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Americans in today's world do not deserve security or liberty which they have lost according to Ben Franklin

"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both"

It makes alot of sense. Bush messing with Civil Rights like eavesdropping and using evidence gained by torture and americans not doing anything, why?, because Bush has told them its for the security of the nation against terrorists.

Is the saying fitting in today's America. There is only one answer to American people today. Watch out for the first fully developed Fascism, and defence from other nations or people won't help because fascism is born in your country it has nothing to do with outside.

14 Points of Fascism

1.) Powerful and Continuing Nationalism: Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays


2.)Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights: Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of
prisoners, etc.


3.) Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause: The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4.) Supremacy of the Military: Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized

5.) Rampant Sexism: The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.


6.) Controlled Mass Media: Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.


7.)Obsession with National Security: Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.


8.) Religion and Government are Intertwined: Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.


9.) Corporate Power is Protected: The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10.) Labor Power is Suppressed: Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11.) Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts: Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment: Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations

13.) Rampant Cronyism and Corruption: Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.


14.) Fraudulent Elections: Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.



I hope supporters of Bush realize they have just supported the creation to Mussulani's most powerful idea.


I just saw some news that American government is spying on University professors on what they against the bush administration.

AMEN!

Sorry for the triple posts, how do i delete my own posts

Its Ben Franklin

Very good post!

You did alot of research and came up with some incredible points. That is honestly an excellent post, and I commend you for that.

Security versus Freedom is one of our founding ideals, and the current actions truly threaten those ideals.

Globalisation has truly tested our founding fathers vision, because at first we wanted to focus on being isolated, and living as a free nation with a democracy that would be a great example to the world.

However, since technology has made us live so much closer with eachother and population has expanded so much, isolation is no longer a valid option.

Bringing about a peaceful world I believe is Humanities greatest wish, however, how to go about that is Humanities greatest difference.

Religion, or no religion? Many religions and tolerance? One religion and no choice?

Great post, its these types of discussions that help all of us begin to rationalize a healthy debate on where we should continue on.

Its really up to the people, we are the majority, not the elected governments to make the decisions. Hopefully these forums will enable common people to exchange ideas to pave the way for future political relationships.