What part of 'the fascists were the ones arrested' confused you, eh? Or was it the part about Muslims coming to the defence of Tatchell? I know you are very unhappy that the drunken louts you support failed miserably at the weekend and were arrested, but c'mon - this was a very, very weak spin. Chee...
v2.217 is quite clear on the subject: ..And whoever of you reverts from his religion [to disbelief] and dies while he is a disbeliever - for those, their deeds have become worthless in this world and the Hereafter, and those are the companions of the Fire, they will abide therein eternally. vs 2.62 ...
Err, no - let's deal with whether Hindus go to hell or not according to the Bible. 'He that believeth not shall be damned' and 'he that believeth not is condemned already , because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:16-18)' You asked for the Biblical references...
Hey, if believing in logical explanations and interpretations of the metaphorical verses of the Quran makes me a weirdo in your eyes - so be it. But let me ask you this question: "What benefit and what practical aspect of Islam would change (i.e. what action I am currently doing will change) IF...
Well, this thread was always about 44 fascist, drunken thugs being arrested - and contrasting with the spin eh tried to put on it (we both quoted the same article, and his one was first). I understand why eh is supporting the drunken louts who got themselves arrested after their coach broke down - i...
Blueshift - the freedom of conscience is not guaranteed under human rule, no. However the Quran is quite clear that Islam teaches complete freedom of conscience and anyone restricting it is violating God's commandment: 2.256 - 'There is no compulsion in religion/faith..' As for metaphorical verses o...
Berrin, I can indeed quote from Tafsir about the metaphorical meanings of the verses regarding Solomon. However, before I do that, I asked you the question concerning these types of verses (and indeed, in my reply to blueshift I quoted 3.7 of the Quran too). Specifically, please address what practic...
Haaretz reports a bizare twist in the on-going struggle in Occupied Palestine - this time with the colonials revolting against the Military Occupying Forces. The military demolished three illegal colonist houses, and then two days later a bunch of colonials vandalise a miltary base and damage 12 veh...
Ah, I was wondering when the resident BNP supporter would turn up. I was even wondering whether you had been banged up with the losers over the weekend. ;) Isn't it great when the English people of the East End can rally together and defeat the drunk rabble who assaulted police, and then the coach b...
EDL drunken louts got arrested, and our resident EDL supporters are not happy with this fact. But we have young eh to thank for giving us all non-Fascists a laugh at the poetic justice meted out to the EDL drunkards who assaulted the police and got arrested. Herve's misguided intervention and BM's r...
So Shafique is saying why should it matter if he believes in talking ants or not as there is no code of moral behaviour that derives from the literal truth of the existence of talking ants. So nobody says, "I'm going to do some act because ants spoke, but if ants never spoke I'd do something d...
Are you saying there are verses in the Bible that contradict : he that believeth not shall be damned. (Mark 16:14-16) and he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:16-18) Please provide these contradictory verses and...
Uaekid - the fact that there are so many Iranians who follow Judaism is a well known fact for all those who have looked beyond the headlines and hype about Iran. Sym and Mel have confirmed this is the case - and the Iranians who are Jewish are apparently proud to be Iranian and their culture etc. Th...
What - again with the Police conspiracy theory? :roll: Your fascist drunken louts were the ones arrested by the Police - the anti-fascists weren't arrested. Reasonable people would say that you are being silly by trying to portray the anti-fascists as the bad guys when they weren't the ones who were...
a special undercover team of paid workers whose job it will be to surf the internet 24 hours a day spreading positive news about Israel. .. hmm, you mean we may have some guys here who have no discernible connection with Dubai and spend their time supporting Israel and attacking Muslims? Really... ...
Interesting aspect of the Palestinian diplomatic efforts at the UN is the following view in Haaretz today that it may make it easier to try Israelis for the war crimes they are carrying out. Under international law it is a war crime to transfer land captured militarily to the population of the occup...
Now, what did I say about loons and them believing their own spin. :roll: Mel and Sym are hardly fans of the current Iranian leadership - and even your loon snippet confirms that Iranian Jews are proud to be Iranian. Nothing in the article contradicts the fact that anti-semitism in Europe has left v...
Eh - anti-Semitism is a European disease, historically and by numbers. The latter day examples of violence against Jews in Muslim countries are bad, but are not on the same scale or violence as the Christian and secular attacks on Jews. By contrast, Iranian Jews are constitutionally equal to Iranian...
LOL - nice spin there eh. Facts are facts though - when talking about terrorism in Europe and USA it is a perverse logic for someone to argue that we should NOT look at the number of terrorist attacks carried out by Muslims vs the number carried out by Non-Muslims. Your strawman of looking at outlie...
Please provide these contradictory verses and explain how it is unclear that Hindus won't be among those who are damned and condemned according to these verses. I trust you won't make me ask this question the usual 50+ times before you answer. Biblical references should take the form of a quote or ...
Our young Christian poster, event horizon, appears to be in some confusion over the Biblical verses. In some instances he refuses to accept the Biblical descriptions of events: http://www.dubaiforums.com/philosophy-dubai/jews-responsible-for-killing-jesus-t40429.html Where the Bible says Jews were r...
:D BM - as you do have a link with Dubai, you should have understood that I wasn't actually referring to you. Indeed, that you even thought I did is funny. It is the young loon that hasn't got a discernible connection with Dubai. You're just an older, BNP/EDL supporting self-confessed bigot. Israeli...
BM, no sorry I don't consider myself to be a bigot. But given you're proud to be one - I can only imagine you're projecting again. What makes me proud to be English are the anti-fascists English of all races who saw off your drunken EDL friends over the weekend. ;) As for Shameless - my wife actuall...
:D Hey, BM is proud to be a bigot and supports racists who assault police. No need to dis me for opposing her friends and disagreeing with her projection. ;) If you want to believe I'm a bigot for my political or religious views - go ahead. I've been called an anti-semite for opposing Israel's milit...
:D Another terrorist export from the USA was Baruch Goldstein - an American doctor who went to live in Occupied Palestine (Hebron) and was a member of Jewish Defense League (who carried out terrorist bombings in the USA), and then went on to be a religously motivated terrorist who killed worshippers...
You're the one that is denial and wanting to believe snippets on loon websites. The statistics are there and are quite clear - 99.5% of terrorist acts carried out by non-Muslims is quite decisive. Why struggle against the truth and resort to name calling? Could it be because that is all you have lef...