


Is this Shafique in disguise?
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Re: Reasons For Tsunami Mar 29, 2011
Bora Bora wrote:Hey Swami, you didn't answer my questions!!!!

The moment you stop killing living beings for eating, your questions will get automatically answered...
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dattaswami wrote:
Bora Bora wrote:Hey Swami, you didn't answer my questions!!!!

The moment you stop killing living beings for eating, your questions will get automatically answered...


What will happen to all the farm animals if we don't eat them?
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dattaswami wrote:
Bora Bora wrote:Hey Swami, you didn't answer my questions!!!!

The moment you stop killing living beings for eating, your questions will get automatically answered...


What will happen to all the farm animals if we don't eat them?


Why are you eating them, do not eat them..

God has given provision for them...

You are growing farm animals for flesh, that is a sin..

Let them die of natural menas...

Do not kill...
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Re: Reasons for tsunami Mar 29, 2011
Why are you eating them, do not eat them..


Dear datta, our creator in quran is indeed Most Kind, Most Merciful to his creation. He gives us the choice to eat or not to eat them as well as benefiting from their produce while we are herding them..

For you, I have these collection of surahs that are so refreshing and full of life..

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YUSUFALI: And We gave you the shade of clouds and sent down to you Manna and quails, saying: "Eat of the good things We have provided for you:" (But they rebelled); to us they did no harm, but they harmed their own souls.

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YUSUFALI: Of the cattle are some for burden and some for meat: eat what Allah hath provided for you, and follow not the footsteps of Satan: for he is to you and avowed enemy.

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YUSUFALI: And cattle He has created for you (men): from them ye derive warmth, and numerous benefits, and of their (meat) ye eat. And ye have a sense of pride and beauty in them as ye drive them home in the evening, and as ye lead them forth to pasture in the morning. And they carry your heavy loads to lands that ye could not (otherwise) reach except with souls distressed: for your Lord is indeed Most Kind, Most Merciful.
And verily in cattle (too) will ye find an instructive sign. From what is within their bodies between excretions and blood, We produce, for your drink, milk, pure and agreeable to those who drink it. And from the fruit of the date-palm and the vine, ye get out wholesome drink and food: behold, in this also is a sign for those who are wise. And thy Lord taught the Bee to build its cells in hills, on trees, and in (men's) habitations; Then to eat of all the produce (of the earth), and find with skill the spacious paths of its Lord: there issues from within their bodies a drink of varying colours, wherein is healing for men: verily in this is a Sign for those who give thought.
It is Allah Who made your habitations homes of rest and quiet for you; and made for you, out of the skins of animals, (tents for) dwellings, which ye find so light (and handy) when ye travel and when ye stop (in your travels); and out of their wool, and their soft fibres (between wool and hair), and their hair, rich stuff and articles of convenience (to serve you) for a time.

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YUSUFALI: The sacrificial camels we have made for you as among the symbols from Allah: in them is (much) good for you: then pronounce the name of Allah over them as they line up (for sacrifice): when they are down on their sides (after slaughter), eat ye thereof, and feed such as (beg not but) live in contentment, and such as beg with due humility: thus have We made animals subject to you, that ye may be grateful. It is not their meat nor their blood, that reaches Allah: it is your piety that reaches Him: He has thus made them subject to you, that ye may glorify Allah for His Guidance to you and proclaim the good news to all who do right.

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YUSUFALI: And in cattle (too) ye have an instructive example: from within their bodies We produce (milk) for you to drink; there are, in them, (besides), numerous (other) benefits for you; and of their (meat) ye eat; An on them, as well as in ships, ye side.

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YUSUFALI: See they not that it is We Who have created for them - among the things which Our hands have fashioned - cattle, which are under their dominion?- And that We have subjected them to their (use)? of them some do carry them and some they eat: And they have (other) profits from them (besides), and they get (milk) to drink. Will they not then be grateful?

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YUSUFALI: It is Allah Who made cattle for you, that ye may use some for riding and some for food; And there are (other) advantages in them for you (besides); that ye may through them attain to any need (there may be) in your hearts; and on them and on ships ye are carried.

And He shows you (always) His Signs: then which of the Signs of Allah will ye deny?
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Re: Reasons For Tsunami Apr 06, 2011
I don't appreciate those who come up with weird claims, saying that natural disastors occured due to God's anger or humans sins. Surely this universe is after all controlled by God, but its so unappropriate to come up with these conclusions. Unless you are GOD himself, then I suggest you (people) should remain quite.

As for Dattaswami, I hear you but I don't necessarily have to agree with you.
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Re: Reasons for tsunami Apr 06, 2011
So does your god ever cause natural disasters?
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Re: Reasons For Tsunami Apr 06, 2011
Untill you clarify whats your religion, then I'll consider answering any of your questions 8)
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Re: Reasons for tsunami Apr 07, 2011
Non Muslim.
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Re: Reasons For Tsunami Apr 08, 2011
Offcourse ur not, u don't deserve it ;)
Now act with maturity, and tell us what's ur religion.
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Re: Reasons for tsunami Apr 08, 2011
Are you unable to address what's in the Koran?

What if I told you I am Buddhist?
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Re: Reasons For Tsunami Apr 08, 2011
symmetric wrote:Offcourse ur not, u don't deserve it ;)
Now act with maturity, and tell us what's ur religion.


Sym, how can you deserve to be a Muslim? It appears to be more of an infliction than something you deserve!
I would never allow something to rule my life the way Islam rules Muslims. I want to feel free to make my own decisions based on what I feel is right and wrong rather than be ruled by a book. If I can live with myself then it's good enough for me.
I don't understand how people can go around doing majorly bad things in the name of religion. I just don't get that. I would ban it all and make people live by their conscience alone. We may all get on better in the World as a result!
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