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Here is the relevant part of the speech - my mistake it was 400,000 since WW1 with 300,000 of these coming after WWII: Much emphasis has also been placed on the humanitarian aspect of this question, an aspect which is not denied. But from the humanitarian point of view, it is not only a question of ...

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Valkyrie - 'Arab lands' meant just that, not multiple Arab countries. The big point, as highlighted in the speech, was that these immigrants were absorbed without any significant disturbance - only one or two clashes with casualties of a few hundred in total over the period (imagine an influx of 300...

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By strange coincidence, an item on BBC news today talks about an Arab in Tunisia being considered for a 'Righteous Gentile' award by Israel for helping Jews when the country was under Nazi rule. Also a reference at the end of the King of Morocco also helping Jews during the period. http://news.bbc.c...

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Ian - I think your intention is lost the guys here

What I don't understand is why he copied Charlie Chaplin's moustache?

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Isn't this a philosophical question? Is this in the right forum?

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Take care Nick - Hope our paths may cross in real life one day.

Cheers,
Shafique

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Ian - what have you started here?

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I've read quite a lot of Bernard Lewis - he has written a number of books on the history of the middle east. However, he is not an unbiased writer and is Islamophobic - but in an quasi-intellectual way. Karen Williams is a more balanced contemporary historian (she is not a Muslim, but a former nun) ...

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oh - and another point... note that Lewis says "The Golden Age of equal rights was a myth, " The period of the Golden Age was not one that Jews celebrated because they had the same rights as Muslims - as in my previous post it is clear that they had fewer obligations than Muslims when it c...

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Wiki also has an account of the Jewish immigration to Palestine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaliyah Notably the tensions between Arabs and Jewish immigrants only started to happen in the 20s (and I still maintain this was not widespread - from reading through the accounts of the various clashes an...

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Valkyrie - ok, I think we can agree on the following: - there were clashes between Arabs and Jews prior to the establishment of Israel. - Jews weren't uniformly and universally well treated under the many centuries of Islamic rule - Bernard Lewis knows more languages than Karen Williams [Edit - I me...

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It's widely quoted that Iranian President Ahmadinejad said in a speech that Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth/map, or something along these lines. On the BBC News website today, one comment left there struck me as worthy of investigating to see whether true or not: http://newsforums.b...

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Benwj - I agree with your assessment, but like you I was curious as well. On the one hand, I don't think he had any chance of being buddies with Tel Aviv; but I suppose there is a point about gaining more credibility and standing amongst others around the world. Anyway - it appears the answer is on ...

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A positive story for a change - thanks to M & J blog for highlighting this: http://education.independent.co.uk/schools/article2201860.ece King David Primary School, (a state school in Birmingham, UK), which is a Jewish institution where half the pupils are Muslim. It's infant prize day at King D...

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I see that the fact the US administration shipped over $12bn in notes (363 tonnes of it) to Iraq and then went on to distribute it without much thought of accounting for it has made the news. Details of the shipments have emerged in a memorandum prepared for the meeting of the House committee on ove...

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yup - the interesting point here is that all the kids learn Hebrew and the Jewish prayers - Muslim parents interviewed included ones that moved to the area so that they could send their kids to the school. There are sikhs and christians in the school and the article states that a recent starter is C...

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Fayz, No - I haven't seen the channel yet, I haven't found it when I channel hop. I have a DIC box - do you know if it is being shown on this? I confess that I tend to only watch BBC News on Dubai TV and watch downloads of programmes from the US (Lost, ER, CSIs etc - currently watching Heroes from t...

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Update - found the channel, it was no where near the arabic original channel in the list. First impressions are that it is very professionally put together with some interesting Documentaries advertised (Witness looks intriguing, for example). I knew Rageh Omar and Sir David Frost had joined them, b...

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No - the school has been around for many years and is just very good academically and accepts all faiths. Muslims have the advantage of the comfort that the food served there is legal for them - as Kosher is as good as Halaal for Muslims.

Cheers,
Shafique

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A news item about a US survey:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6376421.stm

Ok - let the comments fly..

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I'm happy to debate these issues with you - but I fear you are not looking for a rational debate. Capital punishment forms part of a judicial system for a society and is found in secular societies around the world - eg China and the US. If one accepts the premise that we need laws and systems of pun...

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Interesting first point about childhood having changed from the 'middle class view of childhood' - that the world has moved on. My opinion is that children and childhood hasn't changed - sure the environment has, but there have been many societies in the past that had highly s.e.x.ualised public dis...

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Strewth Paranoid, take a chill pill. Firstly, there is no punishment of Apostacy in the Quran and the Holy Prophet, pbuh, never said a person who renounces Islam should be killed, nor is there any record of any punishment being meted out to anyone renouncing Islam. On the contrary the Quran talks ab...

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There is a common misconception that Islam teaches that a person who renounces Islam should be put to death - i.e. the punishment for apostacy is death. This is certainly the view of some scholars and some 'Islamic' authorities today, but this has no basis in the Quran or in the practice of the Holy...

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How one chooses to live their life is a choice. One learns that a person cannot act out all their fantasies, or even fulfil all their wishes in life. Setting up a family and living with other people in general involves compromises and selfless acts. Being attracted to younger women does not mean I h...

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Just give me the references in the Quran - Sura and Verse number and I'll look them up. I can read Arabic, but am not fluent in Arabic. As I said before, if you want to live your life in a same gender relationship - fine, go ahead. The Quran does not say you should be killed, and neither do I. If yo...

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Alright maybe you can help me get the verse. It's from surat Al-ma'eda , verse number 33. The prophet's saying about killing those who leave Islam was narrated by Al-bukhari and Ahmed bin Hanbal taken from Abdullah Bin Abbas. All of those are supposed to be credible people, no? Ok, let us see the v...

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But we were taught that the "waging war against allah and his prophet" part was not to be taken litterarly and it dosen't mean waging an actual war, but that it means "if you sin and go against thier words" by doing what people such as road bandits do. And the different punishme...

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Being 'Gay' is a choice - in-so-far as acting on those impulses goes. So its OK for you to act on your impuses and make love with someone of the opposite gender, but its not OK for a homosexual to act on their impuses make love with someone of the same gender? No - Islam does not single out homo.s....

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Is there a Gay Gene? The first hit from Google when searching 'genetic homosexuality' was: http://www.narth.com/docs/istheregene.html Excerpts: How The Public Was Misled In July of 1993, the prestigious research journal Science published a study by Dean Hamer which claims that there might be a gene ...

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Iran - What did the Pres. actually say?

Jewish school where half pupils are Muslim!

Anyone seen the missing $12bn in notes?

Sexualisation 'harms' young girls

Apostacy in Islam

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