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I totally agree BM and benwj - but thank goodness he was such a doofus. He seems to have come from a good family in Nigeria - and the Nigerians I spoke to there were horrified that this had happened. And yes, given that he'd got the explosives on board - what's with setting your crotch on fire? What...

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It is no surprise that those who share Brievik's extreme Islamophobia want to downplay the very real threat this ideology has produced with Brievik and these now 2 instances of attacks and planned attacks. What is shocking to me is how easily, it seems, these nutters are able to make explosives. To ...

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BM - has FD and eh taught you how to take quotes out of context, or do you just do this naturally? What's bizarre, is that you quoted my words (leaving out the first sentence in the paragraph, first mentioning Iraq and Afghanistan) right below the original quote. Then you feign ignorance about why I...

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^LOL I guess Hollywood is working on the film of the heroic Dutchman flying through the air to grab the young Nigerian's crotch. ;) I guess the serious point that had it been a competent bomber like those MUSLIMS in Afghanistan and Iraq or those nutters such as Brievik, Mr Underpants and fit Dutch g...

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He was a numpty. As was the shoe bomber. Now what I actually wrote was: I totally agree BM and benwj - but thank goodness he was such a doofus. He seems to have come from a good family in Nigeria - and the Nigerians I spoke to there were horrified that this had happened. And yes, given that he'd got...

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No, Mr. Schuringa is a fit man. I'm picturing Jean-Claude Van Damme in his prime here. He air-jumped from his chair over other chairs that would make a pro American football player jealous. Wow, dramatic stuff. The news reports must have been quite graphic to describe this. Let's see. Air-jumped: w...

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To FD: Yes, and the same report said he clambered over passengers - and didn't put it in quotes. Why you're letting your imagination run wild over me not jumping over and doing sommersaults to disarm the terrorist is a question best not asked. Who knows why you come up with these strange fantastical...

shafique

^Yes, they would have shouted Allahu Akbar after they'd stopped the incompetent bomber.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Loons really are gullible. However, I am never failed to be amused when they start repeating their spin on Islam and political marriages in the past (whilst remaining silent on exactly the same marriages in Europe centuries after the Prophet's marriages) . ;) Someone correct me, but didn't Richard I...

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What is it with these strange fantasies? We have a used car salesman from Texas making a deal with an undercover cop posing as Mexican Drugs Cartel in a plot to blow up a restaurant where the Saudi Ambassador has breakfast! C'mon - even loons should see how crazee this is. I just quoted the authorit...

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MCL - I've been speaking out against speculation and derivatives for years. I wasn't alone - Warren Buffet called derivatives 'financial weapons of mass destruction' - and I agreed with him. (I actually worked for a Berkshire Hathaway company before joining AIG). I also agreed with Noriel Roubini wh...

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Bora - was I unclear when I replied to your post and wrote: The young guy is definitely a terrorist. The point was exactly that in Afganistan, Iraq and indeed Pakistan they know how to make IEDs - and that in Europe the right-wing terrorists just need Google to help them make bombs. Surely if the lo...

shafique

I've downloaded the full 35 page paper, but haven't read it yet. I plan to do so over the next week.

I'm currently busy with preparations for a long trip that will start on Monday.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Where do I acknowledge the terrorist is a terrorist? How about in the first sentence in my reply to you below: The young guy is definitely a terrorist. The point was exactly that in Afganistan, Iraq and indeed Pakistan they know how to make IEDs - and that in Europe the right-wing terrorists just ne...

shafique

I think there's a glitch in the system.

I seem to recall an eerily similar thread:
dubai-chat/the-universe-and-life-computer-simulation-t45389.html

My response hasn't changed. But still an interesting theory.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I don't worship any man. I think you're confused (as usual) caps.

But you're right - not many Europeans marry 7 year olds today. But they did. How many Muslims do you know who today follow Richard II's example? Why did he marry a 7 year old?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

You could have just said 'No, I don't know of any Muslims following the example of Richard the II'.

The correct answer to why Richard II married a 7 year old is - 'It was a political marriage'.

(You're welcome)

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

No.

Simple answer to a simple question.

But more to the point, Islam does not condone pre-marital s.ex, under aged s.ex or forced marriages. Despite what loons want to believe.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

:roll: Please re-read the last sentence of my last post. Then read the sentence before that. Can you now see why you've failed? Now - the fact is that Richard II etc married young girls for political reasons. This was in Europe centuries after the Prophet, pbuh, had passed away. The Prophet, pbuh, e...

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So, you'd argue that Richard II was a paedophile for entering into an arranged marriage with a 7 year old for political reasons. Hmm.

However, my point still stands:
Islam does not condone forced marriages, under-age s.ex. Despite what loons argue.

Cheers,
Shafique

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Another loon fantasy that is not based on reality. The problem with the loon version of history is that Muslims don't actually believe the loon version, nor do they act upon it. Muslims instead consider the Prophet, pbuh, to embody all the virtues of a moral, just, loving, compassionate, loyal, brav...

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Yes, we know what the loon version of history is and how they demonise Muhammad, pbuh. As stated above, Muslims don't believe the loon spin and in all the accusations you've levelled against the historical events, the loon spin was exposed. In this case, child marriages for political reasons was bei...

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No probs Bora Bora. Always happy to clarify to clear up any misunderstanding.

Cheers,
Shafique

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Well, you thinking Islam is weak for me pointing out that European monarchs also practised child marriages for political means sounds mightily like 'sour grapes' to me. But back to this thread's topic - glad to see that there's no argument that Islam does not condone forced marriages or s.ex or inde...

shafique

^The film is also available to download on torrent sites. Haven't downloaded it yet, but it looks interesting and certainly one I'll dl and watch.

Will also see if I can get the book too. Edit - book is also freely available as a pdf.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

You have a weird way of reading posts BM. I started off by agreeing with you, mentioned the numptie's family ... then went on to talk about the puzzling aspect of the failed terrorist attack - the lack of expertise. I stated that Muslims in Iraq etc don't have a problem with explosive manufacture, n...

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A Jewish author is interviewed about his book, and we get two loons telling us they won't watch the interview. But then again, loons like to lecture Muslims about Islam - so logic (or consistency) isn't a strong point. "Those grapes must be sour!!" ;) http://www.sallyminker.com/art/2-d/ima...

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Gertrude - I'm glad that you've got half the argument. Well done. So, we agree that there's a difference between a political marriage between a ruler and a child bride and paedophilia. The question then becomes whether the one marriage of the Prophet to Aisha was political or not. To Muslims and his...

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Loon's and their wild theories, eh!!?

Loons are easily identifiable to the rest of us... a common trait is to speak about issues they admit to knowing nothing about, like this interview.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

^Well summed up. There is a difference though - the resident loons blame Islam for terrorist acts carried out by Muslims whereas I haven't come across a post which blames Christianity for paedophillia. ;) What's great about the OP is that the account of how the initial misinformation/scepticism of I...

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