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St.Lucifer wrote:Shafique, With no ill intentions, do you think islam is the best religion?

Yes.

It is the only religion that claims to be complete and final.

Also, from a logical perspective, it stands up to close scrutiny.

Cheers,
Shafique

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Shafique, With no ill intentions, do you think islam is the best religion? i think no one should answer that question dude, what are you trying to do seriously :evil: I think it's a legitimate question and you will see above I have answered. However, I have to say that you can't reallly answer the ...

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Well, I've said a lot about the merits of atheism over my time on here and I stand by them. If you want to believe, it's up to you though, neither of us will ever prove otherwise. However, on the logic point, Islam still relies on a leap of faith like all other faiths, once you've made that leap I'...

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Interesting points St Luc - but I don't think I was wrong... let me explain. Yes, Krishna is not viewed as a religious founder by the Hindus, however I do believe he was a mortal person who founded the religion. I believe he was elevated to the status of a god over time - but if you go back to his o...

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Valkyrie, I think we've discussed the Islamic view of creation and evolution before - when discussing the Quranic verses about creation - that life was created from inorganic material and water (dust and water) and that man and all living creatures did evolve. We do not believe we evolved from moder...

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Thank for your clarifications. I meant Brahman and not Brahma - thanks for highlighting the difference. Islam is not bound by Good vs Evil - I'm not sure where you got that from, there is no fight as such. God created humans with the capacity of choice - evil is just the lack of goodness, like dark ...

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Coexistence, hmm. So Islam or its people dont believe or dont recognize or dont respect any new age religions? No, we don't believe in following other religions or believe in the claims of the founders of the newer religions. That would be obvious, I would think. However Islam teaches tolerance and...

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I sense a fight brewing. :) I know better than to step into two ladies having a lively discussion. :lol: StL - yes I am aware of the Babri incident. A lot of harm is done in the name of religion, just as a lot of harm is done in the name of nationalism (Hitler, for example). We can Imagine a world w...

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I'm pro-choice, therefore if people want to follow a religion and think it's important, I won't presume to tell them they're wrong. From an academic standpoint, empirically religion has done more good than harm and therefore mankind has benefited from religion. I just see what happens to societies t...

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I don't equate religion with intolerance or being closed minded. That is certainly not what Islam teaches. As for socitiety not benefiting from religious values, I would be interested in hearing your arguements for it being detrimental (empirically). I would be particularly interested in hearing why...

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I say let everyone choose what they want to follow - religion is, after all, only a set of rules by which one chooses to live one's life. It is like saying, people who believe in religion are limited cos they're put inside the box i.e set of rules, which they're bound to follow. It is also the same...

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Good bye - sorry to see you go.

All the best for the future.

Cheers,
Shafique

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mmm Doughnuts

(I haven't had any sweets or cakes for 6 weeks now... but strangely, no cravings unless I'm reading this thread

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Laws of man is quite different from laws of God like what religious peeps are saying. Unless if the laws of the land were pattern from religious books. Hahah... made me laugh. Do government officials who implement the laws have rituals? I wouldn't go by what 'peeps are saying' - unless, of course, ...

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Jabba - good post. I will not put myself as an expert on Buddhism, but what I was saying was that the original teachings of Buddha was monotheistic, and that this later was modified over time. I draw parallels between Sufi teachings (very philosophical) in relation to 'orthodox' Islam, and the curre...

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But I still find it hard to concur that prayers are answered to some, but not the majority. Malnutrition plays a role in at least half of the 10.9 million child deaths each year--five million deaths. I can't equate the figures (well not now as I need to leave in a minute) - but I don't think I woul...

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Hasn't this discussion gone on before? I think the question is to open. Obviously for some people religion is important, and that's fine. For others it's not important, and that's also fine. People can believe whatever they want, so long as they don't try and impose their views on others, then that...

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Shafique :) I know this discussion can go on never ending. :D Lets hope more and more people, who are into distructive mode, take up light views on religion. I found your faith strong but your views very different from publics view. What we need is people to think more rational and realistic.If rel...

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Shafique, Idol worship is something that is largely misunderstood. :) the concept is not worshipping the stine. although it may have derailed to such a state at many a place.. I consider its there in every religion in one form or the other. :) I understand where you are coming from - I pray facing ...

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Scot you raise interesting points. Philosophically, if God did make it obvious how and who to pray, that will remove the element of choice in religion. Your theory about religion being man-made is a valid one. So is my often quoted theory of creation - we were all created 5 minutes ago with ready ma...

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I came across this passage today in a book that I thought I'd share: Today the West often views Islam as a civilization very different from and indeed innately hostile to Christianity. Only when you travel in Christianity’s Eastern homelands do you realize how closely the two religions are really li...

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My main point is that religion it is not an essential pre-requisite for living a moral & wholesome life. I agree with you that religion is not an essential pre-requisite for any one person. Laws are not a requisite for someone to not commit crimes and one can live a moral life without having re...

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St Luc - the point I would make in return is a statistical one (I'm an actuary by profession, so I find comfort in numbers - so excuse me). The point is that if one were to do the research, the proportion of troublemakers amongst football supporters is more than the proportion of troublemakers among...

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Jabba - what is the name of the book? As for the Christian cousin of the Prophet's , pbuh, that was Christian - it was a man named Waraqa bin Naufal. See the following Hadith: Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 1, Number 3: Narrated 'Aisha: (the mother of the faithful believers) The commencement of the D...

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I'll start with the last point first - but will use numbers instead of percentages :) Sorry for my ill knowledge on this subject, but I've seen how mass hysteria works. Some faiths have instilled such strong religious bond in people that when a religious leader evokes an issue, it is supported by al...

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A genuine question (as in I don't know the answer) - but who knows what the origin of Jebel Ali is? Jebel = mountain, Ali = name of a person - so it means 'Moutain Ali' or 'Ali's mountain'. However, there isn't a mountain there as far as I can tell. Google, for once, failed me - but it was interesti...

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I think you are correct.

Cheers,
Shafique

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Excellent first post Strawberries, and great nickname too.

Welcome.

cheers,
Shafique

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Sounds interesting - thanks Fayz and Mema.

I have to say, I've not noticed a hill - hence the question. I'll keep an eye out for it next time I go down to the beach or go shooting.

Cheers,
Shafique

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Jabba, Excellent choice. I've got a number of Karen Armstrong books - a short history of Islam is a good book and covers the material very well. I find her books more readable than Bernard Lewis' books (she is also more balanced in her views - but Lewis is also in his element when he is just describ...

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