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Another epic failure of comprehension (worth unhiding your comment, young one). Genetic differences between individuals hasn't been disputed by anyone here - not least me. What has been disputed is the myth of racial/genetic explanations for cultural/technological differences. However, good manners ...

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^BM - so you'd not allow girls to sit out PE lessons if they have their period? Perhaps the schools my eldest daughter attended in the UK, Dubai and here in Mauritius are unusually lenient?? Do you think they are singling out 'shy girls' and should insist they should all take part in PE?? Cheers, Sh...

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What I'm interested in, is some understanding of biological differences between humans of different races and it's impact on health conditions, illneses etc. I think this is an interesting topic too - also the genetic variation within races too. Intelligance? Inherently how can you respect of dispu...

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So, is a Public School being turned into a 'ballet school' if they hold ballet classes once a week? ;) Amazing how much hatred is being spewed over the news that some Muslim children are listening to a Friday sermon and praying in a school hall once a week (including the girls who are having periods...

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I agree that Ballet is not the same as a Friday sermon and collective prayer - but in the respect that both are held for those who wish to attend, I do think they are the same in this respect. Did the original article say that non-Muslims were excluded? I don't see anything wrong with non-Muslims be...

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the clue was in the words 'in this respect'

(You see, I'm helping herve out with his English comprehension)

shafique

Now - whether school should allow religious freedom in allowing children to pray on Fridays or completely ban any religious activity during school time is another matter. To give Muslims this facility is a positive sign in my eyes - but I understand the opposing argument that others hold. On this, ...

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Worrying signs of intolerance at a recent conference. :shock: Fortunately in the Middle East this is not a normal occurence - women are generally allowed to attend such events. Saudi Arabia is a repressive state when it comes to women's rights, but elsewhere in the region women are seen (veiled or u...

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I fail to see what this exclusion has to with Islam. herve - I think you meant to say 'kick' not 'quick' - better change it quick before spellcheckgirl makes an appearance. :D Thanks for sharing your views though herve - nice to see you are consistent in your hatred. Some other community excludes wo...

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For those who sat at the back of the classroom, here's an easy spot the difference: http://media.thestar.topscms.com/images/83/af/3a320c7c45a4b56ebde1d75caf67.jpeg http://english.themarker.com/polopoly_fs/1.372969.1310518205!/image/1792390197.jpg (Hint, one of them is of the conference that excludes...

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ALL major world religions subjugate women. Ultra Orthodox Jews barring women from a conference doesn't negate the fact that Islam subjugates women. You may present it as a case of the lesser of the two evils, but we're still talking evil here. :) I do believe I didn't mention Islam in my OP - but d...

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1. Friday prayers are held on Fridays just after mid-day, by definition. 2. No, boys aren't told to sit at the back during a part of the ballet class if they are unclean - but I wouldn't have a problem if the boys with groin strains sat out a part of the class. Would you? 3. I would laugh at any Bal...

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The lady is eloquent and expresses her views well. The philosophy of why men and women pray either separately or with the women behind the men has been discussed in the religion forum before. The reason is that the worship of God in the formal setting is meant to be a meditative and focussed act of ...

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kanelli - you're right - I do have a biased perspective because I am Muslim and attend Friday prayers each week. I've also had many Muslim gatherings in school halls over the years - and pretty much all of them included collective prayers. I also don't see the issue of men sitting separately from wo...

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Yes, I agree the view I've expressed about women being more distracting than men can be viewed as se.xist. However the point is that the separation is not due to men considering women inferior (as the Canadian lady said) - whether we agree on the reasoning is a separate matter, but one that shouldn'...

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I still can't see how allowing Muslim pupils to worship at Friday lunchtime is impinging on any student's right of freedom from religion? Where is the harm, I ask again? If you hate ballet, you don't go to the ballet classes. If you hate Islam, don't go to the hall on Friday lunchtimes. It is rather...

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It's a matter of perspective I guess:

"You men can't be trusted, so you must sit separately - let the women ogle you, but not the other way round!"

Cheers,
Shafique

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If boys and girls had their own sides of the room they'd be prostrating in front of those of their own gender, so I don't see why this isn't done and why women are placed behind men with a physical barrier between. Actually, this is usual in some mosques where the separation runs down the middle of...

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Except the women can't ogle because there is a physical barrier between? Claiming that men are weak are unable to control themselves give a nice excuse for poor behaviour that can then be blamed on the women for "provoking" them. The guys have it good! Well, at least the reason (weak or s...

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Still waiting to hear what the harm is. The only ones I see complaining are those who wish to restrict a child's right to spend Friday lunchtime in prayer, if they choose. Are children praying to God really that offensive that you want to ban it, even though they aren't imposing this worship on othe...

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It was a simple question: Are children praying to God really that offensive that you want to ban it, even though they aren't imposing this worship on others? Hmm. Applies to Canadian taxpayers and posters on DF. I see no problems with allowing children to pray during Friday lunchtime - and I'm still...

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I only asked what the harm was.. it wasn't really a difficult question to grasp. I happen to agree with separation of state and religion, and that religious freedom should be a universal human right. I am failing to see how allowing Muslim kids to pray during Friday lunchtime violates this separatio...

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I thought I'd made up the term 'balletophobia'. Alas, that was not the case...as the term has been used before.. but here it is - a moving tract on why we should not fear ballet! Some think it un-American, he says. Pah! I say. We shouldn't be afraid of tutus. :D Balletophobia By Alexandra Tomalonis ...

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Given this is the 'Politics Talk' forum.why should this have anything to do with religion (my posts about the Israeli Military Occupation aren't about religion, for example). Here, I guess, I'm making the connection between this irrational fear of ballet (which may or may not be taught in school hal...

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If I missed the answer to my question 'what is the harm' - please let me know. I didn't think I was THAT thick.

Yes, of course, the children can pray at the their desks etc if they didn't have this option - that's not in dispute.

Cheers,
Shafique

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When did I say 'anyone complaining' is Islamophobic? Some, like herve, obviously are - others seem to have a belief that Muslim children worshipping at Friday lunchtimes is somehow violating the separation of Church and State. The loons are easily laughed away - no need to pursue their rants. Howeve...

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Sorry for being slow. But what was the harm again from schoolchildren praying on Friday lunchtime? Praying after school hours is what they do every day anyway - Friday prayers take place at Friday lunchtimes. We can debate what the benefits of praying and the attendance of Friday prayers. But surely...

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Who is talking about "harm"?? No one is saying that there is any harm in the students praying, Thanks for the clarification. the argument is that there is a separation of church and state. Ok. I understand that you are therefore arguing that a school allowing children to pray in a school ...

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Bora, you are the one that asked what ballet has to do with religion - don't get in a huff because you got your forums mixed up. I just pointed out that when I post on subjects not related to Islam (eg Israeli Occupation of Palestine), I do it in the Politics section. As for whether a school providi...

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This seems like an encouraging, positive sign - Israelis and Palestinians planning to march tomorrow in support of an independent Palestinian state. I hope they get the turnout they expect. Israelis and Arabs to march in Jerusalem in support of Palestinian independence Organizers say thousands expec...

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