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One cannot become My dearest disciple unless one hates the worldly bonds

Purity means oneness. Pure gold means the single gold metal without the second metal like copper. When a single bond exists without a second bond, such single bond is called as pure love or devotion and this is the highest stage. In the lower stage, even if several bonds exist, one bond only becomes the top most, before which the other bonds get rejected in case of competition. In the childhood the paternal bond is top most. In youth the bond with beloved or wife is top most. Afterwards the bond with children becomes top most, which continues through out the life. The rejection of other bonds before the top most bond is the meaning of the word “hate” used by Jesus while stating that one cannot become His dearest disciple unless one hates the worldly bonds.

The bond with inert money is only to see the happiness in parents, wife and children (life). The bond with one’s own life happens to be the top most bond from birth to death and before this bond the other bonds may be rejected or this bond may be rejected before the other bonds. It varies from one individual to the other. The bond with God is also like the bond with money. People love God and money for the sake of happiness of self (life), parents, wife and children only. Money and God are only the instruments to achieve happiness for the sake of self, parents, wife and children. If these bonds are absent, the bond with God and money disappears. This is the case of Pravrutti (Obeying justice), which is the general trend of most of the devotees. Only few exceptional cases exist among the devotees for whom God becomes the top most. Such exceptional devotees come under Nivrutti (loving practical service to God without any expectation) and God loves such exceptional devotees only.

The transformation of Pravrutti to Nivrutti is the real spiritual path. Jesus referred to such devotees of Nivrutti only in His statement as said above. Krishna referred to such devotees in Gita (Matchittah matgatapranah….). The divine cinema aims to achieve such Nivrutti only. But people take God as an instrument to achieve protection and happiness of worldly bonds including self. Jesus says in the above statement that His dearest disciple must be prepared to carry on his own cross for the sake of God. This means that one has to sacrifice even the bond with life for the sake of God. In fact, Jesus sacrificed the bond with His life for the sake of God’s mission through crucifixion.

Hanuman ( top level devotee of God) tore His chest and heart to show God in His heart and this also shows the sacrifice of bond with life for the sake of God. Krishna also sacrificed the bond with His life and the bonds with His children, wife and relatives for the sake of God’s mission. To establish justice and devotion on this earth, which is the primary aim of God’s mission, Krishna supported Pandavas by all means and for this sake, He received the curse from Gandhari due to which all His family and even His own life has to be sacrificed. Such practical sacrifice with all worldly bonds including life for the sake of God’s mission alone could prove that God is the top most. Thus, Himself practiced what ever preached by Krishna. Practical sacrifice alone can bring the real fruit and the theoretical knowledge and theoretical devotion should lead to the practical sacrifice. Theory is essential for the appearance of practice. Theory is like the seed and the subsequent practice resulting from it is like the tree. The tree alone can give the fruit. The knowledge and devotion are like water and fertilizer, which are essential for the seed to grow into the tree. Therefore, knowledge and devotion are important but without practice (Service), which is the work, there is no fruit.

dattaswami wrote:One cannot become My dearest disciple unless one hates the worldly bonds

But one CAN become a spammer by plastering his shyte all over the forum

desertdudeshj wrote:

dattaswami wrote:One cannot become My dearest disciple unless one hates the worldly bonds

But one CAN become a spammer by plastering his shyte all over the forum

Unless you have only one bond with God you are not liberated.

I'll take your liberation and raise you a "how bout you stop spamming the forum"

desertdudeshj wrote:I'll take your liberation and raise you a "how bout you stop spamming the forum"

It is for the good of all God in human form preaches. Some listens, other do not, still others abuses. The main aim of human incarnation is to preach the divine knowledge so that in the upper world He will not be blamed that He has not taught to them.

Interest in divine knowledge coming in contact with God in human etc are very rare feature. However in-spite of strong opposition from His own foolish children, God in human form try His level best to preach the divine knowledge since HE loves His own children very much!

face palm moment

desertdudeshj wrote:face palm moment

When a nursery school child critisise a PHD Professor, the Professor do not even consider the mocking of the nursery child, he knows that out of ignorance that nursery body behave like this.

Like wise when GOD comes to this world, in human form, with wonderful divine knowledge for preaching and uplifting the human souls His own foolish children, neglect Him and abuse Him this is due to their complete ignorance and ego and jealosy to wards co-human beings.

But GOD still preaches these people also. A patient need a doctor.

And you need to stop spamming

desertdudeshj wrote:And you need to stop spamming

Except the human form of God, no other form can deliver the knowledge and this is the exceptional value of human incarnation. You may say that God can speak even through inert forms or other living beings due to His omnipotence but such exhibition of unimaginable power without real necessity indicates the brainless administration of God. When the human form is naturally available to serve the purpose, there is no meaning to use superpower through other forms for the same purpose.

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa was crossing the river by a boat paying one rupee to the driver. Another saint crossed the same river by walking on water to show his super power. Paramahamsa told him that the cost of his super power is just one rupee! God is not such foolish saint, but God is such wise Paramahamsa!