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shafique

^Thanks for sharing your views. As usual, you haven't actually addressed the facts in the post - just given us your beliefs - and indeed showing why I needed to state 'facts not hype' to contrast the reality of the situation vs fanbois spin. But hey, I fully understand - when the truth is laid out s...

shafique

If by transnational you mean terrorists who target other countries - then yes, we have Jewish terror groups that have exported terrorists to other countries and who carried out religiously motivated terror attacks against unarmed civilians in a mosque - Baruch Goldstein was a member of the Jewish De...

shafique

(Or 'Where's Waldo' if you're not a Brit) It's been now over a week since event horizon has abandoned the Religion forum - he's posting his usual stuff in the politics forum, so he's around. ;) How long shall we wait? Nope, eh, you won't get away with starting new threads to get away from threads yo...

shafique

Baroness Flather (who isn't an MP as BM claimed, but a life peer - :roll: ) is entitled to her view - the old dear. She comes from an extended Indian family herself, but perhaps she has conveniently forgotten this fact in her 'strongly expressed views' (aka 'rant') against Pakistani and Bangladeshi ...

shafique

Stats is what I asked for eh, not a poor excuse for why the stats won't support the theory that immigrants have larger families BECAUSE of benefits. Cause and effect. Back when there were 'No Blacks, No Irish, No Dogs' signs in the UK - the average Irish family was larger than usual - but this was d...

shafique

Kahanist Jewish Terror groups: 1. Religiously motivated terrorists 2. Are carrying out trans-national operations. Questioned asked in thread title and OP, question answered. Why are you still confused? Could it be because you refuse to condemn the American born terrorist Baruch Goldstein? Cheers, Sh...

shafique

Ah, the prodigal son returns! Welcome to the religion forum after 8 days eh. Why are you ignoring the plethora of questions in multiple threads (some of which you started)? My offer to address this topic AFTER you've tackled the prior questions still stands. What's the matter young one - has Guru Bo...

shafique

What bizare logic - you believe in talking donkeys, but yet have invented a new religion where the 'condemned' Hindus DON'T go to hell and you refuse to divulge what this new religion of yours says about where they go to. LOL Nice one. In Christianity, the condemned go to hell. Christians use the Bi...

shafique

RC the question is whether the Baroness is right about WHY some choose to have children - her argument is that they do it for the benefits. If they are 'following the same pattern in own countries' then it is not because of benefits. I'm not sure they'll agree with you that it is 'stupid' to have mo...

shafique

RC - I'm not sure how many dustmen (or Bangladeshis or Pakistanis) have 10 children and subsist on only benefits. I've heard of a few English people in the press who have loads of kids and exist only on benefits - but these aren't typical. The point is whether the Baroness is correct in her view tha...

shafique

There I was thinking that the core issue of the continued Military Occupation by Israel of Palestine was the Military Occupation! Refugees from Israel, status of Jerusalem and indeed the colonies (aka 'settlements') built on land Occupied in 1967 are issues to be resolved - but the core issue remain...

shafique

I guess I will tire of referring to eh's belief in talking donkeys eventually - but until then, trust me, it is no effort. ;) As for whether my stating the fact that the Baroness herself comes from an Indian extended family is relevant in a thread about her statement on the size of families of Pakis...

shafique

What was racist - the Baroness distinguishing between Pakistani and Indian, or my statement that she came from an extended family from within the one she said didn't have the 'problem'? Why must everything be supported by statistics, you ask? Well, not everything - but things that can be verified by...

shafique

You're in a minority FD - the rest of the world understand that the issue is the Military Occupation that's the main issue.

Anyway - the UN vote is this week, as is Netanyahu's 'speech of truth'. Let's see what develops.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Nucleus - I'm sure he has indeed read these passages, given that I have quoted them before - including the 'fire and brimstone' passages. However, the young extremist can't acknowledge these verses as he is trying (but failing) to argue that Islam's descriptions of Hell are somehow less horrific tha...

shafique

^RC, I'm glad you eventually did look at the evidence. I did read it, and it showed that there is no basis for the Baroness' view that Immigrants have larger families BECAUSE of benefits. I don't see that. The vast majority of benefit recipients are not Immigrants. 'Over representation' means that t...

shafique

What part of 'the vast majority of those on social housing are not immigrants' confused you? And how does the 'over representation' in social housing of Jamaicans etc reflect on the thread title - that Immigrants have larger families BECAUSE of benefits? Look back at my earlier post where I stated '...

shafique

Her statement was specifically that they had children for benefits and then that: The cross-bencher said benefit cuts could help to discourage extra births. No evidence has been produced to support this belief. You have not addressed this point. Whilst some communities may have larger families - the...

shafique

^There's no evidence that this is the case. That's just a belief that the Baroness put out, and doesn't seem to be supported by any evidence. The point is whether the Baroness is correct in her view that the REASON 'immigrants' have children is for the benefits. It appears to be a view that can be t...

shafique

Please specify who 'these people' are specifically and which benefits you are calling to be cut. What would be the reason for cutting the benefit, and what would it achieve. (We may find that 'these people' only exist in the Baroness' imagination.. and you'd be asking me to cut benefits to imaginary...

shafique

The Baroness wasn't talking about Singapore or Hong Kong - and in any case, you haven't shown cause and effect. Birth rates have dropped world wide for a number of differing reasons. In England, 90% of those in social housing are white - so again, I'm struggling to see what the fuss is. This thread ...

shafique

Cause and effect, RC. China is a very good example - just look up the concerns for their 'demographic timebomb'. But do you have no comment for the fact that 90% of those on social housing in England are white, and therefore presumably not going to be affected by 'huge families' etc? Cheers, Shafique

shafique

Facts, not hype indeed. Did you even look up the concerns about China's demographic timebomb (concerns the government itself has)? The top link: http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2091308,00.html If you are still confused, let me know. But back to this thread's topic: But do you have no c...

shafique

I'll presume then that you are confusing 'larger' with 'huge' - no problem then - and are indeed only referring to a minority of people on benefit. See, statistics are very helpful when assessing the strengths of arguments. Even if the Baroness is correct (which there's no evidence) reducing the num...

shafique

Glad you have no questions on the 'off topic statements' which stemmed from your posts about other countries ;) My offer to reconsider my views if any evidence to support the Baroness' views that cutting child benefits will have any meaningful impact (or indeed that there is a problem to begin with)...

shafique

I disagree - parents' face time is not proportional to the number of children, but rather relates to how much time parents want to devote to their children. In short, a single child or two children may be worse looked than a larger family - and vice versa. Indeed, some argue that if both parents wor...

shafique

Where's the smoke and mirrors? I disagree with your proposition. I could also argue that those who have more children are more likely to care about children. Arithmetic is quite simple - time in front of children is not dependant on the number of children, but time in front of children (doh). But no...

shafique

The US vetoing the plan hardly puts a spanner in the works - the diplomatic initiative is working very well at the moment. Israel is being more and more isolated, and the US desperately don't want to use the veto - as they are vetoing exactly what they have said they'd support - a two state solution...

shafique

You do know that there are many Indian Muslim and even White Muslims, don't you? The point is that you're the one who is trying hard to justify a desire to reduce the size of families. I'm all for letting people choose the size of their families and will always ask people what they are basing their ...

shafique

gerts - I think you have the wrong thread - I have posted official stats from the Norwegian government which show there isn't an epidemic of rapes by immigrants (but rather that the majority are carried out by Norwegians). But thanks for highlighting that there are gullible bloggers out there that c...

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