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I keep repeating a fact that the majority of Israelis want the prisoner exchange.

You do realise that 63% is a majority, don't you?

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Shafique

shafique

VK/DJ - you guys have lost me. What is your 'discussion' about?

You lost me at 'the smell of wee'

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Shafique

shafique

The entire point is that FD misrepresented a quote from Karmi criticising Segregationism and presented it as evidence of anti-semitism. He left out the starting sentence of the paragraph he quoted WITHOUT reference. Inserting [Jewish] into the quote above doesn't change the fact that Karmi is talki...

shafique

So explain to me - which is worse and why? A beheading that was filmed and the Jewish terrorists murdering two sergeants in cold blood and then laying booby traps to kill those coming to collect them. I think both are horrific as both killed their captives- but the Jewish Irgun Terrorists are worse ...

shafique

:D So I'm the one who is stupid because I stated a fact that the majority of Israelis want the prisoner/hostage exchange. I think the penny dropped that 63% is indeed 'a majority'. Did you come to this conclusion by yourself, or did someone help you with the concept? Anyway - lack of comprehension a...

shafique

The desecration of graves continues - this time against Christian and Muslim graves in Jaffa in Israel (I checked the map... and I'll take the post 1948 war borders into consideration and put Jaffa in Israel) The cemeteries were desecrated on Friday, the eve of Yom Kippur, when headstones were smash...

shafique

I understand BM's denial of the fact that the majority of Israelis are in favour of Shalit being exchanged for prisoners/hostages held by Israel. That is relevant to this thread. DDS' comment about FD being a spokesman for the Israelis is a bit off topic - but FD's is way out there. I guess that the...

shafique

Who says the majority of Israelis want the exchange? Some dodgy website or you as the person with the mandate to speak for the Israelis? The quote was from Haaretz newspaper and referenced a poll of Israelis. 63% in favour of exchange, BM in denial. Still. :roll: I guess that there's not much more ...

shafique

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree.

Booby trapping bodies so that more are killed is more despicable than filming the deaths. Had irgun had video cameras back then, they too would have videoed the murders in cold blood. The photos of the hanging bodies are there on the web.

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Shafique

shafique

The world is in the grip of Segregationism, yes, and Karmi gives examples of this.

Inserting [Jewish] into the quote above doesn't change the fact that Karmi is talking about Segregationism, and I agree with him on this.

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Shafique

shafique

Be fair eh (fat chance) - the crisis was not down to those taking out mortgages, but those private bankers who gave out the loans, collaterised them and sold them off to people who should have known better that the CDOs etc aren't really AAA+. Those that made money out of the whole affair are the mo...

shafique

Interesting.

Let's see whether anything changes. Who knows, perhaps an 'American Spring' type change may happen in this too?

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Shafique

shafique

Perhaps this is another case for Inspector Clouseau to solve?

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Shafique

shafique

Thanks VK - I guess I can follow the spat from now on.

I'm wondering - when will we get to 'My daddy's bigger than yours!'

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Shafique

shafique

You've put the horse before the cart, eh. FD misquoted Karmi by cutting out the sentence about Segregationism, and you're trying to have a second go by looking at another paragraph. But here too, the subject is segregationism - and he rightly points out that dividing humanity into two groups is segr...

shafique

'As usual'? You mean you're going to ignore the past prisoner/hostage exchanges and the fact that the majority of Israelis want it to happen?

But fair enough - let's spare a thought for all hostages, especially the women and children. Shame Israel is resisting their release.

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Shafique

shafique

Your wishful thinking and snippets won't disguise the fact that FD's misleading quote comes from an article about segregationism - and which focuses on Palestine. When you read the whole paragraph, and especially when you read the whole article, you see why FD didn't give a reference when he deceitf...

shafique

Do the reasons for giving houses away like candy change the fact that giving houses away like candy led to the financial crisis? Young one, you're missing the point. The problem wasn't giving out houses. The problem was giving out mortgages - those mortgages were given out by institutions voluntari...

shafique

Thankfully the majority of Israelis want Shalit released and want the exchange to take place. The women and children being held hostage are indeed in my mind - therein lies the difference between us. But thankfully, your views on this, again, are in a minority. And frankly dear... you know the rest....

shafique

Great points Bora. I agree.

'nuff said.

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Shafique

shafique

Wow - knickers in a twist in multiple forums. Impressive!

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Shafique

shafique

BB - I will look up film and book. Two books covering the crisis which I've read and recommend are: Return of Depression Economics and the crisis of 2008 - Paul Krugman and Crisis Economics: A Crash Course in the Future of Finance - Noriel Roubini: http://www.amazon.com/Crisis-Economics-Course-Futur...

shafique

You need to look up the term strawman - and then also read the fact that I'm not asking you about your views on the Democrats - but on the bailouts.

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Shafique

shafique

Let me be green. This was my first post in this thread. There is no excuse for causing the deaths of civilians - and I am glad that those responsible for the deaths have been arrested. It is interesting to note that more Muslims polled agree with this than many other groups: http://www.dubaiforums.c...

shafique

You were also convinced that FD's misleading quote was evidence of anti-semitism. When the full quote was produced and the deceit exposed, you changed your tune and looked for another quote to selectively quote. Karmi is stating that a doctrine that splits humanity in two is segregationist, in a par...

shafique

eh - let me repeat, I'm asking you about the bailouts. Try and focus. (I understand and agree that you think the protestor's anger should be at Democrats and Republicans - and I understand you are arguing they are wrong to be angry at Republicans. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and agree tha...

shafique

The inability is not on the part of Karmi - he has quite ably stated that splitting humanity in two is segregationist. I agree with him. He says the world is in the grip of the doctrine of 'Segregationism' and doesn't say the world is in the grip of a 'Jewish doctrine' - no matter how much you wish ...

shafique

I don't understand the graffiti "Price Tag" could someone please illuminate me. The New York Times defines price tag attacks as incidents in which radical Jewish settlers "exact a price from local Palestinians or from the Israeli security forces for any action taken against their set...

shafique

Here's my reply to FD when I uncovered his deceit. The full article is linked. I think I found the quote, it is from 'How Holy is Palestine': http://www.isesco.org.ma/english/publications/Holypalestine/CH1.php Reading through, I really can't see why you think stating that historically the facts abou...

shafique

Umm - the vote was for Palestine submitting a bid that will be voted on, not for full membership yet. The US is threatening to stop paying its dues to UNESCO if the vote goes through and Palestine is admitted. The Obama administration warned the U.N. cultural agency to stay out of the question of Pa...

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