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Haaretz editorial: Shalit deal signals return of the will of the people The fact that Benjamin Netanyahu agreed to sign the Shalit swap deal, a contradiction of his stated worldview, indicates that while the hand that signed the deal was indeed the PM's, the strings were pulled by the Israeli public...

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A new twist - some loons are trying to blame Mooslims:

http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/10/it-did ... onspiracy/

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Shafique

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FD the spin never stops with you, does it? BM polluted this thread first in her reply. As for allegations of anti-semitism - You either have a very faulty memory or are just very twisted and bitter. You misquote Karmi and then try to make out I'm anti-semitic for pointing out your misquote, and now ...

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Hey herve - I laughed at the bit about you saying I haven't read the Quran. I'm still waiting for you to confirm why you couldn't quote the Quran correctly in the religion forum. I'm wondering why you're so obsessed with this misinformation? You probably also still think that I am DearJohn, don't yo...

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FD the spin never stops with you, does it? As for allegations of anti-semitism - You either have a very faulty memory or are just very twisted and bitter. You misquote Karmi and then try to make out I'm anti-semitic for pointing out your misquote, and now you think you're being clever by alleging I...

shafique

What part of the Quranic verses and Hadith in the video confused you herve?

(BTW - the question in 'logic in the Quran' thread is still waiting for you. There it seems to show that you're the one that hasn't read the Quran, not me.)

Cheers,
Shafique

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Thanks, people can now see the discussion that took place and why I sided with the Rabbis who said that Hezbollah are not anti-semitic. They are certainly anti-Zionist and were set up as a National Resistance to Israel's invasion and occupation of Lebanon. OK, so according to you a nazi salute is no...

shafique

The rabbis clearly stated that Hezbollah are not anti-semitic. I agree with them.

You failed. Again.

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Shafique

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The video contains detailed references - from Quran, hadith and scientific papers (indeed, the readings from the latter were quite lengthy).

What confused you herve?

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Shafique

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Aren't Rabbis Jews? If they say Hezbollah are not anti-semitic (but rather anti-Zionist etc), should we not listen to them? :shock: Hezbollah certainly don't like the Israeli military - and were formed to fight against the occupation, and were largely successful, Israel only occupies a small part of...

shafique

The EDL have been photographed giving Nazi salutes in the UK. They claim they are not anti-Semitic and go around with Israeli flags at their demonstrations. Just ask BM, she is a supporter.

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Shafique

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So you think I'm confused. :D Don't change the subject herve - you're just as wrong on this as you were with 'DearJohn is Shafique' conspiracy. (Please start a new thread on cervical cancer rates, and be prepared to look foolish - Again) I asked you specifically what part of the Quranic, Hadith or s...

shafique

Thanks. Where did you get your previous quote from then? The wording is different: Do you verily disbelieve in Him Who created the earth in two Days and you set up rivals (in worship) with Him? That is the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns and all that exists)�. Then He completed and finished from...

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No you didn't. I asked what specific Quranic, Hadith or scientific references confused you from the video. Your only comments seem to be that the narrator is a Muslim.

Anyway - it is clear what Islam teaches and how loons have to rely on Memri specials.

Cheers,
Shafique

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Repeating yourself won't help you herve - I've already stated that 'completed' does not mean 'started' - the verse you left out in your original quote is quite telling. Read that verse and then tell us why the loon website you copied it from left it out. Wishing for a meaning that is not in the Qura...

shafique

What confuses me is the loon belief that Muslims condone paedophilllia despite the clear Quranic, Hadith and Scientific evidence produced to counter this loon claim - based on videos about Khomeni etc.

Now, what confused you about the Quranic etc references in the video?

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Shafique

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:roll: You haven't told us from which website you got the wrong quote which misled you. Now you are trying to put words and meanings into the Quran which aren't there, and haven't acknowledged why you chose to believe a misleading (and wrong) quote to begin with. Just wishing that your loon interpre...

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I asked what specific Quranic, Hadith or scientific references confused you from the video. Your only comments seem to be that the narrator is a Muslim. Anyway - it is clear what Islam teaches and how loons have to rely on Memri specials. I've presented a video that explains that Islam does not con...

shafique

What errors are in the video?

(Points one to three are just your way of saying the video presents facts and not loon fantasies)

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

^You were certain herve was right about DearJohn too.. how did that pan out? ;) If you watched the video, you'd see that the point being made was not about men not following Islamic teachings, but rather the fact that Islam does not allow forced marriages or s.ex outside of marriage. Facts, not hype...

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Facts as in 'not made up by a loon website' and verifiable.

But hey, if you want to continue to believe herve and caps when they quote Memri specials - go ahead.

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Shafique

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Kanelli - I found the information about s.exual maturity through the ages interesting too. However, note that the Quran does not contain actual ages and therefore doesn't need revision - it contains principles which still apply today. The simple rules regarding s.ex are unambiguous - first that it i...

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No, the quote wasn't from the Quran - it was from a loon website and was a misquote, missing out at least a verse. Why are you embarrassed to tell us from which loon website you copied it from? As for your conspiracy theory, here's what you said (emphasis is yours): BM, I have a strong feeling that ...

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Don't let facts get in the way of the exposure of loons getting caught with their pants down (again). eh you can explain to caps who Khomeni is and why Saudis criticising Khomeni does not equal proof that Islam condones paedophillia. You may have to use short words though. ;) herve is beyond hope - ...

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Hey, if you want to believe the 'perception' rather than the facts - there's not much we can do about that.

Cheers,
Shafique

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LOL - 'how certain' was herve about DearJohn being me? His words speak for themselves. He was wrong then, and he's wrong now. But the question remains - from which loon website did he copy the misleading quote from - the one that misses out a whole verse?? It shows loons can't argue using facts. che...

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However, the fact still remains - Islam does not condone forced marriages or s.ex outside of marriage. The rest is loon hype. The video clearly exposes the loon tactics of taking some isolated and condemned practices by some people, and then trying to generalise this to all Muslims or to Islam. Take...

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Back in June, this made the news - it was about religious violence in New York State in a community that strictly segregates women and men:

dubai-politics-talk/religious-violence-nyc-t46627.html

Cheers,
Shafique

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Yes. The video has references - God clearly states that s.ex outside marriage is forbidden and marriage should only be made/consummated after the parties are of appropriate maturity. God also clearly states that consent for marriage is required. Therefore forced marriages are not allowed. Again refe...

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See video for full references (and see edit above). If still confused, let me know which specific reference to Quran, Hadith etc you are having problems understanding. It is not difficult. God's instructions are quite clear. Cheers, Shafique-- Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:37 am --Here's the video again, for h...

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